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Playing music, computer freezes and Admin Event errors


highstream

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Win 8x64. I play music a lot with foobar2000 - mp3 files, CDs - most often but not always using its ASIO/JPlay device and driver; i.e., I also use JPlay (service + process + settings - JPLAY - hi-end audio player for Windows). Lately, I've had some computer freezing problems and that's why I write. For example, before leaving for the weekend, I played music for 13 hours, no problem. Returning home yesterday, starting the computer and then the music in exactly the same fashion, within minutes I started getting a string of computer freezes, all occurring when music was playing.

On a previous occasion, I had run a few malware scans that turned up nothing, so I tried to isolate the problem by removing pieces step by step, starting with getting JPlay out of the way, so it was foobar alone, but none worked (my working hunch has been that the problem is foobar itself or the ASIO/JPlay combo getting corrupted somehow). Finally, I uninstalled and reinstalled foobar again and it played ok, although I didn't let it go for long enough to be sure. Then I added JPlay and things seemed ok for awhile, then came back after 90 minutes to find a freeze.

Looking at Admin Events, I notice the following happening a lot, at startup and maybe also related to when the crashes occur:

- The Open Procedure for service "WmiApRpl" in DLL "C:\Windows\system32\wbem\wmiaprpl.dll" failed. (1008)
- Windows cannot load the extensible counter DLL rdyboost (1023)
- The Open Procedure for service "MSDTC" in DLL "C:\Windows\system32\msdtcuiu.DLL" failed. (1008)
- The Open Procedure for service "Lsa" in DLL "C:\Windows\System32\Secur32.dll" failed. (1008)
- The Open Procedure for service "ESENT" in DLL "C:\Windows\system32\esentprf.dll" failed. (1008)
- The Open Procedure for service "BITS" in DLL "C:\Windows\System32\bitsperf.dll" failed. (1008)

I ran sfc /scannow as admin and it apparently fixed some things and said it couldn't fix others. See the screenshot below, as well as the CBS log file. Any ideas? Thanks.

(You may ask why I'm raising it here. Mainly, because I'd like to figure out if Windows has become corrupted or is producing the problem. There's also extreme hostility over at foobar re use of other players, specifically JPlay.)

Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3, i7 2660K cpu, 16gb RAM

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2013-07-22 11:28:59, Info CBS TI: --- Initializing Trusted Installer ---
2013-07-22 11:28:59, Info CBS TI: Last boot time: 2013-07-22 11:08:26.494
2013-07-22 11:28:59, Info CBS Starting TrustedInstaller initialization.
2013-07-22 11:28:59, Info CBS Ending TrustedInstaller initialization.
2013-07-22 11:28:59, Info CBS Starting the TrustedInstaller main loop.
2013-07-22 11:28:59, Info CBS TrustedInstaller service starts successfully.
2013-07-22 11:28:59, Info CBS No startup processing required, TrustedInstaller service was not set as autostart
2013-07-22 11:28:59, Info CBS Startup processing thread terminated normally
2013-07-22 11:28:59, Info CBS Starting TiWorker initialization.
2013-07-22 11:28:59, Info CBS Ending TiWorker initialization.
2013-07-22 11:28:59, Info CBS Starting the TiWorker main loop.
2013-07-22 11:28:59, Info CBS TiWorker starts successfully.
2013-07-22 11:28:59, Info CBS Universal Time is: 2013-07-22 17:28:59.154
2013-07-22 11:28:59, Info CBS Loaded Servicing Stack v6.2.9200.16613 with Core: C:\Windows\winsxs\amd64_microsoft-windows-servicingstack_31bf3856ad364e35_6.2.9200.16613_none_6273bd8950d6cae2\cbscore.dll
2013-07-22 11:28:59, Info CSI [email protected]/7/22:17:28:59.173 WcpInitialize (wcp.dll version 0.0.0.6) called (stack @0x7fc48d26429 @0x7fc4e6895ca @0x7fc4e644d64 @0x7f6b43ed1df @0x7f6b43ed95c @0x7fc56792005)
2013-07-22 11:28:59, Info CSI [email protected]/7/22:17:28:59.173 WcpInitialize (wcp.dll version 0.0.0.6) called (stack @0x7fc48d26429 @0x7fc4e6e5e9c @0x7fc4e6a7349 @0x7fc4e644ed7 @0x7f6b43ed1df @0x7f6b43ed95c)
2013-07-22 11:28:59, Info CBS SQM: Initializing online with Windows opt-in: False
2013-07-22 11:28:59, Info CBS SQM: Cleaning up report files older than 10 days.
2013-07-22 11:28:59, Info CBS SQM: Requesting upload of all unsent reports.
2013-07-22 11:28:59, Info CBS SQM: Failed to start upload with file pattern: C:\Windows\servicing\sqm\*_std.sqm, flags: 0x2 [HRESULT = 0x80004005 - E_FAIL]
2013-07-22 11:28:59, Info CBS SQM: Failed to start standard sample upload. [HRESULT = 0x80004005 - E_FAIL]
2013-07-22 11:28:59, Info CBS SQM: Queued 0 file(s) for upload with pattern: C:\Windows\servicing\sqm\*_all.sqm, flags: 0x6
2013-07-22 11:28:59, Info CBS SQM: Warning: Failed to upload all unsent reports. [HRESULT = 0x80004005 - E_FAIL]
2013-07-22 11:28:59, Info CBS NonStart: Set pending store consistency check.
2013-07-22 11:28:59, Info CBS Session: 30312192_4081815742 initialized by client WindowsUpdateAgent.
2013-07-22 11:30:59, Info CBS Trusted Installer is shutting down because: SHUTDOWN_REASON_AUTOSTOP
2013-07-22 11:30:59, Info CBS TiWorker signaled for shutdown, going to exit.
2013-07-22 11:30:59, Info CBS Ending the TiWorker main loop.
2013-07-22 11:30:59, Info CBS Starting TiWorker finalization.
2013-07-22 11:30:59, Info CBS Ending the TrustedInstaller main loop.
2013-07-22 11:30:59, Info CBS Starting TrustedInstaller finalization.
2013-07-22 11:30:59, Info CBS Ending TrustedInstaller finalization.
2013-07-22 11:30:59, Info CBS Ending TiWorker finalization.
 

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You have a soundcard that uses ASIO?

Well, you can test it is it the Audio hardware, by installing VLC Media Player - Set it up to use the ASIO driver for Audio, you have to go into preferences and show "all" - Then go to Audio and check the box for "Use S/PDIF when available" - That should shunt your audio through the S/PDIF into your ASIO, there are also other settings to choose ASIO - If you go to "Output Modules" you will be able to choose that ASIO device in the settings for DirectX and WaveOut.

Then play a few MP3's and see if it hangs up at all, I would stick a whole playlist in there and run it for at least half an hour. This will at least tell you if the Audio device is working correctly.

You should also check your settings in the program you are using, make sure it is finding the device and using it properly, and not using "Microsoft Soundmapper"
 

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highstream

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No sound card. Ciunas USB dac + its Amanero USB driver + ASIO driver on the other end should do. Note I was able to replicate the freeze without using foobar's ASIO component driver, i.e., just using the Dac's driver and device setting for such in foobar. Not sure what all this has to do with the Windows errors.
 

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    Sapphire Ultimate HD7750
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You said you were using ASIO, which is associated with high-end sound cards like Gina, Gadget Labs and Digi, which all use either S/PDIF or Optical cable. Ok, so it's a USB device. Same thing applies, try using VLC, set VLC to use the audio properties of the USB device, see if it locks up during playback.

Even though it's a USB device, it uses S/PDIF:

https://sites.google.com/site/jkciunas/home


The S/PDIF setting in VLC just tells the program to use the Digital Audio Out. In my case, this is through the HDMI cable into my Monitor, but I still have to use the S/PDIF setting to get it to work. In your case, it will be through your USB device.

But it sounds like it's the program that's causing this, not the hardware. If you say it still has problems even with the ASIO shut off, then it's the program. I'll see if I can install Jplay into my system, I'm getting the trial version now.

Ok - I see now, that's one damn good player. All I have to do is right-click and copy my WAV files and it gives me the best, uncoloured playback I've heard. I am not even using any other player, you said you were using Foobar to select the tracks? What if you just used Explorer instead don't run Foobar at all? Maybe it is the interaction between Foobar and Jplay. Jplay doesn't need any other Audio Programs running. When I installed it, it went right in, no errors. here is how I set it:

jplay.png

As you can see I'm just using the Audio from my Video Card, I had to set Bitstream to Native before it would play - Native is 24 bit, thats how I set it up in the Audio Settings.

