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Solved Unkown device in device manger and can't be uninstalled


demonguy

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Recently i noticed that i have an unkown device in my device manager,its hardware id is "PCI\VEN_1414&DEV_0004&SUBSYS_00041414&REV_00", which seems to be a usb host simulator.
But what on earth is it? I can't delete it, after deleting, it will appear again.
 

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If you right click on it then click Properties it should show the name of the driver. I'm not familiar with it. But deleting will just cause Windows to reinstall the device. I would find out what the driver is for before uninstalling.

Also "if it ain't broke don't fix it" is usually a good rule of thumb to follow. ;)
 

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demonguy

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no, i don't have any name about this. And i just don't know what it is, also i don't know which driver i should install
Here is the screenshot
Also, i didn't plug any new device, so i'm really confused
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What you're seeing: Windows is detecting a Plug and Play device but it can't find a driver for it. So, it's getting listed under "Other" devices. Right clicking the device doesn't help because Windows just redetects the device, tries (again) to find a driver for it and can't so it appears (again) under "Other" device.

So now let's figure out what the heck it is/might be. I also found the ID seems to indicate a USB Host simulator (which is odd). Have you added any new devices?? In Device Manager, (along the top) click View->Devices by Connection and show me a screen shot. Since it's an odd device, i first want to see how it connects to your h/w (and if it's a real or virtual device)
 

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It's not connected the physical bus. That confirms suspicion that it may be a virtual device. I never heard of DsfRoot for DSF either. Will have to do some googling. Will post back tomorrow. Time for bed here. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz :)
 

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This has something to do with a USB Host controller. Possible any USB Hubs on system. This is odd, reference shows it as old use, back to Windows XP. Yes believe it is like a virtual device possibly . Not much Google info to go by.
Device Simulation Framework Reference (Windows Driver Kit)

Possible whatever not compatible if Windows not able to find anything for it.
 

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demonguy

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It's not connected the physical bus. That confirms suspicion that it may be a virtual device. I never heard of DsfRoot for DSF either. Will have to do some googling. Will post back tomorrow. Time for bed here. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz :)
You're so kind, you don't need to google for me, i will google by myself. anyway, thanks
 
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Or something that is part of system, but not hooked up right now,another possible reason it shows this way.
 

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demonguy

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Or something that is part of system, but not hooked up right now,another possible reason it shows this way.
But the weird part is that I can't delete it. After deleting,it will show up again if I refresh device manager. If it's a virtual device. Why can't I delete it ?
 

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Or something that is part of system, but not hooked up right now,another possible reason it shows this way.
Now i found an entry called "Device Simulation Framework 1.0" in uninstall program windows in control panel. And i uninstalled it .Now the unknown device disappears. I don't know if it's a dependency of other programs. I hope no~ _:)з」∠)_
 

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Or something that is part of system, but not hooked up right now,another possible reason it shows this way.
Now i found an entry called "Device Simulation Framework 1.0" in uninstall program windows in control panel. And i uninstalled it .Now the unknown device disappears. I don't know if it's a dependency of other programs. I hope no~ _:)з」∠)_
Did you make a Restore Point first? If you did or have a recent one you can run it if something stops working.
Most likely you won't need it.
 

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Yes, good have restore points. I never stated to delete it or uninstall it, as we do not know if you are or were using it and just wasn't hooked up or in use at time. Good reason you get this in Device manager. I am not familiar with this device simulation framework to advice you on it more, not much info on it, as it seemed like an older thing used before Windows 8.

Like MilesAhead said if notice something happens afterwards, had no restore point whatever it was used for will not work.
Next time wait till you know more about something before decide to delete it, cause then you will most likely have to do a reset or refresh, unless you had a restore point.
 

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Yes, good have restore points. I never stated to delete it or uninstall it, as we do not know if you are or were using it and just wasn't hooked up or in use at time. Good reason you get this in Device manager. I am not familiar with this device simulation framework to advice you on it more, not much info on it, as it seemed like an older thing used before Windows 8.

Like MilesAhead said if notice something happens afterwards, had no restore point whatever it was used for will not work.
Next time wait till you know more about something before decide to delete it, cause then you will most likely have to do a reset or refresh, unless you had a restore point.
You're right, it's a good habit to have a restore point before i do something like this. Thanks for you advice
 

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Yes, good have restore points. I never stated to delete it or uninstall it, as we do not know if you are or were using it and just wasn't hooked up or in use at time. Good reason you get this in Device manager. I am not familiar with this device simulation framework to advice you on it more, not much info on it, as it seemed like an older thing used before Windows 8.

Like MilesAhead said if notice something happens afterwards, had no restore point whatever it was used for will not work.
Next time wait till you know more about something before decide to delete it, cause then you will most likely have to do a reset or refresh, unless you had a restore point.
You're right, it's a good habit to have a restore point before i do something like this. Thanks for you advice
Your Welcome, always good to make one for most cases.
 

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