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Someone accessed my Gmail from my own IP. What to do?


kmint

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#1
Hi,

I was warned by Gmail twice in one month that they blocked an access attempt from a weird IP (looking lime a mac address more than like an IP).

But I noticed that someone has accessed my Gmail from my own IP with devices which are not mine, a Mac computer and a Galaxy S4.

It could be some neighbour hacking my wifi and gmail passwords??

What should I do apart from changing my passwords in wifi and gmail?

I'm scared, really.

Thanks
 

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#2
Have you changed the router username and login password, which accesses the router settings, as well? A lot of people leave them at default, which only takes a quick Google to find out what it is.

You can select which devices are allowed on your network by only allowing the MAC addresses of your chosen devices to access it. This article might not be to your specific router but it should give you an idea of the principle of 'MAC Address Filtering'.

http://blog.dlink.com/how-to-block-devices-from-your-home-network/
 

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Have you changed the router username and login password, which accesses the router settings, as well? A lot of people leave them at default, which only takes a quick Google to find out what it is.

You can select which devices are allowed on your network by only allowing the MAC addresses of your chosen devices to access it. This article might not be to your specific router but it should give you an idea of the principle of 'MAC Address Filtering'.

http://blog.dlink.com/how-to-block-devices-from-your-home-network/
Many thanks, I'll do that.

What scares me most is how they got the gmail user and password. On my laptop I am usually logged off. Maybe accessing my tablet ot smartphone where the gmail app is always on? I am lost on this case.

One more issue is that I have been using a new chinese browser based on Chrome, this one http://www.qixing123.com/

And since then I am having awful problems related to my laptop making horrible disk noises (I must send it to repair), the laptop gets very slow, etc.

I fear chinese software and chinese communist authorities. It was so weird that even when I went to the forum my posts were deleted everytime I mentioned it would crash and slow down my computer. Just a minute after posting them, they vanished. However if I didnt say anything about crashing, etc, the posts would stay. Incredible, uh? I finally emaild with the owner guy and he said he didn't know the reason for this...

Could a program like a browser steal your passwords and etc? My Defender antivirus doesnt detect anything.
 

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#4
If you MAC filter your router, Change your admin router password and lastly do all your passwords again that will help greatly. Turn off Remote Access. Make your wifi password really strong. Go for 12 characters or more, copy/paste it in a document and save it. All you need to do then is paste it into your wifi login. Others will probably chime in with suggestions as well.

Is the previous owner within your wifi range? If your device is pre-owned I would look to starting clean by re-stalling for peace of mind.
 

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kmint

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#5
Many thanks again.

I used the MAC filter and I've got seven (7) devices at home with wifi. All of them were new, not used. 2 laptops, 1 chromebook, 1 kindle, 1 chromecast, 1 smartphone, 1 tablet. It's a long and boring process to find and type all the MAC addresses. Then I read it's almost useless for security...

I still don't believe that some neighbour is doing this. Very few are at reach, and they all have their own wifi I think. People have money here. And it's been 4 different days from 4 different devices.

Plus I still don't get how he got my gmail user and password. I fear an inner job from some trojan or something.
 

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#6
1.) Update all antivirus / malware detection programs on all devices used in your home and scan your system(s), remove any incidents they may find.

2.) Immediately change your router username and password - please don't make it something simple like "password", use random numbers / letters / punctuation with a mix of upper and lower class with a minimum of 8 characters. Keep the username and password in a safe location incase you need it in the future.

3.) Any and all online accounts that have been or you think may have been hacked, change your passwords with the same method I mentioned above.

Do it in that order.

In this day and age it really surprises me that more people than none can care less about their security, especially their routers. Your router is your first point of defense from intrusion, if you buy one ..... change the user / password, everyone knows that the default user / password for any router is admin / admin. I cannot tell you how many of my neighbors I nailed on this, needless to say they have all changed their passwords.
 

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kmint

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Thank you very much @edee.

But I did have changed the routers user name and password from the first day I got it. And I do use long alphanumeric passwords, in fact my wifi password was 16 characters like this s85fHv0zc9fip11j, which is my typical password type as I use a technique to remember these very complicated and long ones.

I still have doubts on this attack. The gmail account hacked is the one that I only use for Android, meaning that I created it only for what Google requires, but not for personal emailing. So there is no personal emails in that account, just emails from the apps I buy our sign up to. The real email is another one that I only check from the laptop and never from the smartphone or tablet just to avoid this risk. And that one hasn't been accessed by anyone.

That is why I wonder if the breach has come from Android, maybe from some trojan.
 

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Thank you very much @edee.

But I did have changed the routers user name and password from the first day I got it. And I do use long alphanumeric passwords, in fact my wifi password was 16 characters like this s85fHv0zc9fip11j, which is my typical password type as I use a technique to remember these very complicated and long ones.

