The beginning of the end of Mozilla Firefox

Mozilla Firefox is adding ad's to their browsers . IMHO the beginning of the end for what once, a long time ago in a galaxy far away , was a great browser.

We believe that if you put the user front and center, you can make every experience for them richer and more meaningful. The Content Services team has embraced this, and today I wanted to share some of our thinking and explain our first steps for putting it into practice.
When the user is at the center everyone benefits, including content creators whether they are publishers or marketers. Digital has already disrupted all kinds of industries, thanks in large part to its ability to deliver more choice and personalization for users. The challenge for digital media is that it is a rapidly-changing environment, and what worked yesterday might not work tomorrow.

https://blog.mozilla.org/advancingc...sher-transformation-with-users-at-the-center/


Greetz,

Rover

 

[jimbo45]

Hi there
FF started going bad when they needed to have zillions of addons and it became total bloatware.

Adverts on some mobile phone apps are partially or almost tolerable because they are at the bottom of the screen and can be totally ignored -- on a phone with a decent screen size such as Samsung S4/S5 the ads don't get in the way at all -- surprised people even bother advertising like that as nobody I know ever looks at them.

On a desktop it's a totally different ballgame -- I get irritated enough when reading text from a website and a horrible popup appears just over the text you are trying to read -- another website in my blacklist of sites marked DO NOT VISIT, - but having adverts appear while I'm doing desktop work -- NO THANKS !!!!!.

There's enough decent freeware out there without having to have adverts blown in your face -- for most things I stick with IE -- it's improved these days beyond all recognition from the early releases and as it's part of your license Windows it won't throw up any irritating adverts.

If people want payment for their work (and why shouldn't they) --that's fine by me also but find a decent business model that DOES NOT IRRITATE YOUR CUSTOMERS.

Cheers
jimbo

 

[LovingWindows]

I guess Google isn't paying them enough.

 

[geeve420]

Last I checked, Google gave them $300 million a year that goes till November this year, and has for the last three years. That's when the Google contract ends again.

According to the webs this contract with Google accounted for 85% of their revenue....

Geeve

 

[mcnulty]

I'm also using Pale Moon because it seems to be faster and I like its UI a bit better, but honestly I fail to see what the big deal is, it's not like they're going to show ads on your face while you're browsing.

 

[Der Snoober]

Hi there
FF started going bad when they needed to have zillions of addons and it became total bloatware.

Adverts on some mobile phone apps are partially or almost tolerable because they are at the bottom of the screen and can be totally ignored -- on a phone with a decent screen size such as Samsung S4/S5 the ads don't get in the way at all -- surprised people even bother advertising like that as nobody I know ever looks at them.

On a desktop it's a totally different ballgame -- I get irritated enough when reading text from a website and a horrible popup appears just over the text you are trying to read -- another website in my blacklist of sites marked DO NOT VISIT, - but having adverts appear while I'm doing desktop work -- NO THANKS !!!!!.

There's enough decent freeware out there without having to have adverts blown in your face -- for most things I stick with IE -- it's improved these days beyond all recognition from the early releases and as it's part of your license Windows it won't throw up any irritating adverts.

If people want payment for their work (and why shouldn't they) --that's fine by me also but find a decent business model that DOES NOT IRRITATE YOUR CUSTOMERS.

Cheers
jimbo

Amen to that Jimbo! Nicely said!

Greetz,

Rover

 

[BunnyJ]

I'm also using Pale Moon because it seems to be faster and I like its UI a bit better, but honestly I fail to see what the big deal is, it's not like they're going to show ads on your face while you're browsing.

I for one am just going to wait and see what happens with FF before I judge if they're messing up a good product or not. Right now I'm using Pale Moon and it's working fine for me.

My 2c
Jeff

 

[MasterChief]

I for one am just going to wait and see what happens with FF before I judge if they're messing up a good product or not.

I can see someone wanting to take that approach and cool, but for me, the article clearly goes against their core mission.

I can't be down with something so confused, or that goes against why I first started using it in the first place. It's exposing their mindset as of late. As you say, Pale Moon is working great here too.

 

[Hopachi]

Also waiting for the new version to see what the ads bring in + to see who of the FireFox Family follows all the new stuff. Cyberfox, Pale Moon, ..., Ice Weasel.

I would think that if FF goes that path it's likely that Pale Moon would as well. Unless they have enough individuals that will volunteer to keep up the development of the browser.

I agree, as long as forked versions exist and can be created, all is possible.

 

[lehnerus2000]

In all honesty, it feels like I am using 10 internet connections at once compared to FF. It is that much faster for everything, with precisely same exact setup as FF. (I copied my profile from FF for it - now only thing left is to delete FF, it's profile, then move Pale Moon profile to my non-boot/system drive like FF was.)

Did you change any Pale Moon settings from the defaults?

On my PC, I don't notice any speed differences between the latest browsers (Chrome, FF, IE10, Maxthon, Opera and PM).
I've always suspected that browser speeds are immaterial if you don't have a huge Internet bandwidth (we get 5Mb/s maximum).

