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jimbo45

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Hi there
Fortunately I'd backed up my system - but W8.1 Enterprise update has MISLEADING instructions.
If you run the setup from OUTSIDE windows the iso) (I.e boot and choose CUSTOM ) it tells you to run the setup again FROM WITHIN WINDOWS.

THen there's no upgrade path -- you can save personal files but that's it -- brand new install.

So disappointed - but have restored by old image.

Maybe W8.1 pro will upgrade but 8.1 Enterprise seems to force a new install. -- I'm sure "Enterprise customers" will just like that especially if they've just installed W8.1 a few months ago.

If there is a way to upgrade an existing W8.1 enterprise system to the new version without doing a complete re-install please post.

(Note ENTERPRISE --not PRO).

Cheers
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THen there's no upgrade path -- you can save personal files but that's it

You could try fiddling with cversion.ini.

Perhaps renaming it to cversion.ini.old will do the trick
 

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The update only files are available on TechNet. Do it that way. There are 6 KB updates in the package and a ReadMe that tells you what order to apply them in.
 

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jimbo45

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The update only files are available on TechNet. Do it that way. There are 6 KB updates in the package and a ReadMe that tells you what order to apply them in.

Hi there
I must be going Blind or something --I couldn't find the files you are referring to -- would be glad of a link.
Normally I don't mind re-installing - but THIS TIME I just want to update --too much of a hassle to re-install everything.

Here's what I see for W8.1 Enterprise

Cheers
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They put the update only in its own section. Go to TechNet then subscriber downloads. In the Top Products list under Windows you should see.
Windows 8.1 Update New! <You want this one
Windows 8.1 with Update New!
Windows 8.1 Enterprise with Update New!

EDIT: If you go Products A-Z and select W, its listed as "Windows 8.1 Update"

Windows 8.1, Windows Server 2012 R2, Windows Embedded 8.1 Industry Update (x64) - (Multiple Languages) is the one you want.
 

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Ms Round and round we go -- Big boo bo W8.1 update

Hi there

Windows Enterprise 8.1 can't upgrade to the new W8.1

You go round and round in circles

1) Install by booting from DVD - to upgrade it says start from WITHIN Windows

2) Staring from WITHIN windows - no upgrade option offered.

Screenshots enc

What next !!! - Can't see businesses going through this rigmarole.

Note WINDOWS ENTERPRISE version.

Cheers
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Pretty sad stuff. Can't imagine what their reasoning is.
 

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The more I hear, the less I LIKE!:confused:
 

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I posted this in your other thread,
They put the update only in its own section. Go to TechNet then subscriber downloads. In the "Top Products" list under "Windows" you should see.
Windows 8.1 Update New! <You want this one
Windows 8.1 with Update New!
Windows 8.1 Enterprise with Update New!

Also, If you go Products A-Z and select W, its listed as "Windows 8.1 Update"

Windows 8.1, Windows Server 2012 R2, Windows Embedded 8.1 Industry Update (x64) - (Multiple Languages) is the one you want.

I applied the leaked version on my laptops Enterprise install a while ago. No issues that I am aware of.
 

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jimbo45

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Hi there

Thanks

That folder certainly isn't by any means "intuitive" - especially when you see things like "Industry Standard" and Embedded in the title. !!!

I'm sure I won't be the only one confused as to which file to download (especially when the Windows update ISO I downloaded and used the GET KEYS gave me the key I'd already got.

Cheers
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Hi there

Thanks

That folder certainly isn't by any means "intuitive" - especially when you see things like "Industry Standard" and Embedded in the title. !!!

I'm sure I won't be the only one confused as to which file to download (especially when the Windows update ISO I downloaded and used the GET KEYS gave me the key I'd already got.

Cheers
jimbo

I had to think about it for a while to be sure it was the right one. It just says Windows 8.1, I assumed if it wasn't meant for Enterprise it would have said Windows 8.1 Core and Pro or Windows 8.1 Retail or something. I applied the leaked version a while ago without even thinking about it. I'm going to do a clean install in a couple of days.

Talking about keys, if memory serves me, last install I tried to use a PID.txt file and got some This key not valid for this edition or something message. I had to delete the PID.txt file and do a change key after the install to enter my TechNet key.
 

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jimbo45

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Hi there
Thanks -- It worked

I didn't want to go through a whole re-install this time -- I'll do that at some future date. Normally a clean install is the best but I just wanted to try out the update to see if it was worth installing. It took about 15 mins to apply the 6 updates from the file.

Cheers
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    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
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