Not connecting to Network

GMan

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Catching me off guard with that question. Alright.

1) Type services.msc in the Start menu then press Enter. Disable IPHelper service. Disable Homegroup services.

2) See my previous screenshot on how to set sharing properties. http://www.eightforums.com/network-sharing/5417-not-connecting-network-4.html#post81163

(Easiest and best for this, is to make sure all machines have same user name and password.)

3) On all machines, open Windows Explorer. It's different for 7, 8 but if you apply yourself, you'll eventually be able to figure out differences. (Questions are fine if needed.)

On 8: Open ribbon. See Brink's tutorial if needed to do that.

Then View | options | Change folder and search options

When that opens, click View tab. Scroll to bottom and uncheck the box for "Use Sharing Wizard (Recommended)"

Click OK so it saves.

On 7: The process is similar. I'm on 8 at the moment, so can't say precisely.

4) On any machine, go to Windows Explorer (same as "My Computer" or "Computer", where you can see all of your hard drives.)

8: Click "Map network drive" then in the folder box put: \\remotepcname\share name

For example: \\Computer1\sharing1

Note: On the remote computer 1, you have to set the folder or drive you want to share as well, with permissions for Everyone. This is done in Windows Explorer.



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Honestly, I am going to stop right here, because although it is simple for me, it is extremely hard to convey with proper meaning. It is complicated, but simple in practice. You just have to know. See what you can do with this and please tell us or ask us anything at all you want!

This is why MS made Homegroup, but if it can not work for you, you're stuck without help. :( But we try our best!
 

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DrPower

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Oh, I know what you mean now. I agree that's the way I prefer to share files too.
Turning off IPHelper seemed to help. Other devices not show up under Network, but it still says I'm not connected to a network and I can't remote connect. Which I would very much like to be able to do.
 
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Calico

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Yes that strange IP address "fe80::e291:f5ff:fe02:5f95%14"
right before your default gateway has me confused, not sure what that is but I've seen it before.

It's an IPv6 linklocal address.

@ DrPower - Please do the following and report back:

1. From a command prompt type arp -a
2. From a command prompt ping the ip address of another pc on your lan
3. From a command prompt type net view
4. path to \Windows\system32 and type nbtstat -nc
5. Open services.msc and check the status of the Network Location Awareness service (NlaSvc) if stopped please start.
 

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1)................................................................................................

Interface: 192.168.1.102 --- 0xe
Internet Address Physical Address Type
192.168.1.1 e0-91-f5-02-5f-95 dynamic
192.168.1.2 00-26-55-61-e0-0b dynamic
192.168.1.4 c8-aa-21-49-5a-4e dynamic
192.168.1.7 00-1f-a7-49-d5-c7 dynamic
192.168.1.99 00-12-3f-6e-d7-e9 dynamic
192.168.1.106 00-25-9c-74-98-26 dynamic
192.168.1.255 ff-ff-ff-ff-ff-ff static
224.0.0.2 01-00-5e-00-00-02 static
224.0.0.22 01-00-5e-00-00-16 static
224.0.0.252 01-00-5e-00-00-fc static
239.255.255.250 01-00-5e-7f-ff-fa static
255.255.255.255 ff-ff-ff-ff-ff-ff static

2)..................................................................................................


Pinging 192.168.1.99 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.99: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.99: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.99: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.99: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128


Ping statistics for 192.168.1.99:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

3)..................................................................................................


Server Name Remark


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
\\BRANDON-PC
\\READYSHARE NETGEAR WNDR3700
The command completed successfully.


4)..................................................................................................

Wired Ethernet Connection:
Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.102] Scope Id: []


NetBIOS Remote Cache Name Table


Name Type Host Address Life [sec]
------------------------------------------------------------
READYSHARE <20> UNIQUE 192.168.1.1 515

5)...............................................................................................

The Network Location Awareness service is running. (Set to Automatic)
 

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Calico

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Thanks for that. It appears the problem is just with the status information in Network and Sharing Centre, as the physical network is available and can be seen. Can you:

From a command prompt - type net use \\{computer name\{share name}

Where computer name is a computer on your network and share name is a share on that computer.
 

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C:\WINDOWS\system32>net use \\SERVER\SHARE
Local name
Remote name \\SERVER\share
Resource type Disk
Status OK
# Opens 0
# Connections 1
The command completed successfully.
 

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Calico

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C:\WINDOWS\system32>net use \\SERVER\SHARE
Local name
Remote name \\SERVER\share
Resource type Disk
Status OK
# Opens 0
# Connections 1
The command completed successfully.

So, now we just have to find out why the status is incorrect. Are you using any third-party security applications?
 

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DrPower

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No, not currently.

Well here's what happened: I previously had SpyBot-S&D installed then something went wrong, I'm not sure exactly what, and I used Windows 8's Refresh ability. This removed the program. Could Windows have uninstalled it incorrectly, thus causing the issues?
 

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Calico

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No, not currently.

Well here's what happened: I previously had SpyBot-S&D installed then something went wrong, I'm not sure exactly what, and I used Windows 8's Refresh ability. This removed the program. Could Windows have uninstalled it incorrectly, thus causing the issues?

It's certainly possible, but we'd have to know what changes spybot makes to the network settings to know for sure. From what I've seen on the Spybot forums, running their application with Windows 8 is not guaranteed to work. There's a couple of things worth trying:

1. Change the network settings for your PC from dynamic IP address to static IP address/Gateway/DNS - reboot and test.
2. Export the following registry key and attach here - HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\NetworkList

Also, please check the permissions on that key.
 

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Switched to static settings, no change.

Permissions are as follows:


Administrators:
Full Access, Read

netprofm:
Read, Special Permissions
 

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Calico

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Switched to static settings, no change.

Permissions are as follows:


Administrators:
Full Access, Read

netprofm:
Read, Special Permissions

Under the registry key (NetworkList) there are two subkeys:

Profiles
Signatures\Unmanaged

Can you delete everything under both of those and then restart
 

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Calico

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Huzzah! I think you've done it!
:dinesh:
Thank you so much!

Would you mind terribly explaining exactly why that worked?

Truth is, it was a bit of a long shot. I believe there was an inconsistency between the GUID specified in the signature and the profile. deleting these values gave the system a chance to 'rediscover' it's surroundings.

I hope it's all working now.
 

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GMan

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Niiiiice Calico.
 

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Sinbad

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Hi, I just bought a new computer with Windows 8 installed, and plugged in an ethernet cable to my D-link DIR655 router. If I set a static IP address, it worked. If I set it to get an IP via DHCP it never obtained an IP address from my router. I found no solution online, so finally downloaded wireshark, and found that Windows 8 was sending DHCP IPV6 to my router, which was not responding to the IPV6 version of DHCP. I tried disabling IPV6 on that interface in Windows 8, but it still sent out DHCP IPV6. Finally I found that the D-link website had an update for my router's firmware that resolved unnamed IPV6 issues, so I installed the update, and now it all works fine. It seems like a bug that you can't get Windows 8 to use DHCP IPv4. Maybe I just didn't do something correctly. In any case, problem solved. Hopefully this will help someone else.
Cheers,
Sinbad
 

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