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OK thanks.
 

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De nada. Thanks for posting it though. :)
 

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How do you get the windows 8.1 upgrade. I have been to the Microsoft Store and when I tell it to upgrade it just goes back to the "upgrade" window and just sets there. Had left in there for over an hour and nothing. Also, what happens if you need to reinstall you need to install the upgrade to 8 after you may have needed to reinstall?

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Not sure yet. I didn't get the option to create .iso from the downloaded files. Unless that is just me, there will a lot needing iso files in the future.

I will make one myself, then.
 

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I found something in the Windows Update screen on the desktop. A 230 MB update and a couple of others. I already have Win8.1 Pro RTM installed tho, so what exactly IS this? Well, an update will tell me, heh.

Nah, just an update. restarts at 30%. Why is it always 30%?

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Right-click for details and usually there's a link to the KB article. They are no doubt security updates for 8.1.
 

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Not sure yet. I didn't get the option to create .iso from the downloaded files. Unless that is just me, there will a lot needing iso files in the future.

I will make one myself, then.
That is going to be the BIG question. Will folks be able to do a clean install of Win8.1 via an .iso or a USB stick from what MS gives them?
 

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Those three are the GA rollups. Install them and 8.1rtm becomes 8.1 GA.

I did it a few days ago. You will notice the build number changes. There is also a weird bar thing at the bottom of the children's IE version.


I found something in the Windows Update screen on the desktop. A 230 MB update and a couple of others. I already have Win8.1 Pro RTM installed tho, so what exactly IS this? Well, an update will tell me, heh.

Nah, just an update. restarts at 30%. Why is it always 30%?

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No idea. It is possible, perhaps if you use the "upgrade assistant " ( available tomorrow, strangely ). We will find out then.

That is weird as a lot will have done the upgrade today, only to find they need to d/l the whole darn thing again to create an iso. Seems a very odd way to go about it by MS.


Not sure yet. I didn't get the option to create .iso from the downloaded files. Unless that is just me, there will a lot needing iso files in the future.

I will make one myself, then.
That is going to be the BIG question. Will folks be able to do a clean install of Win8.1 via an .iso or a USB stick from what MS gives them?
 

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Those three are the GA rollups. Install them and 8.1rtm becomes 8.1 GA.

I did it a few days ago. You will notice the build number changes. There is also a weird bar thing at the bottom of the children's IE version.


I found something in the Windows Update screen on the desktop. A 230 MB update and a couple of others. I already have Win8.1 Pro RTM installed tho, so what exactly IS this? Well, an update will tell me, heh.

Nah, just an update. restarts at 30%. Why is it always 30%?
Thanks SIW. I had to look up GA..

GA means General Availability, the Win8.1 version that is going out today. This is different than the RTM that I loaded from Technet.

Here are the differences, mostly subtle:

http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/ga-rollup-provides-updates-windows-81-rtm

http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/windows-81-upgrade-step-step
 
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Hey Simon,

I don't think the ISO option will be available until tomorrow (18th), and for when using the Windows 8.1 Upgrade Assistant.
Shawn, the link just loads in a 4.8 MB program that brings you to the regular Win8.1 update menu. any other places to find a Win8.1 .iso? The Technet ones require a separate Serial number from Windows 8 to run.
 

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Hey Simon,

I don't think the ISO option will be available until tomorrow (18th), and for when using the Windows 8.1 Upgrade Assistant.
Shawn, the link just loads in a 4.8 MB program that brings you to the regular Win8.1 update menu. any other places to find a Win8.1 .iso? The Technet ones require a separate Serial number from Windows 8 to run.
Hello John,

Currently the only way to get a Windows 8.1 ISO is if your purchased Windows 8.1 using the Windows 8.1 Upgrade Assistant or from an online retail outlet (ex: Microsoft Store).

Afterwards, you'll be able to use the method in the tutorial below with your Windows 8.1 product key to get a Windows 8.1 ISO file anytime you like.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/18309-windows-8-upgrade-iso-download-create.html

Hope this helps. :)
 

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Drats. I too figured that the only way to get a Win8.1 ISO was to purchase a standalone copy of Win8.1/Win8.1 Pro. So far, I have not seen a alternative method on the web on how to build your own Win8.1 ISO that will allow you to use a Win8 license. The only method then is to do a clean install of Win8 with an ISO or USB stick and update to 8.1.
 

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My method to get a 100% official 8.1 iso was to just download it via BitTorrent thru a magnet link on the My Digital Life forums (another famous tech site). They also provide the hash sums for the images, so it was easy to compare those with the hashes available on MS's websites (to make sure it wasnt tampered with). Then I just installed with the publically available install-only key after I realized it wouldnt take my 8 key, and later activated via MS phone support. I'd say that's just about the easiest way to go about doing it.
 

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In the Note portion of this tutorial, the following is stated:

"If you choose to start your PC from removable media that you created when you downloaded the Windows 8 upgrade files, you won’t be able to keep your apps, Windows settings, or personal files when you upgrade."

Does the same thing happen with Win8.1, too?

I have this question because the step 5 (with a screen capture) in this article from another site:
How to Upgrade From Windows 7 to Windows 8.1

instructs:

"5. Select 'Keep personal files only' and click Next. This will allow Windows 8.1 to retain your data files from the Desktop and from your Documents, Music, Pictures and Videos libraries."
 
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Hello drkh,

The quote from the note box in the tutorial here just means that you will not have all the options available at that step 5.

The note box at the top will help show you what will be available to select at that step. :)
 
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I see. Thank you.

I'll be cautious when I do my upgrade from Win7 to Win8.1.
 

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You're welcome. I would definitely back up anything that you don't want to lose first to be safe. :)
 

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