Have you tried changing these settings? I wanted you to try using another player just to see if your Audio device was choking, I don't use ASIO in that system at all but I use it in my Digi system. Maybe I'll set it up in there and tell it to use my Digi to play it back, that will take a while to set up.
 
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highstream

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Hmm, still not clear. I have VLC. Looking under Audio, I see the s/pdif setting but don't see anything indicating the Dac/Amanero driver. In addition, where does the ASIO driver come from? My understanding looking around online is that VLC doesn't support ASIO. I know Zoom Player Pro doesn't, but it does show the Amanero driver under Playback > Audio and handles it admirably (no computer freezes, no buffer size related cutouts).

Since you've referenced the Ciunas site, please see item 2 under Recommendations: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wDx7OgkhEdFPYoTQdiSF-uJKwzaXZCbAluAQ9Vl_0gw/edit. To use JPlay with foobar2000, one installs the recommended ASIO driver (foobar) and then sets device to ASIO/JPlay. See Manual | JPLAY - hi-end audio player for Windows (Using JPlay with foobar 2000).

I would like to know about the Windows errors and what to do to fix them.
 

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    i5 4690K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD5H-BK3 (rev. 1.2) UEFI Bios
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    16 GB (4x4)
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    Sapphire Ultimate HD7750
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    Dell U2412M
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    1920x1200
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Do you NEED that ASIO driver at all? maybe that's the culprit. I think it comes with your device. Maybe you don't need Foobar...

In VLC, the settings are here, under Output Module:

You'll want to sheck "32-bit float" as well.

vlc-dx.png

You also have to set the "WaveOut" as well - Your device should show up in those two areas. It MAY just say "ASIO Driver"


As far as the windows errors, you ran SFC /scannow, and it fixed some but not all of the problems. You MAY have to do an in-place install to repair the rest of them.

I use a Program called "Yamicsoft Windows 8 Manager" and it has some extra repair settings you can try... you can download it from Yamicsoft, they give you a 15 day full working trial.

repaircenter.png

Going through those errors again, does it freeze only when using Foobar, or when using Jplay too? I would just install Jplay by itself, you don't really need foobar to play the files, you can set up a playlist by right clicking in Explorer. as I had no trouble installing Jplay, it may be foobar, I'll have to get that too. It may just be a setting in your ASIO panel that one of these programs doesn't like.

To make sure, I would just do an In-Place Install, because once I start seeing those kinds of errors, sometimes that's the only way to deal with them. Does it affect any other programs you run?
 

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    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
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    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
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    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
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    "1842 x 1036"
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    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
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highstream

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Thanks, but I don't see how this is helping solve the problem I posed. I found what you're referring to in VLC and it plays with the Amanero, but there's no ASIO. VLC does directly not support ASIO. Look it up for yourself if you don't believe me.* I don't expect any freezing with VLC, just as there wasn't any with Zoom Player (and Zoom Player's sound quality is much better than VLC's).
* e.g., see the 3rd and 4th posts at The VideoLAN Forums • View topic - VLC 2.0.1: Not possible to change Audio- Outputdevice :(

Among reviewers at least, foobar2000 is considered the best of the free music player/libraries. JPlay (and others?) use foobar's play and library functions as a foundation, while taking it over sonically and, in my and many others' opinions, improving it (a big fight not for here). Hence, the ASIO/JPlay driver.

Please, the topic of this thread is the slew of Windows errors I'm getting, along with their possible relationship to the freezes. That's why I posted on a Win 8 forum. May we please stick to that? Thanks.
 

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    16 GB (4x4)
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    Sapphire Ultimate HD7750
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Read the last part of my last post, not all of your errors were fixed by SFC /scannow,it could not fix all of them. When that is the case you have little left you can do other than in in-place install. The program I suggested has one other repair function, it restores all of your original system files, depending on if you check or uncheck "skip hidden files" or "Files signed by Microsoft". If that doesn't fix it, then you'll have to do an in-place install, or a full re-install. In any case, get your Windows 8 install disk out and get ready to do an In-Place Install.

