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Storage Spaces


streetwolf

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Storage Spaces are a very intriguing part of W8. I'd like to give them a try. From what I've read if I try to use Storage Spaces on drives with files the files will be deleted. Is this correct?

If I move my files to another drive that's won't be part of my pool, can I then move them back to my new pools and have them on a drive with the same drive letter so the programs that use them can access them?

I would probably be using my F and G drives to use Storage Space. I assume I can give the pools the same drive letters then move the corresponding files over to them and my programs will be none the wiser that they are part of a Storage Pool?
 

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pparks1

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Storage Space is quite interesting and I've spent a fair amount of time playing with it. And in the event that your host computer dies, you can simply pull out the drives, move them to another Windows 8 host and the system reads the storage spaces metadata baked into them and reassembles on the next computer without you having to do anything.

Yes, when you setup drives in your pool, it's going to format them at the start..so files would be wiped out. Copy them elsewhere and then copy them back.

Correct, you can assign and change the drive letters associated with your pools. And the programs are none the wiser as to which type of storage they are on.
 

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streetwolf

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I use O&O Disk Image 6 Pro to do my disk images. Unfortunately O&O told me they don't support Storage Spaces but are working on it. My biggest concern with Storage Spaces is, can they be accessed from a bootable CD or USB drive to do drive restores? DI6 uses what looks like a W7 PE environment which obviously knows nothing about Storage Space.

I would imaging that even under *nix, Storage Spaces can't be accessed as they are under W8. Not being able to manipulate my disks with DI6 with it's PE bootable disk is a huge factor for me not using them.

Any thoughts on this?
 

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I wouldn't count on any imaging utility right now to work with Storage Spaces. I only image my System drives...not my data drives. these are backed up separately via robocopy jobs with the /MIR switch to external offsite devices for me.
 

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streetwolf

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I store my disk images on a drive that I thought I would use as Storage Space until I thought about it. Not a good idea to use Storage Space on a drive with your images?

Have you ever looked at you drives under a non Windows 8 OS? I'm curious as to how they would show up?
 

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Have you ever looked at you drives under a non Windows 8 OS? I'm curious as to how they would show up?
No, but I want to.

My storage spaces box is a VM with 3 extra hard drives in a storage array. I'll copy them over to a windows 7 host and see what happens. I'll report back my findings.
 

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I took 2 drives and created Storage spaces on it. I made 1 storage space that was a 2GB Mirror, and I made 1 storage space that was a 2GB stripe. I copied some large files to each volume.

I then attached those 2 physical disks to a Windows 7 machine. Disk Management tool a long time to come up and it just showed me the 2 physical disks. It sees them as having partitions, but I have no options other than to DELETE the volumes or convert them to dynamic disks. I in no way have access to any of the data on either of the 2 storage spaces.

When I attach these same disks to a Windows 8 VM, they work just as they used to.
 

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streetwolf

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Very informative. Seems those programs that come with bootable media to to work standalone will need updating to support Storage Spaces. Seeing how long it took them to handle RAID I wouldn't expect to see anything soon.
 

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