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Will Microsoft restore Start Menu to Windows 8?


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There is now speculation that the Start Menu will return:

Will Microsoft restore Start Menu to Windows 8?

With Sinofsky out, everything is now possible, Microsoft already step back on the fact that Directx 11.1 will not only run on Windows8 , but on 7 too , this is a major step back.


"Microsoft may have just stunned the PC community with their latest available update involving DX 11.1. In a very unprecedented move, Microsoft has released a beta platform update that includes some DX 11.1 benefits for Windows 7 users. This is very unlike Microsoft considering they have always tried to use DirectX as a tool to force gamers into upgrading to their latest OS."
Windows 7 Gets A DirectX 11.1 Facelift | VideoCardz.com


I like this part

"Sinofsky persuaded Ballmer to replace the Start Menu with a hybrid touch screen, plus keyboard and mouse interface. He had his detractors. But Sinofsky successfully argued that it was crucial for the company to orient Windows PC users toward the look and feel of the all-new Windows 8 Surface touch tablet and the latest Windows Phone 8 smartphone models.He might have won the internal debate. But convincing millions of home and workplace users of Windows that the switch was for their own good hasn't gone well."
 

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#2
I read this too, at first I thought.. sh1t I just paid £110 for windows 7+ but I do like some of the new features :). I'm sure updates will fix everything else... when we have finished beta testing for them -.-
 

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I read this too, at first I thought.. sh1t I just paid £110 for windows 7+ but I do like some of the new features :). I'm sure updates will fix everything else... when we have finished beta testing for them -.-
lol I tough it was an Alpha
 

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I read this too, at first I thought.. sh1t I just paid £110 for windows 7+ but I do like some of the new features :). I'm sure updates will fix everything else... when we have finished beta testing for them -.-
lol I tough it was an Alpha
You might not be far off lol, all we need now is for them to offer a metro download and a few updates for windows 7 and we will have all wasted our money.
 

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Yeah, people have told me to just get used to it too. They don't understand that it's not a matter of not understanding how to use it..but rather it's a matter of the wrong tool for the task. For example, you CAN pound a nail with a wrench, but a hammer is a better choice.
 

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You can hammer a nail into a piece of wood with a Nokia Lumia 920 as well....

I read an article that was posted around here in how to get Windows 8 to act more like 7. I read through it, and in the time it took me to read through it, I already had the default Libraries, Computer, Task Manager, Help and Support, and Calculator pinned to Start and already arranged the tiles neatly on an install of Windows 8 Pro I'm doing right now on a person's PC. In my hand to GOD opinion, it's just far easier to use the Start Screen than the menu. If you need functionality of the start menu on the Start Screen, it's just a simple right click and pin. Then it's up to you to arrange away. Don't like the apps? Simple right click and uninstall.
 

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QUOTE -

"Microsoft may have just stunned the PC community with their latest available update involving DX 11.1. In a very unprecedented move, Microsoft has released a beta platform update that includes some DX 11.1 benefits for Windows 7 users. This is very unlike Microsoft considering they have always tried to use DirectX as a tool to force gamers into upgrading to their latest OS."


Um...no.

Earlier versions were certainly backwards-compatible.

New releases would need the latest(?) DirectX, but games that required
the earlier versions would almost always be able to run.

I can remember several versions on my W95/98 and XP machines.

The current situation has only been the case since Vista, IIRC.
 

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I hope we get start menu back :D I find it more comfortable to use desktop environment. Metro (modern ui) makes me feel lost .
 

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At this point I doubt they can add the start menu back in this original form because the windows key(I think that's the name) opens up the start screen. They could implement the use of it back though but it would probably need to be renamed. The only real reason for me to use it is I need a menu that is visual that can be accessed by clicking and not hovering. Also it just allows certain things to have easier access. I don't even need the directory for programs but even a folder that quickly accessible for programs on the desktop would be nice.
 

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With Sinofsky gone it's an absolute certainty that the Start Menu is coming back. It's not just my opinion, check out today's Tom's Hardware.
What I would like to know is, are all the die hard supporters of W8 going to condem Microsoft when they do this?
 

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What tripe. The article is full of BS and speculation, none of it with a basis in reality.

No, Microsoft will NOT be bringing the start menu back. There are too many reasons for them not to do so. 1) a start menu doesn't work with a touch based interface. 2) A start menu destroys their entire branding with windows 8. 3) they can't do both because it will be even MORE confusing to people.

On top of that, the article makes assumptions that are incorrect. First, there was never any official stance that DirectX 11.1 wouldn't be available to Windows 7.

Second, the reason for DirectX 11.1 on 7 is to allow IE10 to function on Windows 7. It wasn't because anyone demanded it, it was because they needed it to deliver IE10.