I was trying to get you to isolate which one of your programs were causing the problems. Jplay doesn't even need any other player, and I don't know anything about foobar. You don't need Jplay if you are just using Foobar. I was trying to find out if any of these programs would cause a conflict within your system the way you have it set up now, and if your audio setup may be causing it due to not being set up properly or maybe there is some other conflict.

Maybe the Audio stuff has nothing to do with the errors at all, and I would try repairing the system first by trying the Repair Center in Yamicsoft, and if that fails, an In-Place install.

Look FooBar uses some kind of SQL server? That might be what's corrupted. Whatever database FooBar uses, that's what those SQM errors are from. So, it may not be a Windows 8 problem at all, but just to make sure, try those repairs I suggested just to get that out of the way. If you don't want to try the Yamicsoft program, then just do an IN-Place Install from a Windows 8 Install disk from within the Windows 8 GUI.

FooBar SQL Server 2008 install

Ok I just got back from the doctor, and now I can spend some hours looking into this. I think your Problem is with FooBar, and with whatever version of SQL you have. I found an interesting discussion here:

backup restoration - Fresh SQL Server DB restore works most times, but fails sometimes - Server Fault

So I'm going to look for any discussions about Foobar that relate in any way to what's happening to you.
 
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    AMD 4400+/4200+
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    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
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    2 GB/3GB
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    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
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    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
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    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
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    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
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    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
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    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
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    MSI "M-Box"
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    Water Cooled
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    Dell Keyboard
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    Microsoft Intellimouse
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    Cable Medium Speed
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    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
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    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.

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I was so focused on the VLC stuff that I missed your other discussions. I tried Yamicsoft's repair center - system components, wmi, scan - but the latter came up with the same scan result. An in-place install is a clean install, right? That and reinstalling all my apps is not a short afternoon project. I noticed and wondered the same thing about the SQM errors re foobar. One thing I've tried today is running foobar as admin, so far without any freezes, but it's not been that long.

I see you added JPlay trial.* I don't Consider adding foobar, installing the ASIO component driver and seeing what you get and what it sounds like. Don't know if JPlay's Kernal Streaming will work with your set up, but it's said to be better. If it's like mine(dac), you'll notice a difference, starting with having to readjust the volume control. In any case, I'm not glued to foobar, but it's there is a ASIO driver and it's awfully convenient to have all one's music folders down the left side and just choose what one wants (if you try, ask about the set up if needed). Before foobar (and the Ciunas), I was using a file manager. Oh, and I don't use JPlay mini because it's not so convenient and it doesn't have a ready volume control; the Ciunas is a no-control dac (run out the back of my computer on the floor with two USB adapters to eliminate a USB cable). JPlay buffer size hasn't affected the freeze problem.

*N.B. A rude annoyance of the trial is that after some variable number of days the sound will stop randomnly for a couple of minutes.
 

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  • OS
    Win 8.1 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    DIY
    CPU
    i5 4690K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD5H-BK3 (rev. 1.2) UEFI Bios
    Memory
    16 GB (4x4)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire Ultimate HD7750
    Sound Card
    JCAT USB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2412M
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB SSD
    Seagate 3TB, 2TB & 1TB HDDs
    PSU
    Seasonic x650 PSU
    Case
    Cooler Master Elite 335
    Cooling
    Prolimatech Megahalems Rev. C cooler, 3 Nexus Silent Fans
    Keyboard
    IBM Model M
    Mouse
    Bornd Wireless Mouse
    Internet Speed
    60+ mbps claimed
    Antivirus
    Comodo CIS, MBAM Pro
    Other Info
    PS Audio Directstream dac, Quad 12L powered speakers, Core Audio Tech Kora LPS, JCAT USB card, Uptone Regen USB

highstream

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#11

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    DIY
    CPU
    i5 4690K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD5H-BK3 (rev. 1.2) UEFI Bios
    Memory
    16 GB (4x4)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire Ultimate HD7750
    Sound Card
    JCAT USB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2412M
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB SSD
    Seagate 3TB, 2TB & 1TB HDDs
    PSU
    Seasonic x650 PSU
    Case
    Cooler Master Elite 335
    Cooling
    Prolimatech Megahalems Rev. C cooler, 3 Nexus Silent Fans
    Keyboard
    IBM Model M
    Mouse
    Bornd Wireless Mouse
    Internet Speed
    60+ mbps claimed
    Antivirus
    Comodo CIS, MBAM Pro
    Other Info
    PS Audio Directstream dac, Quad 12L powered speakers, Core Audio Tech Kora LPS, JCAT USB card, Uptone Regen USB

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#12
I'm just trying to be thorough, if we know that your Audio system is fine, then we can focus on Windows 8.

