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USB 3.1 set to reach desktops


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The emerging USB 3.1 standard is set to reach desktops as hardware companies release motherboards with ports that can transfer data twice as fast as the previous USB technology.

MSI on Wednesday announced a 970A SLI Krait motherboard that will support the AMD processors and the USB 3.1 protocol. Motherboards with USB 3.1 ports have also been released by Gigabyte, ASRock and Asus, but those boards support Intel chips.
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I've seen that. USB 3.0 isn't being fully implemented on many USB devices and now they are going to 3.1.

In the recording world there are no 3.0 interface devices yet. All are USB 2.0.
 

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My desktop has USB 3.0 and 2.0 sockets, but it doesn't seem to make any difference which I use for any of my devices - including an external HDD that Speccy tells me is a USB 3.0 device. Everything operates the same, including the speed at which I can transfer files to/from my HDD.
 

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Same here. I saw where they are going to have a USB 3.1 b & c.
 

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I've seen that. USB 3.0 isn't being fully implemented on many USB devices and now they are going to 3.1.

In the recording world there are no 3.0 interface devices yet. All are USB 2.0.
In terms of data transfer the difference for most devices is not that big, but some cool features of my motherboard only work with 3.0 ports, like USB fast charging and flash drive turbo mode.
 

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My desktop has USB 3.0 and 2.0 sockets, but it doesn't seem to make any difference which I use for any of my devices - including an external HDD that Speccy tells me is a USB 3.0 device. Everything operates the same, including the speed at which I can transfer files to/from my HDD.
You should start a thread in the appropriate forum. USB 3.0 is quite abit faster than USB 2.0 for the most part USB 3. External hard drives will run at just about the same speed as if they were internally connected SATA. However you can't make a SATA hard drive transfer data any quicker than it does. With USB 3.0 the limiting factor is the actual speed of the Hard drive. This doesn't work out for SSD however unfortunately.
 

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The implementation of USB3 seems to widely differ depending on the mobo manufacturer. I have seen significant transfer speed differences on different PCs. I was always using the same SSD attached to USB3 with the same enclosure and made images with the same program. All those PCs had internal SSDs too.

On one system I have USB3 and eSata. eSata is actually faster than USB3 although the specs of eSata are only 3Gb/sec versus at least 5Gb/sec for USB3. eSata was appr. 50% faster than USB3.
 

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You should start a thread in the appropriate forum. USB 3.0 is quite abit faster than USB 2.0 for the most part USB 3. External hard drives will run at just about the same speed as if they were internally connected SATA. However you can't make a SATA hard drive transfer data any quicker than it does. With USB 3.0 the limiting factor is the actual speed of the Hard drive. This doesn't work out for SSD however unfortunately.
I don't use that hard drive a lot, mainly storage for stuff I am not using and to store my Windows System Image Backup. It is unplugged most of the time because of a shortage of outlets near my desktop and because it has an oversized plug (voltage converter on plug or something) and has to be plugged into bottom of power strip, or right into the wall. In order to plug in that HDD, I unplug my computer speakers - which also have an oversized plug.

So in short, as long as it works, the actual transfer speeds don't matter too much to me. I just wanted to comment that, at least in my case, 2.0 seems to be as good as any of the higher standards. If there is some utility I could be used to check for issues, I would be interested. Down the road I may end up purchasing something where the extra speed makes a difference.
 

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i had 1TB of files in a folder on a USB 2 external Seagate drive that i transferred to a new USB 3 drive to make a backup on a laptop that only had USB 2 and this took approx 10 hours but i did it overnight and didnt watch it the whole time.

later i had purchased a newer USB 3 laptop and was making another backup but wasnt thinking about speed or USB 3 since i hadnt really seen the speed in person and so i used the original Seagate USB 2 external on the USB 3 equipped laptop to a USB 3 Seagate external of the same make/model and it still took approx 10 hours.

when i had to yet make another backup i then bought the same external again but this time i used USB 3 drives for the transfer and it took approx 3 hours.

so it was approx 3 times faster when i had USB 3 on laptop and both drives were USB 3.
 

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If you buy the "next from cheapest" USB3 HW you will see a big difference between USB 2.0 and USB 3.0.

Here is a test of my Sandisk Extreme 32Gbyte USB3.0 USB-stick

Sandisk-usb3_zps8306696f.jpg

Try to get this speed with USB2.0 :)

BUT!!! As Windows 7 changed to Windows 8(.1) some older USB3 HW dropped in speed. My former USB3.0 hub was an example of that. Windows 8(.1) and Windows 10 are using a slighly different protocol to USB3 than Windows 7. Maybe this is teasing some of you with desktop PC?
 

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My desktop has USB 3.0 and 2.0 sockets, but it doesn't seem to make any difference which I use for any of my devices - including an external HDD that Speccy tells me is a USB 3.0 device. Everything operates the same, including the speed at which I can transfer files to/from my HDD.
I know this is a bit late but FYI for those experiencing "slow" USB 3.0 speeds - make sure you are using the correct USB cables. Though both USB 2 & 3 cables can be used on 3.0 devices, you'll need the USB 3.0 cable to get those 3.0 speeds. One of the easiest ways to recognized/identify a USB 3.0 cable is the look at the end that goes into the USB 3.0 slot and you should see a blue plastic divider....

USB 3.0 cable.jpg

The cable itself doesn't have to be blue, just that divider inside the metal housing as shown above. If the divider is black, chances are it's a USB 2.0 cable. A lot of people think that just because the cable fits and works in a 3.0 device it'll run at 3.0 speeds, but no, you need a 3.0 cable to get 3.0 speeds (or close to it). BTW the same applies to USB ports. If the ports have a black divider instead of blue, it's a USB 2.0 port.

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Thanks Wolfgang. Don't think many understand that you need a USB 3 cable to get USB 3 speeds.
 

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To my knowledge, none of the USB cables I own have blue coloring at the tips. For my HDD, I am probably using the USB cable that came with it, which might be a USB 2.0 cable. I don't know why the maker would bundle a 2.0 cable with a 3.0 drive, but I only have Speccy's word for it that my HDD is a 3.0 drive. I have gone to the Fantom Drive website to attempt to find my drive model, and I have found no info there- probably my model has been discontinued (it is at least 3 years old).
 

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