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Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 ISO - Download or Create


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Borgus,

Sorry, but no.

Since you upgraded with the free Windows 8.1 update from the Store in Window 8, you would have to reinstall Windows 8, then update to 8.1 whenever you wanted to do a clean install.
So, if I correctly understand you, there is no way to obtain an 8.1 ISO that can be installed over 8.0 (which I can restore).
Or, better still, be installed over 8.1 PV. The only alternative is to upgrade from 8.0 to 8.1 via the STORE? Best
If you purchase Windows 8.1 separately through the Windows 8.1 Upgrade Assistant, then you could get a Windows 8.1 ISO file since this would be a full retail copy of Windows 8.1. Of course, if you purchased a retail box of Windows 8.1, then you could also create an ISO from the DVD as well.

When you update to Windows 8.1 via the Store, this is only and update from your Windows 8, so it's still using your Windows 8 product key. That's why you would have reinstall Windows 8 and update to 8.1 again anytime you wanted to clean install. Of course, you could just create a system image after updating to 8.1, and use it whenever you wanted to restore an image instead of starting all over.
 

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#42
If you purchase Windows 8.1 separately through the Windows 8.1 Upgrade Assistant, then you could get a Windows 8.1 ISO file since this would be a full retail copy of Windows 8.1. Of course, if you purchased a retail box of Windows 8.1, then you could also create an ISO from the DVD as well.

When you update to Windows 8.1 via the Store, this is only and update from your Windows 8, so it's still using your Windows 8 product key. That's why you would have reinstall Windows 8 and update to 8.1 again anytime you wanted to clean install. Of course, you could just create a system image after updating to 8.1, and use it whenever you wanted to restore an image instead of starting all over.
But of course. What I want to do is a 8.1PV overinstall, using the Win 8 key. And apparently that's not possible - with the only alternative to real-time (store) upgrade to 8.1RTM from 8.0 and REINSTALL all apps. Unless one wants to brave the torrents.
What a pain in the a--.
 

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Not sure what you mean by leaked key.

You can use the default key to install from the iso, then use your purchased 8.0 key to activate.

I don't think you can upgrade the 8.1 preview unless you have an 8.1 key.
 

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Not sure what you mean by leaked key.

You can use the default key to install from the iso, then use your purchased 8.0 key to activate.
The key that have been around the internet since like august.
So you can use the default key and activate using Windows 8 key?
 

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I used the store to upgrade to Windows 8.1 Pro with WMC, and apart from replacing my local account with my Microsoft account - I guess that was my fault, it went OK generally.

I wanted to get the ISO in case I need to reinstall cleanly, so I followed the Tutorial steps to download WindowsSetupBox.exe.

I already have Windows8-Setup.exe from last year when I upgraded to Windows 8, from the installed OS on the machine I had bought in August 2012.

When I ran WindowsSetupBox.exe, it would not accept the Windows 8 product key I received from the email in October 2012, when I purchased the upgrade via Microsoft.

Unsurprisingly it also did not accept the WMC upgrade key.

It did however like the generic key xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-PDG4W that Belarc Advisor reports for Microsoft Internet Explorer, saying "Your product key is fine. Press next when you're ready"

But on the next screen I get Windows 8.1 setup, and also Windows 8 setup when I tried it telling me "Windows 8.1 isn't available for download. Sorry, Windows 8.1 isn't available for online purchase in the country/region you're in."

Screenshot (73).png

I've seen recommendations to run setup for 8.0 in compatibility mode for Windows XP SP3, which does not work with 8.1 setup. Any ideas?
 

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Hello fafhrd,

Nar, it's not surprising. :)

warning   Warning
You will only be able to enter a Windows 8 or Windows 8.1 product key.

A Windows 8 product key will only get you a Windows 8 ISO file.

A Windows 8.1 product key will only get you a Windows 8.1 ISO file.

You will not be able to enter a Window Media Center Pack or Windows 8 Pro Pack product key. These are considered to be an upgrade key and can't be used to install Windows 8/8.1 with. You could use Add Features to add the Window Media Center Pack or Windows 8 Pro Pack again after Windows 8/8.1 is finished installing.

 

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Not sure what you mean by leaked key.

You can use the default key to install from the iso, then use your purchased 8.0 key to activate.

I don't think you can upgrade the 8.1 preview unless you have an 8.1 key.
Apologies that I'm probably not answering the question (certainly not the part about ISOs) ... but in case it helps anyone, I have done the following:

  • clean installed the 8.1 Preview using the 8.1 Preview ISO and the default Preview product key
  • upgraded in the Windows Store to 8.1 Final
  • Windows boots up with no problem and takes me through the rest of setup
  • input my 8.0 Product Key and activated 8.1 successfully.

