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ksdixon

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I'm coming to the end of my rope here. Win8.1 32bit OS.

My audio/video editing needs are relatively simple, yet I only seem to find programs which are insultingly simplistic and don't offer the functions I need; needlessly overly complicated, or they do not work just right and are literally frustrating to use.

I am in need of a video editing software. It has to not have the 4 main problems that I keep running into, which all of the ones I've tried have to some degree.

1. Output file sizes:
If I import a video which is 87mb, my output options shouldn't all be several hundred mb's or a few gb's. Why can't these programs just import and output files which are like-for-like? If I'm cutting parts out of the video, then the resulting file should be just under 87mb. If I'm joining two equal sized videos together on a timeline, then the resulting file should be 174mb (the total of the two 87mb source files).

2. Output video resolution:
If my input/source file fills the entire screen when played in full screen, then I don't want my edited file to fill-up a much smaller area in the center of the screen with large black borders around it, and sometimes the loss of visual quality is huge. Again why can't they just do like-for-like? Windows Movie Maker is a swine for doing this.

3. Quick seeking on the timeline, ability to 'cut'/'split' video into pieces easily:
Some programs are hard to quickly move through the timeline as the movie is playing in the preview area (I believe this is called seeking, I may be wrong). This can be usefull if you're trying to find a specific point in the video without blindly clicking the timeline at random. Sony Vegas 9's always gives me issues when trying to do this, by not allowing me to seek properly, or jumping my arrow to the start/end of a clip and I have to start seeking all over again.

Only the old Windows Movie Maker had 'cutting' correctly in my opinion, as it was an easy button to press on the preview window, instead of having to right-click the timeline at just the right spot, or go into the File,Edit,View menus every time you want to cut a part of the video.

4. Ability to separate audio track and manipulate it:
I have a downloaded video, and something is seriously wrong with the audio. Not only is it out of sync with the video (which in itself I could probably fix with some faffing around), but it's also decreased in speed. Media Player Classic lets me increase the speed again, but there is no way to save the audio track as such, and I haven't found any other audio/video editing software that would let me increase the speed of the audio.
 

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Get Sony Vegas Pro 11 or 10 (i think they both support 32 bit, but not sony vegas pro 12)
i personally recommend this as i use it myself
regards,
ibulletproof:)
 

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Does Sony Vegas 10/11 solve the issue I had with Sony Vegas 9 regarding seeking the timeline? How about the other 3 issues I have with video editors in general?
 

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Well i m not sure about that cuz i am currently using vegas pro 12.
well, few other good alternatives are adobe premire pro or adobe after effects cs6 , Final Cut Pro etc
well regarding the other 3 yea i guess they would be solved
 
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I think the two Adobe products are x64 only. At least in CS6 which is what I have. Isn't Final Cut Pro mac/apple only?
 

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Sony Vegas 11 has the timeline seek problem, and file save options are ridiculously complicated.
Although I selected 'match project settings', I could not save the imported .mp4 as a .mp4 output file. The option was '.m2ts' or 'all files'. Even trying to manually type .mp4 yeilded a file called '.mp4.m2ts' lol.
 

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Try Cyberlink Power Director i used to edit with that be4 , it is not that bad and it supported 32 bit on my old laptop. So , u can give it a chance. +its very easy to use
 

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Sony Vegas is a very good software, but u'll have to wait for years for the render speed to get over with.
I'd personally recommend Adobe Premiere if possible, its better than Vegas more options and double times lesser render speed.
And if u want to add professional animation Fx to your movie Adobe After Effects is a must, u can do almost anything with it XD

Source:- 4yrs experience in video editing ;)
 

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:ditto: Lol thats what i recommended :thumbsup:
 

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Just double-checked and Adobe Premiere Pro CS6 + Adobe After Effects CS6 are both 64bit only programs. Unfortunately I have a 32bit processor.
 

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Check CS5 or CS4 , i guess not much difference in them?
 

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then go on for the CS4 version if u like becuz there isnt much of a difference!
 

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ibulletproof @:cry:i dint see that
and damn it ur posting faster than me
 

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and btw cs5 stopped supporting 32 bit bro:eek:
 

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Lol thanks for the compliment xD. Oh alright so get cs4
 

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Cyberlink PowerDirector 8 and 11 have terrible rendering times on edited videos. Couple of hours to do 4% of a 40min video before I cancelled them. Currently trying Adobe CS4 Premiere Pro. If anyone is familliar with it, I could use some information or pointers around avoiding the 4 problems I usually run into when using Premier Pro.
 