An In Place install will replace any system files that have been corrupted. It will not delete any of your programs or users or personal documents or videos, it just puts a fresh install of 8 into the system. But it has to be done from the Windows 8 GUI.

I always do SFC /scannow first, the Windows Manager repair second, and if I have to, I'll do an in-place install. In some odd circumstances, I've had In-Place Installs totally fail to run. But if SFC will work, so will an in place install.

Regardless of which version of Foobar being used, 1) It has had those issues in the past, and 2) It seems to depend on some kind of SQL server.

I'll bet its this SQL server which is causing your errors. You can always see what version is installed by lookin in your "Add/Remove Programs" area in Control Panel.

Oh Yah, there is an update for MDAC in MS Downloads somewhere, Microsoft Data Access Components, if you need it, it will be offered as a download in your updates, check your history and see if it's ever been downloaded and installed.
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.

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#13
I don't know for sure if my music system is ok, since as I wrote in the OP one day or two it works and the next I'm facing some kind of major problem.

By version, are you referring to SQL server? I have 547 entries in C drive with 'sql' but none in the Programs list (CP).

Do you have a favorite site with instructions for an in place install of 8? I've been searching google and duckduckgo for instructions, but am only finding upgrades from 7 to 8. Thanks,
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    DIY
    CPU
    i5 4690K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD5H-BK3 (rev. 1.2) UEFI Bios
    Memory
    16 GB (4x4)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire Ultimate HD7750
    Sound Card
    JCAT USB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2412M
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB SSD
    Seagate 3TB, 2TB & 1TB HDDs
    PSU
    Seasonic x650 PSU
    Case
    Cooler Master Elite 335
    Cooling
    Prolimatech Megahalems Rev. C cooler, 3 Nexus Silent Fans
    Keyboard
    IBM Model M
    Mouse
    Bornd Wireless Mouse
    Internet Speed
    60+ mbps claimed
    Antivirus
    Comodo CIS, MBAM Pro
    Other Info
    PS Audio Directstream dac, Quad 12L powered speakers, Core Audio Tech Kora LPS, JCAT USB card, Uptone Regen USB

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#14
Well, you have a Windows 8 install disk? There are tutorials on this site for doing an in-place install, look in the Tutorials section.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/26095-repair-install-windows-8-a.html

Yah that's what you want, I've done it twice on both of my 8 Machines, it's pretty painless. If you use your same Windows Key, you'll have to call in a Phone Activation- IF it wants to be reactivated. It may or may not, the Tutorial will have more info.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.

highstream

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#15
Thanks! It was the 3rd party apps needing to be reinstalled that makes it more than a short afternoon. I've got ~125.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    DIY
    CPU
    i5 4690K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD5H-BK3 (rev. 1.2) UEFI Bios
    Memory
    16 GB (4x4)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire Ultimate HD7750
    Sound Card
    JCAT USB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2412M
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB SSD
    Seagate 3TB, 2TB & 1TB HDDs
    PSU
    Seasonic x650 PSU
    Case
    Cooler Master Elite 335
    Cooling
    Prolimatech Megahalems Rev. C cooler, 3 Nexus Silent Fans
    Keyboard
    IBM Model M
    Mouse
    Bornd Wireless Mouse
    Internet Speed
    60+ mbps claimed
    Antivirus
    Comodo CIS, MBAM Pro
    Other Info
    PS Audio Directstream dac, Quad 12L powered speakers, Core Audio Tech Kora LPS, JCAT USB card, Uptone Regen USB

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#16
Yah, you'll be able to keep em all doing an In Place Install - It's been like this for Vista through 8, only Windows XP allows you to do an In-place install by booting from the install disk. Don't know why they did it that way, it makes it hard to fix a broken OS.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.

