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Will Windows 10 be forced even if I didn't reserve?

IllusionaryInno

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Pretty much the title. From what I've heard and read, Windows 10 just isn't for me. However I'm building a computer in September, which is going to be running Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit. However I'm concerned after hearing about one guy, who didn't even reserve Windows 10, having Windows 10 be downloaded by his OS against his permission.

Is there any way to just... prevent that from happening? Any updates I need to avoid? Is it as simple as just hiding KB3035583 when I check for updates after installing the April 2014 rollup after the initial round of Windows Updates?
 

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KYHI

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the only way I was able to prevent the forced upgrade was to
stop the GWX.exe service in task manager and rename the windows\system32\GWX folder and windows\syswow64\GWX folder
 

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  • OS
    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10
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    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8700
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    I7
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    24 GB

IllusionaryInno

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Wait, so your Windows tried to force download Windows 10 on your computer despite you not reserving it? O_O
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
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    Self-Built
    CPU
    i5 661 @ 3.33GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS P7P55D-E Deluxe
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    2x2 Corsair Vengence 1600MHz @ 1333MHz
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derekimo

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  • OS
    Win 10 Pro x64
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    Intel I5-2500K @3.3GHz
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    Asrock P67 Extreme4
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    SSD: Crucial M4-CT128M4SSD2 ATA Device/ FW 000F /
    GFX: AMD Radeon HD 6520G /
    OS: Windows 10 Pro x64

IllusionaryInno

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Wait, so your Windows tried to force download Windows 10 on your computer despite you not reserving it? O_O

I seriously doubt that.
Would hope so, it was just the way they said it, about how he was forced to do something to stop it.
:/

Still... I hope I don't have Windows 8.1 downloading Windows 10 on me if I download all the updates except the GWX one. That's not going to be fun considering Australian internet. :x
 

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    Windows 8.1 Pro
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    Self-Built
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    i5 661 @ 3.33GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS P7P55D-E Deluxe
    Memory
    2x2 Corsair Vengence 1600MHz @ 1333MHz
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    ASUS GTX 660 GDDR5 2GB Direct CU II OC
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    Corsair HX520
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derekimo

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It's not being forced on anyone. If you don't reserve it there is no reason it should even start to download.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Win 10 Pro x64
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    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Intel I5-2500K @3.3GHz
    Motherboard
    Asrock P67 Extreme4
    Memory
    16GB G.Skill Ripjaws X (4x4GB)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce 750 Ti SC 2GB
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    ASUS Xonar DG 5.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card
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    250GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD
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    SeaSonic X 650W 80 Plus Gold
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    Corsair Obsidian 750D
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    Corsair H60, Three 140mm case fans
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    Logitech Wireless Keyboard K520
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    Wave Broadband ~ 100 dn 5 up
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    CPU: AMD A6-3420M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics /
    RAM: Crucial 8Gb (2x4Gb) /
    SSD: Crucial M4-CT128M4SSD2 ATA Device/ FW 000F /
    GFX: AMD Radeon HD 6520G /
    OS: Windows 10 Pro x64

IllusionaryInno

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It's not being forced on anyone. If you don't reserve it there is no reason it should even start to download.
Oh good, that's reassuring! :D
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self-Built
    CPU
    i5 661 @ 3.33GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS P7P55D-E Deluxe
    Memory
    2x2 Corsair Vengence 1600MHz @ 1333MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GTX 660 GDDR5 2GB Direct CU II OC
    Screen Resolution
    1920 by 1080
    Hard Drives
    1 x 500GB Samsung Spinpoint
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    Corsair HX520
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    Google Chrome
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    Kaspersky Pure 3.0

KYHI

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Oh, yes it is being forced..

Deleted the windows-bt folder several times and it was still downloading..
had to disable the task and rename the folder to prevent the download..

The update my not be forced - but the download is..
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8700
    CPU
    I7
    Memory
    24 GB

IllusionaryInno

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Oh, yes it is being forced..