I swapped to PM last August as a (feeble) protest against Mozilla's preoccupation with adding "fluff" features, instead of fixing the few problems that exist in FF.

funny, just to make sure... everybody is using windows + (mostly SkyDrive) or maybe Chrome or Opera?

Yes, no, no, no.

 

[DustSailor]

Never tried Pale Moon. I only use firefox to get around adds (hello!)

Mostly the video adds though, so as long as youtube gets no interference from FF, I'll keep it on my machine.

Haven't tried chrome for an extended time either. I still prefer IE above all browsers for all other uses. The ONLY thing I don't like about it is adblock isn't available o.0

 

[MasterChief]

Nope. All I did was install Pale Moon then insert my FF profile to it.

I also installed it on a Win7 laptop with 1 GB memory and other machines as well.

It really shines through on the Win 7 laptop because it uses about 100 MB less memory on average and also, it starts much more quickly due to stripped out code. (Again, same profile used from FF, so comparison is fair here.)

 

[dwarfer66]

Yeah, I installed Pale Moon yesterday, all my options I had in FF work fine (adblock, etc). seems to load a few page a bit faster than FF.

 

[labeeman]

[h=1]Mozilla's top exec defends in-Firefox ads, revenue search[/h]

Computerworld - The chairwoman of Mozilla Foundation, the non-profit that funds the development of Firefox, last week defended the decision to pursue in-browser ads, saying that it's important to generate revenue.

"To explicitly address the question of whether we care about generating revenue and sustaining Mozilla's work, the answer is yes," Mitchell Baker, former CEO of Mozilla Corp., the subsidiary responsible for Firefox, and now the chair of the parent foundation, wrote on a blog Thursday. "In fact, many of us feel responsible to do exactly this."

 

[MasterChief]

Thank you Labeeman. I don't want to get all huffy and puffy over it, but Mozilla has lost my respect completely. 0% left. I will continue to use Pale Moon as I have, because the browser itself is good and I trust that Pale Moon maker will strip out ads just like the other nonsense code he has already stripped.

They know their users and supporters use it because of what they were. Precisely for what they were. And now they are selling out completely by kicking their loyal user base in the shins. L o s t A l l R e s p e c t.

 

[BunnyJ]

Thank you Labeeman. I don't want to get all huffy and puffy over it, but Mozilla has lost my respect completely. 0% left. I will continue to use Pale Moon as I have, because the browser itself is good and I trust that Pale Moon maker will strip out ads just like the other nonsense code he has already stripped.

They know their users and supporters use it because of what they were. Precisely for what they were. And now they are selling out completely by kicking their loyal user base in the shins. L o s t A l l R e s p e c t.

How does FF pay the bills without some way to generate revenue?? "Selling out""?? That's a bit harsh.. it takes bucks to develop and maintain and kind of software.

 

[MasterChief]

Thank you Labeeman. I don't want to get all huffy and puffy over it, but Mozilla has lost my respect completely. 0% left. I will continue to use Pale Moon as I have, because the browser itself is good and I trust that Pale Moon maker will strip out ads just like the other nonsense code he has already stripped.

They know their users and supporters use it because of what they were. Precisely for what they were. And now they are selling out completely by kicking their loyal user base in the shins. L o s t A l l R e s p e c t.

How does FF pay the bills without some way to generate revenue?? "Selling out""?? That's a bit harsh.. it takes bucks to develop and maintain and kind of software.

Very simple. Put a notice to the world that they need volunteers to continue development. That void would be filled by enthusiasts, excellent ones at that, by the end of the day.

Another way forward is to scrap the unnecessary rapid release schedule.

If so inclined, they could then put a link to donate to volunteers in the About section.

But nothing of this sort will happen, because it appears like I said, that they have sold out.

How did they make it this far without ads? That method just poof vanish? heh nah

 

[labeeman]

Thank you Labeeman. I don't want to get all huffy and puffy over it, but Mozilla has lost my respect completely. 0% left. I will continue to use Pale Moon as I have, because the browser itself is good and I trust that Pale Moon maker will strip out ads just like the other nonsense code he has already stripped.

They know their users and supporters use it because of what they were. Precisely for what they were. And now they are selling out completely by kicking their loyal user base in the shins. L o s t A l l R e s p e c t.

I have been using Pale Moon for some time now. It is the little things that FF has done and not done that caused me to switch over.
I do not like the rapid release cycle either.

 

[JohnBurns]

I don't mean to hijack this thread - but has anyone heard anything about ads in Mozilla Thunderbird as well as Firefox? A little concerned since I use Thunderbird now.

 

[Collin2012]

I have one rebuttal to this, *clears throat* AdBlock

Thank you and goodnight.

 

[MasterChief]

I have one rebuttal to this, *clears throat* AdBlock

Thank you and goodnight.

As long as you mean "AdBlock Edge" and not "Adblock Plus". Wladimir sold out hardcore as well. Besides, Edge is technically superior and literally faster too, anyway.