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aem

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Those that uses RDP would know that a proper disconnection or logoff of a session is necesaary. But with WDP there is no such power options. Just the good old click on X to close connection.

Hopefully in the RTM version this will get rectified.
 

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Yes, it has been annoying me. Oh well. Having multiple favourites in an easy to access location is nice.
 

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From an IT Support point of view this is a top 5 must have feature . I waiting to see how this is rectified, could it be this DP version a Starter version :dinesh: but RDP exists so how can it?
 

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While this needs to be fixed --surely from an IT point of view it's up to the REMOTE connection to chuck a user off / log out when a connection has been idle for so many minutes.

Can you imagine logging in to a Production type ERP system say SAP for example and then leaving your terminal logged on and going away for an hour or so.

Just my take on this

Incidentally the Power options on W8 include sleeping the computer after so many mins, turning off monitors / Disks etc etc.

Go to Power options in control panel -- switch to desktop view once you've got into the control panel.

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That depends. Most workplaces should probably have a policy in place that would check on BOTH ends if a connection is idle and disconnect it, but for more personal / recreational use, and for professional operation, it would make sense to have a more easily accessible disconnect option.
I know that by right clicking the top of the screen and pressing the X button, the server will disconnect, but I wasn't actually aware that it didn't have the option to log off the remote computer... Perhaps this is something that could be done server-side?
 

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While this needs to be fixed --surely from an IT point of view it's up to the REMOTE connection to chuck a user off / log out when a connection has been idle for so many minutes.

You mean the enduser logging off the remotely connected session of his or her machine? If so when and how would that person know when to do it, and usually when a computer is remote accessed the screen is locked and a non admin account would have issues unlocking it. As for RDPing to a server, logging off is mandatory after finished so that other support staff can remote in especially when the max rdp session has been reached.
 

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jimbo45

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You obviously haven't understood the post

I Said the REMOTE system should know when to disconnect the user --nothing to do with the person who actually logs on.

All the remote system needs to do is to see how long a connection has been idle and if it exceeds a pre-determined time - say 10 mins on a production system it just disconnects the connection --doesn't even NEED to know who the remote user is .


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What do you mean by remote system, the computer you are remoting to?

This is about logging off an RDP session after you have used it, in the appropriate manner. Enduser are effected if you disconnect the session not logging off properly. As said before you do not leave your RDP session to expire after a period of time on it's own. This is not IT practice.
 

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I would have thought that was fairly obvious -- you are talking about RDP so presumably that means YOU as the user (Client) are logging on to a remote computer which in effect is acting as a SERVER (even if it's only another computer running a basic Windows OS).

The computer you are trying to log on to is the REMOTE orr "Server" side computer and this should have enough logic in it to disconnect an idle connection.

The computer you are currently using is known as the Local or Client computer.

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I would have thought that was fairly obvious -- you are talking about RDP so presumably that means YOU as the user (Client) are logging on to a remote computer which in effect is acting as a SERVER (even if it's only another computer running a basic Windows OS).

The computer you are trying to log on to is the REMOTE or "Server" side computer and this should have enough logic in it to disconnect an idle connection.

The computer you are currently using is known as the Local or Client computer.

The Local computer doesn't have of course to log you off but the remote server should log off after a period.

It definitely IS standard practice when connecting to remote servers such as ERP systems (SAP etc) or even your online Banking system to time users out after a certain period of inactivity -- and if you say this is NOT standard I.T practice I'd hate to have your consultants running my servers !!!!!

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aem

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jimbo45, i have been working in Support for more than 10 years, and i know what i'm talking about. My argument has nothing to do with self disconnection. It's got to do with when i am done on a RDP session i am to manually log it off.

My pc and the remote pc i am RDPing to has nothing to do with server or client connections. Any PC with RDP agent can RDP to another machine and by having such tool does make it a server.

"It definitely IS standard practice when connecting to remote servers such as ERP systems (SAP etc) or even your online Banking system to time users out after a certain period of inactivity ".

Why are you going off the tangent? this thread is about RDP logoff and disconnect option. NOT group policy or how you set the remote session to self disconnect.

No one would just leave an RDP session openned for it to self timed out to disconnect. This is not from the enduser but from the Support staff end.
 
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aem, is it at all possible at this stage to log off before you disconnect? That would be a temporary fix to your problem.
 

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Hi Av, it's isn't my problem really lol, was just an observation that if Windows 8 was to be made into RTM that this should need to be addressed. To answer your question you can go into a command prompt and use the logoff command i suppose.
 

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Well I just found it interesting, because I know that on my 2 servers I am able to log off and/or lock the computer (from the Start Menu) before I disconnect... Even though it would be nice to have it automatically done, I am unable to tell, as I have no backend access to the servers.
 

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AEM,
Not sure if this has been fixed yet or if maybe its just how my W8 is setup but I can log off & power down (or reboot) from my sessions.

I'm testing a virtual environment with about 65 w8 instances so I'm happy to get you an IP address if you want to see how I set things up.

Essentially I went in and hit "adjust for best performance" on the advanced settings tab, enabled the start menu from the registry and turned off & disabled themes from "manage my computer". Looks exactly like an out-of-the-box W7x64 now.
 

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Disconnecting a session leaves what you are doing still running, logoff by actually logging off your RDP connection would end what you're currently doing on that session wouldn't it?
 

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Disconnecting a session leaves what you are doing still running, logoff by actually logging off your RDP connection would end what you're currently doing on that session wouldn't it?

Yes.
Disconnect = Lock
Log off = same as logging off on a local machine
Shut Down = same as shutting down on a local machine
 

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