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Solved some questions about upgrading from windows 8.1 to win 10

xdarkmario

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ok so i am currently on windows 8.1 and im trying windows 10 in a VM.

some questions is that


  • if i install windows 10 over windows windows 8.1 would it activate automatically my windows 8 key work?(Purchased windows 8 separately)



  • would my installation be permanent? or when time for windows 10 to officially launches would i be locked out of windows and forced to reinstall? I heard a rumor that people who purchased windows 8 may receive windows 10 as a free update.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Preview
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    HP Envy 6T CTO
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    Intel i5-2467 @1.60 GHz
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    8GB
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    2GB Intel 3000 & 2GB AMD 7670M
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    1366x768

Berton

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First answer? Don't do it yet. Windows 10 is a Technical Preview, a test version. It is not, as the warnings state, intended to be used in production or on your only computer. It will be a few to several months before the finished product is released.

First question, it has its own Product Key.

Second question, it will be permanent until the release of the finished product but it will be quite unstable in various areas although a number of folks are having no problems. I have it on a used computer by itself, preferred not to do the Virtual Machine thing. As far as I know it hasn't been firmed up whether one can upgrade the final product or have clean install. And all I've seen in various sites that rumor is still a rumor, but then Microsoft hasn't been known to give much away, or they could follow Apple with its free upgrade to OS X 10 Yosemite.
 

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Atomic77

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First of all don't believe in everything you read or hear even on the internet until theres proof. I almost messed my windows vista pc up trying a preview of windows 8 back when it first came out. Secondly wait till the final product or a few fixes have come out first before you get it. The first round of a os will always have issues for a lot of people.
 

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CountMike

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Or just make full backup/image of boot disk, install/upgrade W10. That way you can be back to 8.1 in short time.
 

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    Home made
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    AMD Ryzen7 2700x
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    16GB Kingston 3600
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xdarkmario

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so far i have moved it from from a virtual machine to a dualboot partition on my laptop to to really test on my hardware. so far so good. acts great no issues yet. and i dont think i'll be installing over windows 8.1 just yet, i dont want to run the risk of being locked out when comes release day and having to reinstall (something like that happened to me on windows 7 going to 8). but what i may do is when my new TB hard drive comes i may mirror my windows 8.1 and install over it and see how it acts.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Preview
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy 6T CTO
    CPU
    Intel i5-2467 @1.60 GHz
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    2GB Intel 3000 & 2GB AMD 7670M
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768

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R.I.P. Gary
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Don`t dare wipe out your 8.1 ;)

Install it on another drive as you`ve suggested, W10 is nothing to get excited over yet.
 

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yeah.. you got to be joking right? you must know, especially with the way programmers are these days, that you should wait at-least another 3-6 months before you even touch windows 10..

let the "guinea pigs" to do what you are about to do, deal with windows 10 and the problems that will arise for the first 80 patches/security updates/hardware failed detections..

it's good to be on the latest n' greatest front, but have any of the latest things been working until much later?

-apple os (all kinds of issues needed to get fixed..)
-apple ipad/iphone software (missing features and everything problems!)
-windows 8.0 (well. i think you know this one..)
-windows 7 (in the beginning as well)
-etc..
you get the picture..
 

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    i7 quad 4700mq
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    16gig
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    Nvida 755m 2gig
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    Samsung 840 Evo 250gig
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Mark Phelps

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The main problem you'll encounter if you do such an in-place "upgrade" is that you will NOT be able to "downgrade" later to get back to Win8.1; instead, you would have to do a clean install, starting all over again with a fresh copy of Win8.1.

I have Win10TP on a separate disk -- and plan to keep it that way until well after the production release, when I'm finally convinced that Win10 is a worthwhile replacement for Win8.1.
 

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xdarkmario

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the more i look at windows 10 the more i grow impatient and bored of windows 8.1... im really feeling like upgrading to windows 10 now.. that multi desktop feature is my favorite feature in linux and i always wanted id for windows...
also seeing how windows 10 will be a free upgrade im positive that when the final ver comes out we will get a smooth update to final version without reinstalling (i hope)
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Preview
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy 6T CTO
    CPU
    Intel i5-2467 @1.60 GHz
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    2GB Intel 3000 & 2GB AMD 7670M
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
I tried the trial 10 & had a Macrium image of my 8.1.

