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Watermark won't go away on Windows 8.1 upgrade


MrBill

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#1
I upgraded to Windows 8.1 from my OEM version of Windows 8 on a machine that's about 4 months old. I'm seeing a watermark showing the release version and complaining about my UEFI secureboot setup. Any ideas beyond locking my UEFI BIOS?

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I had the same watermark so I just enabled Secure Boot using the default keys option. Now, I'm normally not that lazy but I must say that I saw no actual difference in performance thereafter so I saw no need to pursue any further corrective action. From my experience, secure boot just blended into 8.1 and removed the watermark. No other side effects were observed.
 

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TonyB

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#4
I have same issue how do i remove it ? my stuff is setup with UEFI its a alienware
 

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Brink

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TonyB

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#6
mine says when i go to enable it it tells me something about my video card wired i have a pny geforce gtx 660TI i never had this issue with windows 8 not untell 8.1
 

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#7
mine says when i go to enable it it tells me something about my video card wired i have a pny geforce gtx 660TI i never had this issue with windows 8 not untell 8.1
In your case, you may have trouble enabling secure boot because it also requires the UEFI GOP protocol which (apparently) your video card does not support. You'll need to go back to pny support and see if they have a firmware update available. Good luck.
 

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robgraves

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#8
Ok, obviously you can get rid of this by enabling SecureBoot, I personally have no intentions of re-enabling SecureBoot as I dual boot with Linux. I just want the watermark to go away.
 

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theog

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pbm5362

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#10
I am trying to get rid of the watermark by enabling secure boot on my hp pavilion p6-2120 using the hp support link in the tutorial from brink. My computer originally came with windows 7. In the support link it shows a secure boot configuration option in the security menu in the setup utility. However, I do not have that option. Is there another way I can enable secure boot? I will look further in the tutorial but any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Update: After reading further in the HP support page I noticed this:

HP and Compaq Desktop PCs that were manufactured with Windows 7 or earlier do not have a BIOS version that allows the use of Secure Boot and one will not be made available for these computers.

Will I still be able to get rid of the watermark?
 
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TonyB

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#11
Thats what i want gone the watermark this is sick why they do this make a permanent watermark.
 

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Mystere

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#12
You should not see the watermark if your BIOS is not UEFI or cannot support SecureBoot.
 

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theog

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#13
Have a read of post 7
 

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pbm5362

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#14
I am in the process of contacting HP on this issue. I was not able to find a bios update through their website.
 

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#15
Thats what i want gone the watermark this is sick why they do this make a permanent watermark.
If you have a UEFI bios configuration, an interim test might be to turn off fast boot in your bios (or Win 8.1) and see if that gets rid of your watermark temporariliy. However, the final solutios is to get a UEFI GOP bios update for your specific graphics card. Here is an example of one vendor that has already taken such action:

GOP UEFI BIOS Available for ASUS GeForce GTX 680 Series Graphics Cards

Good luck.

Update: This only applies to those who have both issues. A watermark and a video card warning. FYI, I was able to remove my watermark by just enabling secure boot and my graphics config was already UEFI GOP compliant.
 

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TonyB

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Yes PNY is going to try and fix my issue they had me send in a picture of the card with all labels and my main board bios version as well as what revision my alienware x51 is. I just hope they can read the stickers on my card as all i have is a camera on my phone so i did the best i could.
 

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#17
I contacted HP and they said there is no firmware or bios update for my PC. They said that since my PC originally came with windows 7 there is no need for secure boot. They said to do a factory restore back to windows 7, then upgrade to 8 and then 8.1 which I really don't wanna do but it looks like that's what I'm gonna have to do. Thanks anyways for the help and any other suggestions would be appreciated.
 

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HI pbm5362,

I'm a bit lost as to how their advisement would change you current situation; however, I must admit I haven't read every post in this thread. So, if anyone else can confirm that they understand HPs suggestion and thinks it will work, I'd certainly like to hear why because, there has been no mention of anything relative to changing any BIOS setting to Legacy during this entire process, so it just sounds up like you will end back up in the same place again. What am I missing here? Anyone?
 

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pbm5362

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#19
I was a bit perplexed about their suggestion myself. I don't wannna spend all day resetting and reinstalling with no result. The HP tutorial said for a computer preinstalled with windows 8 to go into the setup utility and then go to secure boot configuration but my PC came with win 7 preinstalled I don't have that option. I haven't tried setting my bios to legacy yet. I'm not sure how to do this. My bios version is AMI 7.10, date 4/9/2012 if anyone has any further suggestions.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center
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    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion P6-2120
    CPU
    AMD A6-3620 APU
    Memory
    6 GB DDR3 ram
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon HD 6530D
    Hard Drives
    ST10000DM 003-9&N162 SATA Disk Device @ 1TB and WD My Book Essential External Hard Drive @ 1TB
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theog

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I was a bit perplexed about their suggestion myself. I don't wannna spend all day resetting and reinstalling with no result. The HP tutorial said for a computer preinstalled with windows 8 to go into the setup utility and then go to secure boot configuration but my PC came with win 7 preinstalled I don't have that option. I haven't tried setting my bios to legacy yet. I'm not sure how to do this. My bios version is AMI 7.10, date 4/9/2012 if anyone has any further suggestions.
If have installed Windows 8 in UEFI mode, & reset the UEFI/BIOS firmware to Legacy, Windows 8 will NOT BOOT.
 

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