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ritahubert

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Hello,

In W7 one could use the function key F8 during start up.

In W8 one much go via PC-settings and so on till the screen where Safety Mode en other are visible...

So far so good but once there i can't activivate the number 4 (Saftey mode) and after a while the PC starts-up normal.

Is this probleem known?

Regards

RitaHubert
 

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brummyfan

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Hi,
Have you tried pressing F4 key?
 

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brummyfan

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Try opening "Run", enter "msconfig", click "Boot" tab, tick "safeboot" and see whether it helps.
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proudtobegreek

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Ritahubert,please do follow brummyfan's advice,its gonna work for sure and also get you familiar with msconfig too.I am doing it How to enable the F8 key to start Safe Mode in Windows 8 way and works just fine,the function will remain as an option during startup,no need to repeat msconfig steps.
 

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ritahubert

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Hi all,
Thanks for the information.

Saftey mode could be set via msconfig : didn't know (thanks and if necessary i can at least start it up as such)

The question stays : why can't i activate it via PCsetting? i even have an impression that the keys aren't working ...neither the "enter key" to go immediately to the operating systeem
Via PC setting there other important functions which i would like to activate.


For the change to the F8 key i will have a further look tot it but i would like to know if you have the same problem via the PC settings.

Regards
RitaHubert
 

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ritahubert

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Hello Proud....

I exectue the activation of the F8 key as you proposed with success but:

*I have an Acer and to activate the function keys i have to press FN+F8
but nothing happened

*i went back to the PC settings and i did receive an another layout were i should have been able to activate the safety mode via the keybord but i couldn't move the scroll keys.

Conclusion: could it be that at that stage i have no access to the keyboard and that could explain why it doesn't work even via the PCSetting (when i try to force it via the enter key also no reaction and i have to wait for the time out)

Meanwhile i did some further testing.
*F2 works Always during start-up so the FN key is oke
*after performing the update it sis working sometime as you described but the scoll keys don't work after the PC-setting...
*after a reboot it isn't anymore ?

Further help is welcome

regards
RitaHubert
 
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Mystere

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The F8 function is still there, it's just that the timeout is extremely short and it's very difficult to hit it exactly (you have to get it right after the keyboard has been initialized, but before the OS starts loading). It might help to turn off fast boot as well, since this essentially uses the hibernation system (sort of a mini-hibernate) to save kernel state, but many BIOS's/EFI's don't allow the same keyboard prompts when working in hibernate mode.
 

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proudtobegreek

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ritahubert

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Hi all,
-the time for using the F8 seems indeed to be very critical also with Fast Restart off and the correction on.

-the technical information provided is very interesting.

-i would prefer the method via the PC-setting as there are other interesting options but unfortuanally when hidding a key on my keybord there is no reaction (i am not using bitlocker).

Can somebody confirm that this is working on your PC, so that i know that it isn't a general problem because than it is located on my PC
I am using an Acer Aspire S7-391

For the safe start-up i will use the proposed method via msconfig

Regards
ritahubert
 

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I tried the F-8 code & it worked.
Reverted back to UEFI though.-- F-12 for options
 

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ritahubert

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Hi,
Thanks for your information.

Is it possible to perform also the following:
charms / pcsetting/ general / advanced start-up options / problem solving / advanced options / start-up setting and start up

As you probably know one can make there a choise ...but the keyboard don't react even not on the enter key to continu immediately.

After a time-out it is shut-down.

That information is very important to me because that would mean that there is a problem with my laptop.
Can you maybe also mention if you are using W8 or W8.1

Regards
ritahubert
 

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Look to the left---Windows 8 Pro with Media Center
 

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    Manufacturer Gateway Model SX2110G (P0)
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    Type DDR3 Size 8192 MBytes DRAM Frequency 532.3 MHz
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    ATI AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics
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    AMD High Definition Audio Device Realtek High Definition Audio USB Audio Device
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ritahubert

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Hi,

Thanks for the information , i didn't see that (very important) to know when i see replies.

So ,is it nevertheless possible to perform also the following:
charms / pcsetting/ general / advanced start-up options / problem solving / advanced options / start-up setting and start up

Knowing that i go back if necessary to my provider.

Regards
ritahubert
 

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queencatifah

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Hi. Message for Rita especially. I have an acer aspire s7 392 ssd etc and run Windows 8.1. Yesterday an automatic windows update took place and since then after entering my username/password my screen just flashes with the desktop background image - the laptop gets hot, the CPU goes into overdrive and the only thing I can do is go into task manager or switch off. I've read a few comments about this problem and it is suggested that it is the graphics driver than is playing up and I need to reinstall. The only way to do this is to enter safe mode - but I can't do this with the F8 key or fn F8 or shift F8. Can you or anyone else of course advise. Thank you. Catherine
 

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genet

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The only way to do this is to enter safe mode - but I can't do this with the F8 key or fn F8 or shift F8.

Can you boot to the Advanced Startup Options menu from the power button?

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/4935-startup-options-menu-boot-windows-8-a.html

5. Click/tap on the Power button at the bottom right corner, press and hold the Shift key, and click/tap on Restart. (see screenshots below)

Signed-out.jpg

Signed-in.jpg

Click on Troubleshoot (see screenshot below).

Choose an option.png

Click on Advanced options (see screenshot below).

Troubleshoot.png

Click on Startup Settings (see screenshot below).

Note: You will not have this option if you booted from a Windows 8/10 installation media, system repair disc or recovery USB flash drive.

Advanced options.png

Click on Restart (see screenshot below).

Startup Settings 1.png

Press 4/F4 to enable Safe Mode, press 5/F5 to enable Safe Mode with Networking or press 6/F6 to enable Safe Mode with Command Prompt (see screenshot below).

Startup Settings 2.png

NOTE: If Windows 8/10 does not start: How to boot into Safe Mode from the Windows 8/10 installation media or recovery USB flash drive. -> link
 
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    UEFI firmware (BIOS) embedded Windows 8 product key.
If you install WinAero: Boot UI Tuner

You will automatically get the Startup settings as shown in the post above.
When you restart.
 

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