Will Windows 10 make it

In the desktop world, Microsoft's biggest competitor is always itself. Or rather, in this case, Microsoft circa 2009, which is when Windows 7 was launched. According to figures from Netmarketshare, Windows 7 still accounts for 56 percent of the desktop market. Windows XP (launched back in 2001) is on 18 percent, while Windows 8 and 8.1 combined come in at about 15 percent, which shows just how well Windows 8 has performed.

Windows 10: Can Microsoft get it right this time? | ZDNet

 

[brotherboard]

Hi there

IT WILL make it so long as people who want to use their desktop / laptop systems in a professional workplace as a "Classic Computer" can turn off / hide all the tiles and other "metro" stuff.
Cheers
jimbo

Amen to that

 

[mcnulty]

I installed the latest build and had a look at the new Calendar and Calculator... Microsoft is still trying a touch-first, one size fits all approach with Windows 10. It's actually going to be much harder to get away from all the Metro crap this time around that it was on Windows 8.

 

[stringjunky]

Non-touchscreen people will go a long way to getting comfortable with the new user/OS interface if they learnt how to use a touchpad, which W8.1 (and likely W10) is very user-friendly towards and I find it quite intuitive once you know the gestures to perform for common actions. If your PC doesn't have a touchpad you can buy USB ones

Tutorial: Precision touchpad - Windows Help

This is a random Dell wireless one I found that can be added if you don't have precision-touchpad fitted device:

Dell Wireless USB Touchpad

 

[Clintlgm]

Hi there

IT WILL make it so long as people who want to use their desktop / laptop systems in a professional workplace as a "Classic Computer" can turn off / hide all the tiles and other "metro" stuff.

Metro apps which work as normal windowed applications are fine provided they can be launched from a classic type of start menu.

For touch / tablets/ convertibles W10 is beginning to shape up.

I know it's a WIP - but so far so good.

Cheers
jimbo

I'll give that an Amen too Jimbo

 

[whs]

And they are not doing a good job with the modern UI. I use High definition themes and many parts of the modern UI are not integrated with the high def themes. The end result is that you cannot work with those pages and have to always switch back to a normal theme. That is completely unacceptable and a showstopper for me.

Picture 1 shows my high def as it should be. Picture 2 shows e.g. the update page in high def where some of the hig def appears but the background is white. And since the writing in high def is white and the hyperlinks are yellow, you cannot really read anything.

 

[kiwig]

Non-touchscreen people will go a long way to getting comfortable with the new user/OS interface if they learnt how to use a touchpad, which W8.1 (and likely W10) is very user-friendly towards and I find it quite intuitive once you know the gestures to perform for common actions. If your PC doesn't have a touchpad you can buy USB ones

Tutorial: Precision touchpad - Windows Help

This is a random Dell wireless one I found that can be added if you don't have precision-touchpad fitted device:

Dell Wireless USB Touchpad

And what would you suggest for CAD work. Can you get a pen for detailed work???

 

[eatup]

I installed the latest build and had a look at the new Calendar and Calculator... Microsoft is still trying a touch-first, one size fits all approach with Windows 10. It's actually going to be much harder to get away from all the Metro crap this time around that it was on Windows 8.

Will stick to 8.1 as long as I can. But you know MS, soon as 7 expires, so will 8.1 effectively. Just look at Vista, soon as XP expired, it was effectively "dead" as in newer stuff like IE11 won't install on Vista, even though extended support continues and under the hood, there is little difference from 7...

 

[Atomic77]

In my experience with Microsoft all the versions of windows have made it. In fact even thought it maybe dead some companies are still using windows xp and ive kept vista for 6 years. my first computer I ever actually had bought myself had lasted me about 10 years.

 

[Cliff S]

Interesting find(notice the date):

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[Slartybart]

Interesting find(notice the date):

Yep, 9926 expires October 1, 2015

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I have the Insider Pro edition installed - clearly identified as Pro, but no expire date.

