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[TONSCHUH]

OC doesn't effect the WEI-Scores, as far I know.

It seems the WEI resets all settings and uses High-Performance power scheme and with the CPU in a normal (factory-highest + turbo) frequency.

The OC frequencies will revert back to your mode after the assessment is finished.

I've monitored this with an underclocking so I suppose it's the same with overclocking... the hardware is tested with all settings to default, without any self-made mods so to speak.

I think you are right.

 

[Dude]

OC doesn't effect the WEI-Scores, as far I know.

It seems the WEI resets all settings and uses High-Performance power scheme and with the CPU in a normal (factory-highest + turbo) frequency.

The OC frequencies will revert back to your mode after the assessment is finished.

I've monitored this with an underclocking so I suppose it's the same with overclocking... the hardware is tested with all settings to default, without any self-made mods so to speak.

Great info there Hopachi

, I didn't know that ​

:thumb:

 

[Hopachi]

Thank you Dude and Tonschuh,

That thing is better noticeable on laptops.

Speaking of laptops, a bit of an update to the WEI score here with an SSD: 8.0 (instead of 5.9 from HDD).

Graphics: just about 6.4 (other drivers had 6.6 it still depends....) but one thing is for sure: if you have dual graphics, Intel HD4000 embedded on CPU and a Nvidia Geforce M, the score would always be done with the embedded (weaker) one, here HD4000 and that's why the gfx score doesn't look too bright when expected.

 

[Dude]

Just installed 8 as a dual boot.
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[dgrona]

 

[Vadikan]

Just ran across this and decided to clarify

It seems the WEI resets all settings and uses High-Performance power scheme and with the CPU in a normal (factory-highest + turbo) frequency.

WEI (or winsat, to be precise) doesn't reset anything. It simply takes a note of the current power scheme GUID, switches to the High Performance scheme for test(s), then restores the power scheme. It's pretty clear from the log located at %WinDir%\Performance\WinSat\winsat.log.

Here's an example from the disk speed assessment.

[COLOR=#0000FF]32619902 (5360) - exe\syspowertools.cpp:0983: > Read the active power scheme as 'a1841308-3541-4fab-bc81-f71556f20b4a'[/COLOR][COLOR=#0000ff]32619918 (5360) - exe\main.cpp:2925: > power policy saved.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#0000ff]32619980 (5360) - exe\syspowertools.cpp:1015: > Set the active power scheme to 8c5e7fda-e8bf-4a96-9a85-a6e23a8c635c'[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#0000ff]32619980 (5360) - exe\main.cpp:2946: > power policy set to maximum.[/COLOR]
32620230 (5360) - exe\main.cpp:0868: > WinSAT info: Version=V6.2 Build-9200.16420
32620230 (5360) - exe\main.cpp:1008: > IsOfficial=TRUE  IsFormal=FALSE  IsMoobe=FALSE  RanOverTs=FALSE  RanOnbatteries=FALSE
32620230 (5360) - exe\main.cpp:4261: > Power 'execution' request successfully set.
32620230 (5360) - exe\main.cpp:1853: > Run Assessment disk -wsswap -drive C:
32620230 (5360) - storage\diskprof.cpp:0161: CCC Support not disabled in registry
32620230 (5360) - storage\diskprof.cpp:0677: DiskProfilerThreadProc Launched with priority 0
32620230 (5360) - storage\diskprof.cpp:0690: ITERATION NUMBER 1
32620230 (5360) - storage\diskprof.cpp:0698: Random seed is 1367113664
32621369 (5360) - exe\main.cpp:4300: > Power request 'execution' successfully cleared.
32621369 (5360) - exe\processresults.cpp:5288: > Wrote wsswap throughput, from the profiler, to the registry 321536
32621369 (5360) - exe\processresults.cpp:5298: > Wrote wsswap interference, from the profiler, to the registry 1114114
32621369 (5360) - exe\processresults.cpp:5375: Skipping Registry Entry for random read disk score
32621369 (5360) - exe\processwinsaterror.cpp:0340: Skipping writing the exit code, cant msg and why msg to registry
[COLOR=#0000ff]32621400 (5360) - exe\syspowertools.cpp:1015: > Set the active power scheme to a1841308-3541-4fab-bc81-f71556f20b4a'[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#0000ff]32621400 (5360) - exe\main.cpp:2987: > Power state restored.[/COLOR]
32621400 (5360) - exe\main.cpp:3002: > Successfully reenabled EMD.
32621400 (5360) - exe\main.cpp:5341: > exit value = 0.

If the screen brightness on your PC varies depending on the power scheme, you can clearly see the change. For example. you have the brightness for Balanced at 60% and for High Perf at 90%. Run any winsat command on Balanced (e.g. winsat disk -ran -read -drive %SystemDrive:~0,1%) and the screen will change its brightness twice.

 

[Hopachi]

Thanks for the details! Yes reset was a bad word to use but the scheme does switch to High Performance when the assessment begins: Yes! screen brightness changes but (mentioning again) if you're one a laptop, just click the battery/power plan icon on the taskbar to see the current scheme.... high performance. That means that the CPU highest value will be from high performance scheme (I use customized maximum CPU level on custom power scheme).

I'm not 100% sure but the switch in power schemes can alter the overclocking someone uses, set the factory settings during assessment and only setting them back after. Many reported that overclocking doesn't count for the WEI score. All suggestions and opinions are still welcome about this.