Third, it's only a subset of DX 11.1, it doesn't include any features that depend on WDDM 1.2 (like stereoscopic rendering).

Finally, no. The start menu will not be coming back (at least not from Microsoft).
 

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What tripe. The article is full of BS and speculation, none of it with a basis in reality.

No, Microsoft will NOT be bringing the start menu back. There are too many reasons for them not to do so. 1) a start menu doesn't work with a touch based interface. 2) A start menu destroys their entire branding with windows 8. 3) they can't do both because it will be even MORE confusing to people.

On top of that, the article makes assumptions that are incorrect. First, there was never any official stance that DirectX 11.1 wouldn't be available to Windows 7.

Second, the reason for DirectX 11.1 on 7 is to allow IE10 to function on Windows 7. It wasn't because anyone demanded it, it was because they needed it to deliver IE10.

Third, it's only a subset of DX 11.1, it doesn't include any features that depend on WDDM 1.2 (like stereoscopic rendering).

Finally, no. The start menu will not be coming back (at least not from Microsoft).
At some time ago (not too long ago) Microsoft said "DirectX 11.1 will not coming to Windows 7".
So Microsoft did already said DX11.1 will not coming to W7, but it comes after Sinofsky's departure.

It's possible to Microsoft to bring back Start Menu, of course with some tweaks (Bigger buttons, Flat Interface) that suites Windows 8 Perfectly.
 

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What tripe. The article is full of BS and speculation, none of it with a basis in reality.

No, Microsoft will NOT be bringing the start menu back. There are too many reasons for them not to do so........

.........Finally, no. The start menu will not be coming back (at least not from Microsoft).
:thumbup:

They will not change direction in the middle of the stream. They are heading for touch UI popularized by others. When all software is written in the Modern interface, say goodbye to the desktop as well. There will be no need for a Win32 portal. Navigation will continue to be possible without touch screen with mouse, keyboard, and touch pad. Voice command may reach maturity very soon also.

Welcome to the new age of computing, ladies and gentlemen. :)
 

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No, Microsoft will NOT be bringing the start menu back. There are too many reasons for them not to do so. 1) a start menu doesn't work with a touch based interface.
Is that your real big problem ? good thing some have more open mind, you simply add a menu to disable or enable it. Oh boy will I get a Noble price for that ? When you want to work to find a solution, you can find them.

Mystere, I wonder sometime if you are not Sinofsky
 

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I hope we get start menu back :D I find it more comfortable to use desktop environment. Metro (modern ui) makes me feel lost .




If you want the Windows 7 Start menu back, then down load this tool, and have your Win7 installation disc handy, it simply install's the Win7 Explorer Start Menu, you also have the option, to switch between 7 & 8 Start Menu, enjoy.......:thumb:

Download Link: http://tihiy.net/files/ex7forW8_1.0.zip

Instructions: Windows 7 explorer for Windows 8 - MSFN Forum
 

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If this is the only thing holding people back from Windows 8....just use one of the many free alternatives.
 

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If this is the only thing holding people back from Windows 8....just use one of the many free alternatives.
It's annoying to have to download a third party software. I will prefer it's built in Windows so it can be update at the same time I update Windows. Third party applications are more prone to additional bugs. For now I'm using Classic start menu, not for the menu but for remove the hot spot. I don't need a new menu the start page do the job in my case. So I have to unnecessary mod my OS just to disable something I don't need.
 

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QUOTE -

"Microsoft may have just stunned the PC community with their latest available update involving DX 11.1. In a very unprecedented move, Microsoft has released a beta platform update that includes some DX 11.1 benefits for Windows 7 users. This is very unlike Microsoft considering they have always tried to use DirectX as a tool to force gamers into upgrading to their latest OS."


Um...no.

Earlier versions were certainly backwards-compatible.

New releases would need the latest(?) DirectX, but games that required
the earlier versions would almost always be able to run.

I can remember several versions on my W95/98 and XP machines.

The current situation has only been the case since Vista, IIRC.
You're right.

I think they needed a good reason to ditch XP and directx9 for good. This was one of them.
 

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from the article:
"Clearly, if the product isn't doing well, they could come up with a service pack that restores the Start Menu," Hilwa says.
At least I'm not the only one who thinks this.

Nice.
Either way: start (menu or screen) is start. You get used to it and then they decide to change it.

So now what? I'm now good with the start screen and they bring the start menu back????
It took me days to get the look and shortcuts right, no way! I'm formatting...

Ok ok, i'll use both, but that will be like a car with 2 steering wheels, crap.
car2.jpg
Start Screen (left) and Start Menu (right). Premium compatibility in US and UK at the same time.:)

What's next?
He he he.
 

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