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Previewing ‘Windows 8’

REDMOND, Wash. – June 1, 2011 – Today, at the D9 Conference, we demonstrated the next generation of Windows, internally code-named “Windows 8,” for the first time. Windows 8 is a reimagining of Windows, from the chip to the interface. A Windows 8-based PC is really a new kind of device, one that scales from touch-only small screens through to large screens, with or without a keyboard and mouse.

The demo showed some of the ways we’ve reimagined the interface for a new generation of touch-centric hardware. Fast, fluid and dynamic, the experience has been transformed while keeping the power, flexibility and connectivity of Windows intact.

Here are a few aspects of the new interface we showed today:

•Fast launching of apps from a tile-based Start screen, which replaces the Windows Start menu with a customizable, scalable full-screen view of apps.
•Live tiles with notifications, showing always up-to-date information from your apps.
•Fluid, natural switching between running apps.
•Convenient ability to snap and resize an app to the side of the screen, so you can really multitask using the capabilities of Windows.
•Web-connected and Web-powered apps built using HTML5 and JavaScript that have access to the full power of the PC.
•Fully touch-optimized browsing, with all the power of hardware-accelerated Internet Explorer 10.

We also showed effortless movement between existing Windows programs and new Windows 8 apps. The full capabilities of Windows continue to be available to you, including the Windows Explorer and Desktop, as does compatibility with all Windows 7 logo PCs, software and peripherals.
more at: Microsoft News Center
 

BriceH

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I sure hope that every Windows 8 application will be able to run in the Windows 7-style UI. If not, I envision a lot of power users being drawn to Linux. What does everyone else think?
 

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Everlong

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I sure hope that every Windows 8 application will be able to run in the Windows 7-style UI. If not, I envision a lot of power users being drawn to Linux. What does everyone else think?

Err, I just think people will just stay on Windows 7.
 

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BriceH

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Err, I just think people will just stay on Windows 7.
You're probably right. I have a feeling that I will always dual-boot Windows 7 and 8. I just wonder what will happen if programs start to be written to require certain Windows 8 features.
 

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Rolf

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You're probably right. I have a feeling that I will always dual-boot Windows 7 and 8. I just wonder what will happen if programs start to be written to require certain Windows 8 features.

I wonder what features windows 7 will have that windows 8 won't. Otherwise I don't see a need to dual-boot...:smug:
 

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24c

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If history is any teacher, I install Win 8 and not look back. Bring on the beta.
 

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Lebon14

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I'm not buying the tile thingy...
 

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SmartEyeball

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Windows 8 is a reimagining of Windows

*shudder*

The word reimagining scares me. Not a lot of good has come from this word...

I'm not buying the tile thingy...

After trying out Unity and Gnome 3, I'm a little wary myself.

This big push for touch orientated GUIs is fine if you are using a touch capable device, but so far it's not so great for desktops.
 

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baarod

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I agree and also think that the smug marginalizing of Microsoft as an "enterprise company" by Google's Eric Schmidt ignores the fact that Windows is the dominant interface to computer technology on the planet by a wide margin. I, personally, am more productive in Windows as opposed to the glam of MacOS or the geek of Gnome. I do have a soft spot for K for the ambitious ideas and many of the ridiculously talented developers but it's only a second choice. If this were Nirvana we'd have the Amiga developers back from the dead for another round.
 

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davefinster

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And for those of us who tried using a Windows phone, and gave it up because touch-screen is no fun if you suffer from peripheral neuropathy in your fingers, Windows 8 tiles don't sound at all appealing...
 

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Jav

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I sure hope that every Windows 8 application will be able to run in the Windows 7-style UI. If not, I envision a lot of power users being drawn to Linux. What does everyone else think?


[video=youtube;FY_vV8SoYgU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY_vV8SoYgU[/video]

Fast-forward to 3:00

There is a mention that it is a possibility to switch to "desktop mode?"
 

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Dave76

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The new desktop GUI will surface soon.

That looks good for a tablet, might get use to it, will have to try it out.
At least we have an option to use the desktop, if not that would likely be a deal breaker for many.
 

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Jav

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We actually still have normal start menu, taskbar, desktop...

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EDIT: From all things Digital blog:
Exclusive: Making Sense of Our First Look at Windows 8 – AllThingsD

Windows 8 essentially supports two kinds of applications. One is the classic Windows application, which runs in a desktop very similar to the Windows 7 desktop.

The other type of application, which has to be written in HTML5 and Javascript, looks more like a mobile application, filling the full screen. Internet Explorer 10, which is part of Windows 8, has already been configured to run in this mode, as have several widget-like apps for checking stock prices and weather.
 

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davefinster

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Thanks for the encouraging word! I missed that part, somehow!
 

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severedsolo

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This big push for touch orientated GUIs is fine if you are using a touch capable device, but so far it's not so great for desktops.

That is what worries me. They seem to be pushing the whole ARM/Touch/Tablet thing, I just hope that they don't "forget" us Desktop users.

Also do not like the "classic Windows 7" Desktop UI. Full transparency is not good.
 

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davefinster

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I kind of like the Start Menu because even with a lot of Windows open, I can still look for something else I need. The "tiles" on the phones always struck me as being a throwback to Windows 3.1...
 

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johnwillyums

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I take it everyone has seen this:

YouTube - ‪Building "Windows 8" - Video #1‬‏

There seems a definite emphasis on the touch ui and the whole thing looks to be aimed at mobile devices. At one point there is a familiar looking gui and his fingers look a bit clumsy using it.
At this point I'm distinctly unimpressed with the tile launch page. I like a nice wallpaper and then on to speed dial on my browser of choice (currently Nightly and Chrome). I imagine I will be happy with it eventually though:D

---------- Post added at 09:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:20 PM ----------

*shudder*

The word reimagining scares me. Not a lot of good has come from this word...



After trying out Unity and Gnome 3, I'm a little wary myself.

This big push for touch orientated GUIs is fine if you are using a touch capable device, but so far it's not so great for desktops.

Agreed. I found Unity unusable as yet.
 

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Muad Dib

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A touch GUI is fine, if not necessary, for mobile devices, etc.

But I am a bit leery that 3rd party apps developer emphasis will be on the flash of the touch GUI to the deteriment of the "traditional" mouse/keyboard GUI. Ever try to do photo touchup with a touchscreen? Hmmm.....

Also for desktop ergonomics, try a little exercise...... reach up and touch the screen once every 3 seconds for a few minutes. Users may switch from being concerned about carpal tunnel to suffering from monitor elbow...... :shock:
 

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BriceH

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If anyone has been able to find footage of Windows 8 running on a laptop or desktop (any machine that uses a mouse instead of touch input), could you please post it here?
 

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Lebon14

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If you are doing a touch UI for mobil device such as smart phones, tablets, etc... I'm OK with it. But for a desktop, beside those all-in-one PCs, I haven't seen any retail monitors being touch screens. The only touch screens I've seen are on newegg and those are 15" CRT more oriented to business. Really, touch IS NOT for desktop. If Microsoft makes that move, I'm sorry to say but, it'll be a failure and people will actually stay on Windows 7.

I can't say it enough : keyboard+mouse >>>> touch
 

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