Windows 8 Bootloader

slopechz

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My apologies if this as been asked already. I'm surprised there isn't more information on this on Google. I am dual booting Windows 7 and Windows 8 on their own partitions. I would like to add Ubuntu on a third partition. Three questions:

My understanding is that Grub will not pick up Windows 8 and Windows 7, only Windows 8. Is this correct?

If I select Windows 8 in Grub, will it give me the Windows 8 bootloader which includes Windows 7; and

Is there anyway to install Ubuntu into the Windows 8 bootloader?

I never had luck with Easybcd, but that might be an option, but would prefer not to. Also, I don't care for any kind of VM setup. Any and all info would be appreciated. Thanks guys!
 

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    Windows 8, 7 & Xubuntu 13.10
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    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell 9000
I haven't played with *nix in a long time but this will help you add a *nix OS to the Windows 8 boot loader and do all sorts of other wonderful things without having to resort to getting all command happy:

Download EasyBCD 2.1.2 - NeoSmart Technologies
 

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I triple booted XP, Win 7 and Ubuntu using Grub. Every time I tried EasyBCD, thing would never work. I hear there is a beta for Win 8 but I have my doubts it will work as this software is wildly unreliable.
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 8, 7 & Xubuntu 13.10
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    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell 9000
I triple booted XP, Win 7 and Ubuntu using Grub. Every time I tried EasyBCD, thing would never work. I hear there is a beta for Win 8 but I have my doubts it will work as this software is wildly unreliable.

I've used it well on multiple machines from within and for Windows 8. I honestly have never seen anyone label it as unreliable before, even considering the countless scenarios I've seen it applied to.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    8250 x86 + 7 SP1 x86 + Ubuntu 12.04 LTS x86
    CPU
    P4 3.4 GHz HT
    Motherboard
    MSI-7211
    Memory
    OCZ 2 GB DDR @ 400 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    HIS AGP HD 3850 Turbo Ice-Q
    Sound Card
    MOTU Traveler firewire interface
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer x223w
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    WD Caviar Black 1 TB Sata II, WD 400 GB Sata I, WD 120 GB Sata I
    PSU
    300W generic
    Case
    Cybertron
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keyboard 200, Dell RT7D20
    Mouse
    Logitech M510
    Internet Speed
    2 MByte/sec Down, 250 KByte/sec Up
I triple booted XP, Win 7 and Ubuntu using Grub. Every time I tried EasyBCD, thing would never work. I hear there is a beta for Win 8 but I have my doubts it will work as this software is wildly unreliable.

I've used it well on multiple machines from within and for Windows 8. I honestly have never seen anyone label it as unreliable before, even considering the countless scenarios I've seen it applied to.
What advise can you give me to make the scenario I propose work? It has been two years since I last tried EasyBCD.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8, 7 & Xubuntu 13.10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell 9000
I haven't played with *nix in a long time but this will help you add a *nix OS to the Windows 8 boot loader and do all sorts of other wonderful things without having to resort to getting all command happy:

Download EasyBCD 2.1.2 - NeoSmart Technologies
Thanks for that. They go into a dual boot option, but not a triple boot option. I guess my question is would EasyBCD would be installed in Windows 8? When installing Ubuntu, what do I do with Grub ?

I have never had luck with this software - sorry if my questions are on the simple side.
 

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    Dell 9000
Hello

I didn't tried it in Windows 8 but on Ubuntu website you can download the installer of ubuntu from within windows.

Download | Ubuntu

This way it uses the windows bootloader instead of grub. Ubuntu is added in the windows software list "add remove programs" in control panel and can be uninstalled from within windows.


Cheers
Hopachi
 

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    Windows Defender
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    That's basically it.
Hello

I didn't tried it in Windows 8 but on Ubuntu website you can download the installer of ubuntu from within windows.

Download | Ubuntu

This way it uses the windows bootloader instead of grub. Ubuntu is added in the windows software list "add remove programs" in control panel and can be uninstalled from within windows.


Cheers
Hopachi
Yup, that is one way when it works, lol. Seriously some have problems with WUBI (like me).
 

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    PC/Desktop
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    Dell 9000
slopechz,

You're right.
It worked until I had to reboot. Then it hangs (permanently) at copying files. Not good. We'll see if they fix it in later versions but for now, I'm not really sure what will work better than easybcd.

Thanks
Hopachi
 

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  • OS
    Windows 10 x64
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    Laptop
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    HP Envy DV6 7250
    CPU
    Intel i7-3630QM
    Motherboard
    HP, Intel HM77 Express Chipset
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD4000 + Nvidia Geforce 630M
    Sound Card
    IDT HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6' built-in + Samsung S22D300 + 17.3' LG Phillips
    Screen Resolution
    multiple resolutions
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 250GB + Hitachi HDD 750GB
    PSU
    120W adapter
    Case
    small
    Cooling
    laptop cooling pad
    Keyboard
    Backlit built-in + big one in USB
    Mouse
    SteelSeries Sensei
    Internet Speed
    slow and steady
    Browser
    Chromium, Pale Moon, Firefox Developer Edition
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    That's basically it.
It work on me, Triple Boot (Windows 7, Windows 8, Ubuntu 10.10).:roflmao:
 

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It work on me, Triple Boot (Windows 7, Windows 8, Ubuntu 10.10).:roflmao:
Well, I need to give credit to all of you. It does work, although I get the Windows 8 bootloader. The first time I have been able to get EasyBCD to work flawlessly. Thanks!
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8, 7 & Xubuntu 13.10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell 9000
The problem is that the system reboots for win 7 and Ubuntu. Kinda annoying. Oh well.
 

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    Windows 8, 7 & Xubuntu 13.10
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    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell 9000
That's a windows 8 "feature" - the reboot for other OSs. I have one 32-bit Windows 8 that loads from the Windows 7 (64-bit) Bootloader, without the reboots. I have another 64-bit Windows 8 installation on the same machine, which loads from the Windows 8 bootloader, with subsequent boots via the Windows 8 bootup screen and then reboots to the next OS e.g. for Windows 7 as you describe.

In the past, the Ubuntu Grub bootloader chainloaded Windows 7 gracefully, unless you also had XP also booting and had to reload that due to some problem - that then screwed everything up until you next repair-installed Windows 7, and then fixed Grub by booting from an Ubuntu install disk and reinstalled Grub to the Linux partition, rewriting the mbr, I think.
 

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    HP COMPAQ Presario CQ57
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    AMD E- 300 APU with Radion HD Graphics 1.30GHz
    Motherboard
    inbuilt
    Memory
    4GB
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    ATI
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    High Definition Audio on-board
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    notebook
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    no Start menu modifications
    Upgraded with no issues to 8.0 and to 8.1
I think that is a major flaw with Windows 8. Hopefully they rethink that issue and change it for the final release.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8, 7 & Xubuntu 13.10
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    PC/Desktop
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    Dell 9000
By the way,[FONT=arial, sans-serif] i[/FONT]f I want to remove Windows 8, what is the best way to go about it? I understand how to do it if it was installed in Windows 7. Did I make a mistake by installing EasyBCD in Window 8? I was under the impression it had to be installed in Windows 8 for the bootloader to show all three operating systems.

Thanks guys.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8, 7 & Xubuntu 13.10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell 9000
I suppose you can use EasyBCD to restore the Win7 bootloader in both Win8 and Win7 as it would give the same effect. It simply overwrites the existing bootloader with the Windows 7 one. Upon booting you will have the old bootloader and inside Win7 you can delete the Win8 partition to get rid of the OS.

You can always try to use Visual BCD Editor if EasyBCD doesn't solve your problems.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel
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