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SSD listed as 'Hard disk drive' instead of 'Solid state drive'??

streetwolf

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Any idea why my SSD is listed as a 'Hard disk drive' instead of 'Solid state drive' as in your screenshots above? I am running W8 Pro x64 RTM from Technet. In Device Manager my SSD shows as a 'Samsung SSD 830 Series SCSI Disk Device'. I wonder if it's being on a Marvell controller might be the reason. My mobo has both Marvell and Intel disk controllers.
 

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    UEFI BIOS with a GPT SSD boot drive.

streetwolf

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I ran my 'problem' past Ray Hinchliffe who is the author of the great program SIV with whom I've done testing for many years. He's got to know more about hardware than anyone I know. His program also didn't pick up my SSD as an SSD. He states it's because the Samsung 830 Series does not return many SMART attributes compared to other SSD's. He changed his code to correctly determine that my drive is an SSD. He stated to me that as long as SIV can read the drive's SMART data it can determine if it is an SSD regardless of the type of controller it's on. Keep in mind my drive is identified as an SSD in the program Samsung Drive Magician SSD with came with the drive. This is what I use to optimize it (TRIM). So I'm sure my problem is simply one of labeling my SSD incorrectly and not anything reducing it's functionality as it does perform as an SSD.

SIV now determines I have an SSD by checking the 0xB1 attribute in SMART. Here's what he sent me if you are into this stuff:

if( ( sap->aid == 0xAB ) || // Program Fail Count
( sap->aid == 0xAC ) || // Erase Fail Count
( sap->aid == 0xAD ) || // Wear Leveling Count

( sap->aid == 0xB1 ) || // Wear Leveling Count (Chip)

( sap->aid == 0xE8 ) ) // Endurance Remaining
{
sdm->ssd = TRUE; // Drive is an SSD
break;
}


Perhaps W8 uses SMART data to determine an SSD and doesn't use the new method that SIV now uses. Of course I can just switch controllers to find out.
 

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    Windows 8.1 Pro X64
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    PC/Desktop
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    Homemade Rig
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 Quad 3770K @ 5 Ghz
    Motherboard
    ASUS P8Z77-V Deluxe
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator-GT 16GB @ 2400 Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire HD7970 3GB OC Edition
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS PA246Q & PA249Q IPS 24" LCD
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 830, 840 256GB |
    2TB Seagate SATA3 |
    Hitachi eSata 500GB
    PSU
    Corsair Professional Series 1050W
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    Corsair Obsididan 800D Full Tower
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    Corsair H100 Liquid CPU Cooler
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    Logitech Wireless K520
    Mouse
    Microsoft Wireless Explorer
    Internet Speed
    120/35
    Browser
    Fx41
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    UEFI BIOS with a GPT SSD boot drive.

username14

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It probably wont change anything unless the OS optimises the drives depending on which one it thinks is in there. :sarc:
 
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    8 GB of DDR *need to get more*
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    GTX 1080 G1 Gaming 8G
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    Not too sure
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    1920x1080 / 1024x768
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    WD red series business 3TB
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    MCafee

Bat 1

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I've had the problem of a HDD seen as a SSD several times but never the other way. Fixed by a Admin CMD of winsat formal but don't know if that'll work in your case ?
 

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TheCherryKing

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Is the SSD a SATA or a SAS SSD? I could see Windows recognizing the SSD as a SCSI device if the SSD is a SAS SSD but not a SATA SSD.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center
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    2x Intel Xeon E5-2695v3
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    Supermicro X10DAC
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    64 GB ECC DDR4 2133 MHz(1 x 64 GB)
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    AMD Radeon R9 390X
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    3x 3840x2160
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    SanDisk LT1600RO - SAS 12 Gb/s
    Seagate ST4000NM0023 - SAS 6 Gb/s
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    Thermaltake Toughpower Grand
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    Corsair 900D
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    2x Corsair Hydro Series H75
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