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Windows 8 (8400) fonts


Hopachi

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#2
Welcome to the forum.
What font do you have in mind?

All fonts are in the Windows\Fonts folder. Try Win8 out or open the iso with 7-Zip, go to sources -> install.wim -> browse to -> Windows -> Fonts

And that's it
 

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Dinora

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Thank you, Hopachi, I actually haven't yet managed to install the latest release and was wondering whether one can download the fonts separately somehow?
 

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FuturDreamz

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What's so important about the fonts?
 

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tseven

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I wish they had better font management and some of the more famous fonts. I wish they would also make arial look better or get another font that has better style choices.
 

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I wish they hadn't changed the way it was done in XP.

On my PC, I can't select a font from the Fonts folder to add it to a file (e.g. include it in a mkv file using "mkvmerge GUI").
If I browse to the Fonts Folder, from inside another program, no files appear.

I have to go to the Fonts folder and then copy the font I want to somewhere else, before I can use it.
I've had to make another folder and I've copied all of my Fonts to it.
 

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tseven

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I stopped using XP since 7 arrived so I don't remember how it was done in XP but I know font management hasn't gotten better. For example a font from the same family with a different style/weight in a separate category.(Even though in the folder they all appear under the same font when you actually use it it's not organized as the same font and it's just a mess. Sometimes it's the same font and it appears in a separate category. This is highly annoying. Also with windows they don't even try to cater to a design or media audience by adding in the famous design fonts of history.
 

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Fonts do need a rethought... I can't throw away my Mac until Windows supports the REAL Zapfino font.
 

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Dinora

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What's so important about the fonts?
Several of them have bugs, which they only correct in new OS versions and don't upgrade via WIndows Update.

That is why it is relevant to me to somehow download the latest version of the untouched font pack that comes with Windows 8 but I don't know where to download it.
 

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I wish they hadn't changed the way it was done in XP.

On my PC, I can't select a font from the Fonts folder to add it to a file (e.g. include it in a mkv file using "mkvmerge GUI").
If I browse to the Fonts Folder, from inside another program, no files appear.

I have to go to the Fonts folder and then copy the font I want to somewhere else, before I can use it.
I've had to make another folder and I've copied all of my Fonts to it.
You could use a different file manager instead of Explorer - I use 7-zip -the 7z file manager does not do silly things with system folders - as well as opening archives and image files without mounting them for easy extraction of files.

Dinora, fonts that appear with Windows versions are specifically mentioned in the EULA - you need to implicitly install Windows 8 -and thus agree to the EULA - before you can legally use them.

2. ADDITIONAL LICENSING REQUIREMENTS AND/OR USE RIGHTS.
a. Font Components. While the software is running, you may use its fonts to display and print content. You may only
· embed fonts in content as permitted by the embedding restrictions in the fonts; and
· temporarily download them to a printer or other output device to print content.
 

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FuturDreamz

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What's so important about the fonts?
Several of them have bugs, which they only correct in new OS versions and don't upgrade via WIndows Update.

That is why it is relevant to me to somehow download the latest version of the untouched font pack that comes with Windows 8 but I don't know where to download it.
I'm not positive, but it's possible the bugs are in the way the OS manages the fonts and not the fonts themselves...
 

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besb

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Ha, I did a quick search of my archived files and found MyFonts first installed on win95 in 1998.
It still works :eek:: shows both installed fonts and any number of folders containing custom fonts all with previews of any text you cared to enter. It was great for finding a specific style when trying to match a company's logo / headed paper when moving them to computer based systems.
 

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I read more posts and noticed the post by FutureDreamz
Fonts do need a rethought... I can't throw away my Mac until Windows supports the REAL Zapfino font.
I thought I recognized the name and here is an image showing it in use within sysmetrix on my desktop
Image2.png
However I do not know what you mean by the REAL zapfino font, if my memory serves me correctly (probably not) there were some 6-8 fonts in the family issued by linotype including a couple of windings type.
The one illustrated is linotype zapfino three. I also have lz2 in the archive but not the "wingding" types
 

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FuturDreamz

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I read more posts and noticed the post by FutureDreamz
Fonts do need a rethought... I can't throw away my Mac until Windows supports the REAL Zapfino font.
I thought I recognized the name and here is an image showing it in use within sysmetrix on my desktop
View attachment 7177
However I do not know what you mean by the REAL zapfino font, if my memory serves me correctly (probably not) there were some 6-8 fonts in the family issued by linotype including a couple of windings type.
The one illustrated is linotype zapfino three. I also have lz2 in the archive but not the "wingding" types
Zapfino (at least on Mac) is a "smart font", with 1,400 glyphs, enough that different variations can be used depending on the letters next to them. It also allows for dedicated glyphs for common words, such as The, 1rst, Mc (as in Mc'Allister), and the name of the font itself.
Exhibit A, Windows OpenType:

Exhibit B, Mac True Type:


You are simply not getting the full zapfino experience.
 

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tseven

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Also you get zapfino with mac I believe with the system whereas I don't think that is the same with windows. I also do not appreciate Arial which has not seen any improvements. Even though helvetica may be just as boring but at least helvetica neue has some more modern slimmer styles. Arial I think has light and it doesn't even look good. You'd think they would focus a little more in this area. Also their font management should be reworked. It's annoying to use.
 

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Dinora

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I've tried opening the install.wim file, but even though the archive is not corrupt, the file won't open in neither 7Zip, PeaZip nor GImageX. Does anybody know where might the problem be?
 

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Hopachi

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I've tried opening the install.wim file, but even though the archive is not corrupt, the file won't open in neither 7Zip, PeaZip nor GImageX. Does anybody know where might the problem be?
Are there any errors/warnings?

Use the latest 7-Zip.
I use 7.25 alpha and works. (If that doesn't work get 7.28 experimental just to try).

You need to open the ISO and then go to install.wim and right click "open inside".
Then open one of the folders (1 , 2 , 3 or 4) and see the normal system folder structure.
 

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