 

[Vadikan]

Thanks for the details! Yes reset was a bad word to use but the scheme does switch to High Performance when the assessment begins: Yes! screen brightness changes but (mentioning again) if you're one a laptop, just click the battery/power plan icon on the taskbar to see the current scheme.... high performance. That means that the CPU highest value will be from high performance scheme (I use customized maximum CPU level on custom power scheme).

If you look at the log, you'll see that winsat switches not to a High Performance scheme per se, but to a GUID. There are three built-in GUIDs that correspond to three power schemes you get out of the box. If you manage to completely remove the GUID for the High Perf plan (8c5e7fda-e8bf-4a96-9a85-a6e23a8c635c), winsat will display an error and won't run an assessment.

In this case you'd have to restore defaults by importing/exporting the plan from another PC under the GUID above or with a a magic command

powercfg -restoredefaultschemes

I'm not 100% sure but the switch in power schemes can alter the overclocking someone uses, set the factory settings during assessment and only setting them back after. Many reported that overclocking doesn't count for the WEI score. All suggestions and opinions are still welcome about this.

Well, I think it's pretty simple. winsat can't change your overclocking settings, it only switches to High Perf scheme. Then it evaluates performance and assigns grades on the built-in scale. This is what's displayed in WEI in terms of the score.

As for the hardware components info, it's probably taken from WMI. You can get the same info with wmic or PowerShell:

(gwmi win32_processor).name

 

[Hopachi]

Yep, I've seen the GUID's when I imported and exported the power schemes using one of Shawn's tutorials.

Thanks again Vadikan,

It's good to know the details from a professional.

 

[insomniac34]

OC doesn't effect the WEI-Scores, as far I know.

It seems the WEI resets all settings and uses High-Performance power scheme and with the CPU in a normal (factory-highest + turbo) frequency.

The OC frequencies will revert back to your mode after the assessment is finished.

I've monitored this with an underclocking so I suppose it's the same with overclocking... the hardware is tested with all settings to default, without any self-made mods so to speak.

This is false. My 2500k was rated a 7.5 at stock speeds. A 4.5GHz OC bumped the WEI rating of both my CPU and RAM to a 7.9...

 

[Hopachi]

OC doesn't effect the WEI-Scores, as far I know.

It seems the WEI resets all settings and uses High-Performance power scheme and with the CPU in a normal (factory-highest + turbo) frequency.

The OC frequencies will revert back to your mode after the assessment is finished.

I've monitored this with an underclocking so I suppose it's the same with overclocking... the hardware is tested with all settings to default, without any self-made mods so to speak.

This is false. My 2500k was rated a 7.5 at stock speeds. A 4.5GHz OC bumped the WEI rating of both my CPU and RAM to a 7.9...

Thanks for the info!

This is what I've been waiting for since I didn't do any overclocking. So after the last couple of posts and this one I can say that the custom OCs go beyond the power plan's cpu underclocking stuff.

Cheers!

 

[Nathanr411]

 

[paulpicks21]

I take it they have done away with WEI in 8.1 Preview altogether? Cos it certainly ain't there no more!

 

[TONSCHUH]

OC doesn't effect the WEI-Scores, as far I know.

It seems the WEI resets all settings and uses High-Performance power scheme and with the CPU in a normal (factory-highest + turbo) frequency.

The OC frequencies will revert back to your mode after the assessment is finished.

I've monitored this with an underclocking so I suppose it's the same with overclocking... the hardware is tested with all settings to default, without any self-made mods so to speak.

This is false. My 2500k was rated a 7.5 at stock speeds. A 4.5GHz OC bumped the WEI rating of both my CPU and RAM to a 7.9...

I don't get this increased ratings with Windows-8. A further OC of my GPU's doesn't change a thing either.

 

[Hopachi]

I take it they have done away with WEI in 8.1 Preview altogether? Cos it certainly ain't there no more!

I've heard Winsat.exe it's still there but not working...
They will be adding the function back in the release, most likely.

 

[Hopachi]

It seems the WEI resets all settings and uses High-Performance power scheme and with the CPU in a normal (factory-highest + turbo) frequency.

The OC frequencies will revert back to your mode after the assessment is finished.

I've monitored this with an underclocking so I suppose it's the same with overclocking... the hardware is tested with all settings to default, without any self-made mods so to speak.

This is false. My 2500k was rated a 7.5 at stock speeds. A 4.5GHz OC bumped the WEI rating of both my CPU and RAM to a 7.9...

I don't get this increased ratings with Windows-8. A further OC of my GPU's doesn't change a thing either.

This still remains a mystery.

 

[TONSCHUH]

This is false. My 2500k was rated a 7.5 at stock speeds. A 4.5GHz OC bumped the WEI rating of both my CPU and RAM to a 7.9...

I don't get this increased ratings with Windows-8. A further OC of my GPU's doesn't change a thing either.

This still remains a mystery.

Doesn't really matter for me, as there are just not enough info's about it, how it calculates this scores.

 

[4rtt64ressss]

I'm still not sure if I should upgrade to Intel, or just buy an AMD FX cpu...

 

[TONSCHUH]

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I'm still not sure if I should upgrade to Intel, or just buy an AMD FX cpu...

If you can afford it, go for Intel. A 4770k-System is not more expensive than a 3770k-System, so just go for the latest tech.

 

[JC8865]