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Windows 8 Actually Sucks.

Graav xD

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Hello,

I don't know why it's taken me so long to realise this, but windows 8 is rubbish. I bought this laptop with windows 8 already installed and so far pretty much everything I have wanted to has not worked efficiently like it would have in windows 7 or even XP. There aren't even any solutions to problems I have been experiencing, even after many months posting on various forums. The fault is not of the laptop itself (even so, it's too late to return it now). The laptop is good, its just this OS. So basically I need a way to revert back to windows 7 from this all mighty piece of rubbish. Is this possible? If it's not then that's bullshit.
 

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    Windows

pparks1

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Unfortunately, while we understand your frustration, posts like the above won't garner too much help from most people.

Based on your posts here, it seems most issues have been around networking?

Your downgrade rights will depend upon the OS installed. If you have Windows 8 PRO, then you have a downgrade path. If you are on standard Windows 8, you don't. You are expected to purchase another license.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/262181/analysts_windows_8_downgrade_rights_crucial_to_success.html
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self-Built in July 2009
    CPU
    Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
    Memory
    8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Acer x233H
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
    Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
    PSU
    Corsair 620HX modular
    Case
    Antec P182
    Cooling
    stock
    Keyboard
    ABS M1 Mechanical
    Mouse
    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    Internet Speed
    15/2 cable modem
    Other Info
    Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.

Graav xD

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Apologies for the anger, I've just been through a long string of failures trying to get things to work. I'm fairly certain I have windows 8 pro edition I know have 64. bit, is there any way of checking ?
 

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    Windows

pparks1

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Right click on Computer, properties. The Windows edition is listed right at the top. It will say "Windows 8" or "Windows 8 Pro".
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self-Built in July 2009
    CPU
    Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
    Memory
    8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Acer x233H
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
    Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
    PSU
    Corsair 620HX modular
    Case
    Antec P182
    Cooling
    stock
    Keyboard
    ABS M1 Mechanical
    Mouse
    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    Internet Speed
    15/2 cable modem
    Other Info
    Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.

XweAponX

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Do you have a Windows 7 install disk? Download Hiren's Boot CD from the link in my sig - Boot from it and go into Mini XP.

Use that to move your personal files elsewhere on the disk, then delete your Windows and Users folders and also your Program files folder - You don't have to wipe the whole drive, unless you want to, but if that is the case, move your files to a USB drive.

Then install Windows 7 - It's as simple as that, it should be, unless your Windows 8 is connected to your BIOS and you cant get into the BIOS from an F key - If that is the case, you will have to tell it to allow access from an F key. Some of the others in here are more familiar with how to do that, I'm sorry I don't know how - Yet.
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.

mick823

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It took me several months to work out the kinks in W8 to get it to where I wanted it which was a Windows7 type interface with start button and menu with the tiles never to be seen. Why don't you describe your problems here and see if the people here can work you through the issues. Once it is set up right it does have some advantages over Windows 7.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 Pro and Windows 8.1 Pro 32 bit and 64 bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo and Dell
    CPU
    Intel i3

SIW2

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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin
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Graav xD

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Okay, for me the problems with windows 8 aren't the aesthetics or the layout. To be honest even though it's not favourable I've got used to the start menu and other changes in windows 8. The main problem I face with this OS is the fact I can no longer successfully share internet from my 3G dongle to play Xbox live, like I was able to with windows 7.
 

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    Windows

pparks1

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^ Yeah, you have stumbled onto a very specific problem that other people won't ever see.

Is there not a router or device that you could utilize to share out this connection rather than having to rely on ICS?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self-Built in July 2009
    CPU
    Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
    Memory
    8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Acer x233H
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
    Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
    PSU
    Corsair 620HX modular
    Case
    Antec P182
    Cooling
    stock
    Keyboard
    ABS M1 Mechanical
    Mouse
    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
    Internet Speed
    15/2 cable modem
    Other Info
    Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.

amoled

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IMO your technology limitations highlight the root of your frustration.
There are many things that can be done to CUSTOMIZE and CONFIGURE your OS to fit YOUR PERSONAL needs.
Google is a great friend if you know what you are looking for.
 

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  • OS
    W8 Pro 9200
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    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Y460
    CPU
    Intel core i3 M350 2.27Ghz
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender

XweAponX

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So I guess you need Internet Connection Sharing? That is not in Windows 8? Yes it is - Have you tried turning on the service?

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  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.

Coke Robot

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Probably would have been better to start with that you can't do internet sharing with your Xbox with your 3G adapter.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS
    CPU
    AMD FX 8320
    Motherboard
    Crosshair V Formula-Z
    Memory
    16 gig DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS R9 270
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Seagate Barracuda (starting to hate Seagate)
    x2 3 TB Toshibas
    Windows 8.1 is installed on a SanDisk Ultra Plus 256 GB
    PSU
    OCZ 500 watt
    Case
    A current work in progres as I'll be building the physical case myself. It shall be fantastic.
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    Arctic Cooler with 3 heatpipes
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    Logitech K750 wireless solar powered keyboard
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    Microsoft Touch Mouse
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    Internet Explorer 11
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    Windows Defender, but I might go back on KIS 2014
A word of apology to the OP, first of all. But the original post is the living embodiment of why I almost had a mental breakdown working in IT support. People would call come to me all mad with a problem. Then they made me play scavenger hunt to figure out what their symptoms are. No, "it doesn't work" won't cut it. Can you imagine calling up your doctor and say "doc, there's something wrong with me, fix it. No, I will never ever tell you what my symptoms are. Start asking questions and I'll give you a yes or no answer."

Anyway, the solution to the OP's problem is virtual router plus. It's free and very self explanatory. Please post further questions here and I will be glad to answer them.
 

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    windows 8

XweAponX

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That looks good, thanx Good I - That might help me with my problems which are similar to the OPs. I run a Plex server which keeps getting booted offline.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.

mick823

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So I guess you need Internet Connection Sharing? That is not in Windows 8? Yes it is - Have you tried turning on the service?

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I am absolutely unable to share anything (Folders, files, printers) from Windows 7 TO Windows 8 with the "Computer Browser" service running. I don't recall if it is set to manual or automatic by default but it must be diasbled to share with a W7 computer. It is a shot in the dark but what the hey. Make sure the ICS service is running as suggested and disable the Computer Browser service and see if it works.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 7 Pro and Windows 8.1 Pro 32 bit and 64 bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo and Dell
    CPU
    Intel i3

Graav xD

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Okay, firstly thanks for the response from everybody.

Coke Robot: You can share a 3G dongle's internet to connect to Xbox live, as many people have been able to do so, and i have also when I had windows 7 and xp.

pparks1: I do know of some other ways to share the connection either virtual router plus or purchasing a router. I have considered purchasing a router, but I would first need to find the correct router which would be able to cater to my needs. I have also tried using virtual router plus, which can be used to share my dongles internet to wirelessly connect my Xbox up. What annoys me is that you could do this on windows 7 without using a program.

However,

goodintentions: I have tried using virtual router plus, and at first it seemed great and was working perfectly. But then i discovered i would have to purchase an additional version of virtual router to be able to share my dongles internet. If it was free it would be fine, but i don't want to purchase something that may not work correctly.

So does anyone have any other suggestions? or could anyone point me into the right direction to purchasing the correct router required for my needs ?
 

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    Windows

XweAponX

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Linksys/Cisco or Dlink - You have more control over how to set IP addresses - Let me take a guess here in that you have a netgear router? toss it in the trash and get a real router.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.

XweAponX

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How about "Connectify Pro" - Will that work?
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.

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