Looks like you have the TechNet Enterprise edition (clue: evaluation copy)

 

[CountMike]

Non-touchscreen people will go a long way to getting comfortable with the new user/OS interface if they learnt how to use a touchpad, which W8.1 (and likely W10) is very user-friendly towards and I find it quite intuitive once you know the gestures to perform for common actions. If your PC doesn't have a touchpad you can buy USB ones

Tutorial: Precision touchpad - Windows Help

This is a random Dell wireless one I found that can be added if you don't have precision-touchpad fitted device:

Dell Wireless USB Touchpad

Nice one, didn't know it existed at all. Can't find surface size, my guess is somewhere about 7 by 7", I could get used to that. Heck of cheaper and handier than touch monitor. Touch pads on laptops are much smaller.

 

[stringjunky]

Non-touchscreen people will go a long way to getting comfortable with the new user/OS interface if they learnt how to use a touchpad, which W8.1 (and likely W10) is very user-friendly towards and I find it quite intuitive once you know the gestures to perform for common actions. If your PC doesn't have a touchpad you can buy USB ones

Tutorial: Precision touchpad - Windows Help

This is a random Dell wireless one I found that can be added if you don't have precision-touchpad fitted device:

Dell Wireless USB Touchpad

Nice one, didn't know it existed at all. Can't find surface size, my guess is somewhere about 7 by 7", I could get used to that. Heck of cheaper and handier than touch monitor. Touch pads on laptops are much smaller.

Seeing this short video I want one! Yes it looks about 6-7inches square.

 

[dencal]

Non-touchscreen people will go a long way to getting comfortable with the new user/OS interface if they learnt how to use a touchpad, which W8.1 (and likely W10) is very user-friendly towards and I find it quite intuitive once you know the gestures to perform for common actions. If your PC doesn't have a touchpad you can buy USB ones

Tutorial: Precision touchpad - Windows Help

This is a random Dell wireless one I found that can be added if you don't have precision-touchpad fitted device:

Dell Wireless USB Touchpad

Nice one, didn't know it existed at all. Can't find surface size, my guess is somewhere about 7 by 7", I could get used to that. Heck of cheaper and handier than touch monitor. Touch pads on laptops are much smaller.

Seeing this short video I want one! Yes it looks about 6-7inches square.

Logitech also do a touchpad, have had one for a couple of years now and find it very useful on a desktop with both the mouse and touchpad operative at the same time.
Especially useful for flicking back through previous pages instantaneously.

As to whether W10 will be a success, IMO a resounding YES.

 

[stringjunky]

And what would you suggest for CAD work. Can you get a pen for detailed work???

I would think this one from Wacom and designed with CAD in mind...it's £600-700 though. This one has accuracy down to 2048 pressure-steps pen sensitivity so you can get pretty fine lines and alterations. Cheaper ones will probably be too coarse for you. Google ' intuos 4 xl cad youtube' for videos of it to get an idea of its capabilities. If you want to look at Wacom's other range just Google ' wacom intuos pro'

 

[jimbo45]

Interesting find(notice the date):

Yep, 9926 expires October 1, 2015

View attachment 57283​

I have the Insider Pro edition installed - clearly identified as Pro, but no expire date.

Looks like you have the TechNet Enterprise edition (clue: evaluation copy)

Hi there

I've got the enterprise edition --it shows ENTERPRISE edition clearly in the Winver command popup and an expiry date of OCT 1 2015. His doesn't say ENTERPRISE and it's Oct 02 expiry (Torrent / leaked build / insider build ??).

Posted cliff's and my expiry and windows versions


Cheers
jimbo

 

[kiwig]

.... If you want to look at Wacom's other range just Google ' wacom intuos pro'

Thanks,
I will have a good look at it.

 

[whs]

Interesting find(notice the date):

View attachment 57280

That's not nice. That is my birthday, LOL.

 

[KYHI]

windows 10 is going to be subscription based - the free - is a free trial of one year from the release date

 

[stringjunky]

windows 10 is going to be subscription based - the free - is a free trial of one year from the release date

It's free for the life of the device. The subscription part is with other utilities.

 

[Cliff S]

Mine is insider ISO.