I still have doubts on this attack. The gmail account hacked is the one that I only use for Android, meaning that I created it only for what Google requires, but not for personal emailing. So there is no personal emails in that account, just emails from the apps I buy our sign up to. The real email is another one that I only check from the laptop and never from the smartphone or tablet just to avoid this risk. And that one hasn't been accessed by anyone.

That is why I wonder if the breach has come from Android, maybe from some trojan.
Reset your phone and make a new Google account.
 

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#9
Reset your phone and make a new Google account.


Do you think it's necesssary? If I create a new Google account for Android I lose all the apps that I bought. Which is maybe 100€.
 

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#10
OK something very relevant just happened.

I have set my Gmail account "A" to also check for my Gmail account "B" (the one I only use for Android matters). And just now, in my account A I got a warning message from Gmail saying that it can't access my account B (because I had changed the password and of course it needed to be changed also there). So I tried to change the password of B from A and it didn't work. I tried twice.

And guess what. I got two warnings that someone had tried to access my gmail from an unknown device and unknown IP or country... which is what I got before. So this system of Google for protection doesn't work too well. If it doesn't even know it is me trying to access and doesn't even know my IP or country (Madrid, Spain, not the south pole)...

I stll don't know who accessed from a Mac and a Galaxy S4 from my own IP, but the other attacks from unknown IPs and devices was ME...
 

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I'm running out of ideas and knowledge here. You don't need to kill your Google account, just thinking, just reset your phone and put your account details back in and resync to your apps ...that's possible isn't it?
 

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That is why I wonder if the breach has come from Android, maybe from some trojan.
Could very well be, after all Androids are the most susceptible to things like that out of all the hand held devices out on the market.

GMail does offer a free service where it will call or text your phone (cell or landline) if they see a login to your account from an unknown device or IP address which you must reply a nay or yay, if nay the connection is shut down and access denied, after you get this straight if you don't use it you may ought to think about it.

Also if you are getting apps from the Google Play Store, be aware that it in itself is a swamp of malware, could very well be you picked up whatever you may have from there.

Android Security: 8 Signs Hackers Own Your Smartphone

My advice to you (and anyone that owns an Android device) would be to drop the Android and go with something else, Androids whether they be tablets or phones have just too many security flaws and are very easily hacked. This is why if you go to a store, out of all the tablet devices Androids are now among the cheapest ..... at least they are in my area. They were cool when they first arrived on the scene but IMO you could not pay me to own one.
 
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Thanks edee.

Look at Apple and the porn pics hacked from the celebrities. Huge.

And Windows Phone doesn't have many features and apps that Android does. Plus it is Microsoft Windows. King of the world of viruses and proud to be.

I just prefer to stay with Android because it has more things than the others. Things that I really use and value.
 

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If I were you I would get rid of the Chinese Browser and then change both of your gmail passwords I don't know what would posses you to install a Chinese browser if you live in Madrid. If I ever ended up with a computer with a Chinese browser installed I would format it and reinstall Windows, You do realize that the Chinese government monitors all traffic that goes over the web
 

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In addition to the advice above:

- Make sure your wireless router is set to use WPA or WPA2 security, not WEP, which is faulty and easily cracked.

- On google, set your google account to use 2 step authentication, which uses a cell phone app, phone call or text message to provide another layer of security. Just google for "Google 2-Step Verification" to set it up.
 

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If I were you I would get rid of the Chinese Browser and then change both of your gmail passwords I don't know what would posses you to install a Chinese browser if you live in Madrid. If I ever ended up with a computer with a Chinese browser installed I would format it and reinstall Windows, You do realize that the Chinese government monitors all traffic that goes over the web
It's the US government monitoring all of us, and that is not even speculation, that's confirmed by Microsoft, Google, Apple, etc.

The Chinese browser is Chromium with extra handy features, that's why I used it. It is actually much better than chrome.

Now, my hard disk made a brutal noise lately and I was about to send it to repair, but I uninstalled the Chinese browser and the noise is gone by now. If it doesn't return I'll be officially thinking that that Chinese browser is communist spyware with hardware destruction capabilities.
 

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#17
In addition to the advice above:

- Make sure your wireless router is set to use WPA or WPA2 security, not WEP, which is faulty and easily cracked.

- On google, set your google account to use 2 step authentication, which uses a cell phone app, phone call or text message to provide another layer of security. Just google for "Google 2-Step Verification" to set it up.
I use WPA2- AES.

The 2 steps thing I tried it long ago when Google first introduced and quit it soon. It's really annoying to do that all the time. To me, at least.

Many thanks.
 

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And Windows Phone doesn't have many features and apps that Android does. Plus it is Microsoft Windows. King of the world of viruses and proud to be.
In the very near future you will be able to run Android apps on Windows Phones.
 

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The 2 steps thing I tried it long ago when Google first introduced and quit it soon. It's really annoying to do that all the time. To me, at least.

Many thanks.
You can "trust" your computer and devices so that you don't have to enter it all the time. Then you only need it on strange computers and it will leave scallywags who somehow get your password out in the cold.
 

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#20
Secondary Authentication?
 

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