The 8.0 Product Key was a Windows 8 Pro Upgrade key that had previously been used on the same machine before I wiped it with the Preview.

So you can upgrade the 8.1 Preview using an 8.0 key - I've done it!
 

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Thanks for clearing that up. I wasn't sure about the situation PREVIEW>GA.
Works just the same, then.
 

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Not sure what you mean by leaked key.

You can use the default key to install from the iso, then use your purchased 8.0 key to activate.

I don't think you can upgrade the 8.1 preview unless you have an 8.1 key.
Apologies that I'm probably not answering the question (certainly not the part about ISOs) ... but in case it helps anyone, I have done the following:

  • clean installed the 8.1 Preview using the 8.1 Preview ISO and the default Preview product key
  • upgraded in the Windows Store to 8.1 Final
  • Windows boots up with no problem and takes me through the rest of setup
  • input my 8.0 Product Key and activated 8.1 successfully.

The 8.0 Product Key was a Windows 8 Pro Upgrade key that had previously been used on the same machine before I wiped it with the Preview.

So you can upgrade the 8.1 Preview using an 8.0 key - I've done it!
Thank you David.

Was this on an OEM PC that came with Windows 8 Pro preinstalled?
 

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Hi Shawn,

The PC was originally Windows 7, not OEM Windows 8. I originally upgraded it to 8 Pro when the cheap Windows 8 Pro Upgrade offers were around last year.

As I hadn't anything important on the PC, I wiped it with a clean install of 8.1 Preview, then upgraded to 8.1 final as above, using the Windows Store.

I think one difference to what I've read about the upgrade from 8.0 is that I *had* to have a Microsoft Account to start the download; maybe it's a different Store in 8.1 Preview.

Also, I had this message which I guess is specific to the Preview
Preview_Warning_Screenshot.png

When I ran the 8.1 Final install, it took me through the Setup steps (agree to licence terms, pick a colour scheme etc.) and had an "It's time to enter your product key" step during that phase.

However the Product Key message did have a "Skip" option, and I was able to enter the Product Key later, once Windows 8.1 was running (although it did require internet access). The product key I used was the same Windows 8.0 Pro Upgrade key which I'd used to upgrade the PC to Windows 8.

Does that help?
 

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Since my laptop has Windows 7 originally installed, which I upgraded to Windows 8 Pro via the discount upgrade program a year ago, which in turn I upgraded 2 weeks ago to Windows 8.1 Pro via the Windows Store, can I use this method to download either a full or upgrade version of Windows 8.1 Pro such that I can use it for a repair install or a system refresh?

Remember that I only have a Windows 8 activation key, not Windows 8.1 (since I directly upgrade via the Store). ;)
 

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Having upgraded an 8 Pro WMC upgrade to 8.1 Pro WMC via the Windows store Update, I had no way to download an ISO image for 8.1, without falling into numerous dead ends.

Eventually I had to resort to using a Windows 7 installation, and run the Windows 8 pro setup on that to "prime" the C:\Users\Username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\WebSetup\ folder so that the Windows 8 key I had would be accepted by the Windows 8.1 setup as a valid key to start the download.

I could then follow through to create a Windows 8.1 installation .ISO file. At last.

That was 64-bit.
 

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Certain files have become corrupted on my computer and windows programs like windows update cannot connect to the internet. Therefore the windows setup won't download on my computer. I tried to download the windows 8 setup on another laptop and save it to a usb drive, only to realize after the fact that the other computer was 64 bit and mine is 32 bit. I do not have access to another 32 bit computer. Is there any other way I can download the windows setup?
 

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Certain files have become corrupted on my computer and windows programs like windows update cannot connect to the internet. Therefore the windows setup won't download on my computer. I tried to download the windows 8 setup on another laptop and save it to a usb drive, only to realize after the fact that the other computer was 64 bit and mine is 32 bit. I do not have access to another 32 bit computer. Is there any other way I can download the windows setup?
NO, but you can order back up DVD's, link in your email.

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Certain files have become corrupted on my computer and windows programs like windows update cannot connect to the internet. Therefore the windows setup won't download on my computer. I tried to download the windows 8 setup on another laptop and save it to a usb drive, only to realize after the fact that the other computer was 64 bit and mine is 32 bit. I do not have access to another 32 bit computer. Is there any other way I can download the windows setup?
No guarantees that this will work... but if you have space on your disk and enough RAM on your working machine, you could try downloading the Evaluation version of 64-bit Windows 8.1 Enterprise, and run it in a Virtual Machine (eg. using VirtualBox or one of the other free VMs). Then use the Windows 8 "download using a product key" link within Windows 8.1 Enterprise.

You need the right hardware (especially processor) though - my old laptop lacks a crucial feature to run 64-bit Windows in a VM, so I couldn't do it from that machine.
 

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