I didn't want to keep 10 so I reverted to 8.1 with the image with no problems. :)
 

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    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center
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    AMD K140 Cores 2 Threads 2 Name AMD K140 Package Socket FT1 BGA Technology 40nm
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    Avast Internet Security

SaggyMaggyPoo

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the more i look at windows 10 the more i grow impatient and bored of windows 8.1... im really feeling like upgrading to windows 10 now.. that multi desktop feature is my favorite feature in linux and i always wanted id for windows...
also seeing how windows 10 will be a free upgrade im positive that when the final ver comes out we will get a smooth update to final version without reinstalling (i hope)

Sounds like you're likely to do the upgrade, whatever comments you get here.

But it would be wise to heed the advice of experienced people and make sure you have back-ups etc. just in case.

No-one knows exactly what MS will decide to do when they release Windows 10, but almost everyone has an opinion, many of which will be wrong. If you choose to believe that you will be able to upgrade smoothly from whatever Windows 10 preview state you are in when the final product is released, that's your prerogative.

And if you decide to go for it without sensible fall-back plans and it all goes wrong, you will still be able to get support from the wise people on here, they are very understanding of impetuous youth ;)
 

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    Dell Inc. 0010T1 A00
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xdarkmario

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i just did the unthinkable... i upgraded my primary hdd to windows 10...AND I LOVE IT! i dont regret it one bit! and the app crashes and freezes i was getting on windows 8.1 are seemly gone! its Stable and fast and its only a beta! once you get used to the new shortcuts it makes windows a lot better of a place!
also it took my windows 8.1 key and is activated so i dont think ill have to worry about a lockout

see you on tenforums!:thumb::thumb::thumb:
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Preview
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    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy 6T CTO
    CPU
    Intel i5-2467 @1.60 GHz
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    2GB Intel 3000 & 2GB AMD 7670M
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
Hope you made a system image before upgrading. :)
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center
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    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Gateway
    CPU
    AMD K140 Cores 2 Threads 2 Name AMD K140 Package Socket FT1 BGA Technology 40nm
    Motherboard
    Manufacturer Gateway Model SX2110G (P0)
    Memory
    Type DDR3 Size 8192 MBytes DRAM Frequency 532.3 MHz
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    ATI AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics
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    AMD High Definition Audio Device Realtek High Definition Audio USB Audio Device
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    Name 1950W on AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics Current Resolution 1366x768 pixels Work Resolution 1366x76
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    Current Resolution 1366x768 pixels Work Resolution 1366x768 pixels
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    AMD K140
    Cores 2
    Threads 2
    Name AMD K140
    Package Socket FT1 BGA
    Technology 40nm
    Specification AMD E1-1200 APU with Radeon HD Graphics
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    Extended Family 14
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    Instruction
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    Opera 24.0
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    Avast Internet Security

Mark Phelps

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i dont regret it one bit!
You WILL -- just wait.

MS makes MAJOR changes to Win10 each build and a new one is supposed to be coming out this week. The more you like the way things are in Win10 right now, the more you're going to be disappointed when MS removes one or more of those features and replaces them with something you don't like. Every build, folks are posting ways to restore old functionality that MS has removed in recent builds.

Case in point -- their new "start menu". I really liked the old one, even though it was a hybrid between the desktop and tiles interfaces. Then, they went and changed it in the recent built to be metro-only. Not long after, folks posted workarounds to get the old start menu back -- which is what I'm using now. And, with this last build, they moved Windows Update out of Control Panel and into Settings -- something lots of folks don't like.

Win10 is still very much "work in progress"; replacing a stable, working OS with it is asking for trouble down the line.
 

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xdarkmario

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still loving windows 10...
 

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  • OS
    Windows 10 Preview
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    Laptop
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    HP Envy 6T CTO
    CPU
    Intel i5-2467 @1.60 GHz
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    2GB Intel 3000 & 2GB AMD 7670M
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768

CountMike

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still loving windows 10...

RIGHT ... they haven't put out a new build yet and removed some of the things you "love". Just wait ... and see.
Something like that happened to W95, I had beta running for long time and when full version came out most of tools were missing because of Norton.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
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    Home made
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    AMD Ryzen7 2700x
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    Asus Prime x470 Pro
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    16GB Kingston 3600
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    Asus strix 570 OC 4gb
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    Samsung 960 evo 250GB
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    WD 2 TB Blue
    Bunch of backup HDDs.
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adamf

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