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umm actually what are the problems u run into?
 

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these are the main 4 issues I keep having with different video editing software:

I'm coming to the end of my rope here. Win8.1 32bit OS.

My audio/video editing needs are relatively simple, yet I only seem to find programs which are insultingly simplistic and don't offer the functions I need; needlessly overly complicated, or they do not work just right and are literally frustrating to use.

I am in need of a video editing software. It has to not have the 4 main problems that I keep running into, which all of the ones I've tried have to some degree.

1. Output file sizes:
If I import a video which is 87mb, my output options shouldn't all be several hundred mb's or a few gb's. Why can't these programs just import and output files which are like-for-like? If I'm cutting parts out of the video, then the resulting file should be just under 87mb. If I'm joining two equal sized videos together on a timeline, then the resulting file should be 174mb (the total of the two 87mb source files).

2. Output video resolution:
If my input/source file fills the entire screen when played in full screen, then I don't want my edited file to fill-up a much smaller area in the center of the screen with large black borders around it, and sometimes the loss of visual quality is huge. Again why can't they just do like-for-like? Windows Movie Maker is a swine for doing this.

3. Quick seeking on the timeline, ability to 'cut'/'split' video into pieces easily:
Some programs are hard to quickly move through the timeline as the movie is playing in the preview area (I believe this is called seeking, I may be wrong). This can be usefull if you're trying to find a specific point in the video without blindly clicking the timeline at random. Sony Vegas 9's always gives me issues when trying to do this, by not allowing me to seek properly, or jumping my arrow to the start/end of a clip and I have to start seeking all over again.

Only the old Windows Movie Maker had 'cutting' correctly in my opinion, as it was an easy button to press on the preview window, instead of having to right-click the timeline at just the right spot, or go into the File,Edit,View menus every time you want to cut a part of the video.

4. Ability to separate audio track and manipulate it:
I have a downloaded video, and something is seriously wrong with the audio. Not only is it out of sync with the video (which in itself I could probably fix with some faffing around), but it's also decreased in speed. Media Player Classic lets me increase the speed again, but there is no way to save the audio track as such, and I haven't found any other audio/video editing software that would let me increase the speed of the audio.
 

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1.U can u a video converter such as freemake video converter [ i use it most of the time ]
i make video for 10 secs and turn out to be 1 gb so i just use this converter it converter it to just 10 secs to any format u like.
btw each video takes only 5 -30 to convert so dont worry abt time ;)
2.when xporting the video u have an option on top of the preview to change the type of fill.
or when making ur movie u have to change the particular sequnce settings.
if using like a slideshow etc, ( while making the video ) click on the video and go to the animation panel and motion and resize to ur will.
3.in premiere u have the cut or razor tool u can even resize the clip including the time the options are available if the tool panel is nearby ( u can enable it in the windows options or tools options )
4.to edit the audio track in case of free softwares u can use audacity and for paid u can go for adobe audition, nuendo, cubase, etc.or u can use the functions of premiere itself to edit
 

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ksdixon

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Sony Vegas 11 has the timeline seek problem, and file save options are ridiculously complicated.
Although I selected 'match project settings', I could not save the imported .mp4 as a .mp4 output file. The option was '.m2ts' or 'all files'. Even trying to manually type .mp4 yeilded a file called '.mp4.m2ts' lol.

Not really had a chance to look at Adobe Premier/After Effects CS4 yet, so am currently working in Sony Vegas 11.

I put 10 .mov files totalling 555MB onto the timeline one after the other, since I want one video instead of 10. Having pressed 'match project settings' in the output/render as window, I didn't find the option to save it as a .mov file, but did find the option for .mp4 this time. At 18mins/3% into the rendering process, the estimated time remaining is just spiraling upwards, currently saying it'll take 7hrs and counting to render this 1hr 30m video. The unfinished output file is already 254MB, so I have no idea what the file size will be when Vegas is finished, but I'm guessing it'll be far beyond the 555MB which the source 10 videos add up-to. I really wish I understood how to make the output file match/closely resemble the input file(s) file size.

The only good thing so far is that I discovered that if you use teh left and right arrows on your keyboard to seek along the timeline it seems to work. I have never tried that before, and would always attempt to scroll through the timeline by dragging my mouse, and the program would fight me all the way.
 

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