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#17
So are you suggesting using a custom recovery image as well?
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/3610-refresh-windows-8-create-use-custom-recovery-image.html
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/2293-refresh-windows-8-a.html
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/9310-refresh-windows-8-set-custom-recovery-image-active.html

"When you refresh your PC, this basically repairs Windows 8 by reinstalling it while keeping your files, Store apps, most of your settings, etc..... However, all installed 3rd party desktop apps will be removed. If you like, you could create a custom refresh image to not lose anything, but this will require creating new custom refresh images every so often to keep it updated to not lose anything since the last image was created."
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    DIY
    CPU
    i5 4690K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD5H-BK3 (rev. 1.2) UEFI Bios
    Memory
    16 GB (4x4)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire Ultimate HD7750
    Sound Card
    JCAT USB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2412M
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB SSD
    Seagate 3TB, 2TB & 1TB HDDs
    PSU
    Seasonic x650 PSU
    Case
    Cooler Master Elite 335
    Cooling
    Prolimatech Megahalems Rev. C cooler, 3 Nexus Silent Fans
    Keyboard
    IBM Model M
    Mouse
    Bornd Wireless Mouse
    Internet Speed
    60+ mbps claimed
    Antivirus
    Comodo CIS, MBAM Pro
    Other Info
    PS Audio Directstream dac, Quad 12L powered speakers, Core Audio Tech Kora LPS, JCAT USB card, Uptone Regen USB

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#18
Not unless you already have one made... No, basically, you stick your Windows 8 Install disk into your optical drive and just hit 'Setup'- OR, you use a windows 8 installer on a flash drive. It has to be the exact same version you got. Follow the instructions in the tutorial. this is a different process than running refresh or restore.

You are basically installing Windows 8 over the top of what's already there - So you keep all of your Program Files, documents, etc. and most of your drivers, maybe all of them. You'll only lose any updates, unless you decide to download them during the install - I never do this, I always install fresh, because maybe an update caused a problem. That's why I set an extra restore point before I download updates in case I have to roll it back.

I've done this with Windows XP about a thousand times, Vista at least a hundred, and Windows 7 quite a few times as well, I've done it for 8 about 4 times, I've never lost a single program, file, or setting.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.

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#19
Thanks! When you say it has to be the exact same version, I assume you're referring generally to the Windows version, not to its current update state; i.e., updates still have to be done at the end. Right?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    DIY
    CPU
    i5 4690K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD5H-BK3 (rev. 1.2) UEFI Bios
    Memory
    16 GB (4x4)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire Ultimate HD7750
    Sound Card
    JCAT USB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2412M
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB SSD
    Seagate 3TB, 2TB & 1TB HDDs
    PSU
    Seasonic x650 PSU
    Case
    Cooler Master Elite 335
    Cooling
    Prolimatech Megahalems Rev. C cooler, 3 Nexus Silent Fans
    Keyboard
    IBM Model M
    Mouse
    Bornd Wireless Mouse
    Internet Speed
    60+ mbps claimed
    Antivirus
    Comodo CIS, MBAM Pro
    Other Info
    PS Audio Directstream dac, Quad 12L powered speakers, Core Audio Tech Kora LPS, JCAT USB card, Uptone Regen USB

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#20
If you have "Windows 8 Pro with Media Center" than that's what you gotta have. Since there are no service packs, the disks should all be the same at this point. If you have Pro, you need a Pro disk, Home, Home disk. 32 bit, 64 bit. it's gotta be the exact same OS. Usually you can determine this by the Build Number on the Disk itself. If you need help determining this, I'll ask our leader Shawn to help.

With Windows 7, sometimes you can use the newer disk. Say if you have Win 7 Ultimate, you can use the Ultimate with SP1 to do the repair install. I've done that a few times when it was all I had. But with 8, there are no service packs.

You can decide to download all of the updates at the beginning of the install process, it shows you in the Tutorial. I never do that though, I always assume one or two of the updates are bad, reinstalling without adding the updates allows me to discover which ones are bad.

Look, I think I know what is going on with you, you have trepidations, so you are just making sure. If the Windows 8 Install disk you have is the wrong one, it simply will not work. You need help determining if you have the right disk? I understand, I have three different versions laying around and I get them mixed up. But I also encourage you not to worry, an In Place Install is a safe opreation.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.