Deleted the windows-bt folder several times and it was still downloading..
had to disable the task and rename the folder to prevent the download..

The update my not be forced - but the download is..
:/ Wow. Given how it's a 3GB freaking download, I don't think I should have to put up with that crap. Wait... you installed the update that added the GWX task? Why don't you just... uninstall it?
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Self-Built
    CPU
    i5 661 @ 3.33GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS P7P55D-E Deluxe
    Memory
    2x2 Corsair Vengence 1600MHz @ 1333MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GTX 660 GDDR5 2GB Direct CU II OC
    Screen Resolution
    1920 by 1080
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    1 x 500GB Samsung Spinpoint
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    Corsair HX520
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    Google Chrome
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    Kaspersky Pure 3.0

Berton

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I've done a Desktop over Win7 w/SP1, a Notebook over Win8.1 and a Tablet over Win8.1, none had Win10 'forced' on them, had to start the ball myself. Worked out good, only needed a Bluetooth driver for the Notebook and Dell was prepared.
 

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derekimo

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Oh, yes it is being forced..

Deleted the windows-bt folder several times and it was still downloading..
had to disable the task and rename the folder to prevent the download..

The update my not be forced - but the download is..

There would need to be more than one unconfirmed incident to claim they are forcing anything.
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Win 10 Pro x64
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    PC/Desktop
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    Self Built
    CPU
    Intel I5-2500K @3.3GHz
    Motherboard
    Asrock P67 Extreme4
    Memory
    16GB G.Skill Ripjaws X (4x4GB)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce 750 Ti SC 2GB
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    ASUS Xonar DG 5.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card
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    auria eq2367
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    1920 x 1080
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    250GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD
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    SeaSonic X 650W 80 Plus Gold
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    Corsair Obsidian 750D
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    Corsair H60, Three 140mm case fans
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    Logitech Wireless Keyboard K520
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    Wave Broadband ~ 100 dn 5 up
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    CPU: AMD A6-3420M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics /
    RAM: Crucial 8Gb (2x4Gb) /
    SSD: Crucial M4-CT128M4SSD2 ATA Device/ FW 000F /
    GFX: AMD Radeon HD 6520G /
    OS: Windows 10 Pro x64

ianc01

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Ok I have an HP 15 laptop new out of the box with Win 8.1 installed. As soon as I run Windows Updates it tries to download Windows 10. Even after I unticked the Optional updates for Windows 10. Do I have to hobble GWX to stop it trying to download Win 10 - I'm only on standard adsl 6Mbps
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
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    Self Built
    CPU
    Intel i5-4440
    Motherboard
    Asus Z97
    Memory
    16Gb DDR3

Berton

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Ok I have an HP 15 laptop new out of the box with Win 8.1 installed. As soon as I run Windows Updates it tries to download Windows 10. Even after I unticked the Optional updates for Windows 10. Do I have to hobble GWX to stop it trying to download Win 10 - I'm only on standard adsl 6Mbps
Probably. The 6Mbps shouldn't be an issue, I have only a 1Mbps Wireless DSL, just takes longer. The bigger issue is whether you have a Metered service, may have to get your ISP to change that for a couple of days or at least until it installs. As far as I know the only way to get the Free Upgrade is while booted into Win7 w/SP1 or Win8.1 which means the download. With the Win10TP I was able to locate the install.esd file, create the .iso from that, burn to DVD then installed on a Notebook but I did it over a much earlier Build, don't know if that can be done with the Release version of Win10.
 

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KYHI

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There are three methods:

Windows Update - a lot of failures reported
or
Windows 10 Create Media Tool > Windows 10
or
Windows 10 ISO Download > Tech Bench
 

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  • OS
    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10
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    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8700
    CPU
    I7
    Memory
    24 GB

strollin

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Yes, I can confirm that I had Win 10 downloaded on one of my Win 8.1 machines without my consent (and I had deleted the GWX folder in Windows\System32 folder). However, install wasn't forced.
 

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