No Windows 9

OldGuyGeek:

In Windows 10, you can switch between the Start Menu and the Start Screen. But for right now, you have to log off and log back in again to do it. As others have said, you can run all the Windows 8 apps from the new Start Menu, but I would like to have both available at the same time. Case in point, if I am out and about on my Yoga, I make want to use the Start Screen but when I have it in laptop mode, I may want to use the Start Menu.


Well i could live with that, but isn't it better to wait for Windows9, because for Windows 10 i must know if compatible with Windows 8 computers.

thanks

Jeff

Hi there. There won’t be a Windows 9. The next edition is 10.

So far as system requirements for now with the Preview:

Windows 10 Technical Preview - Clean Install
 

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Hi HippsieGispsie,

Well i did not now that, but will jump in the boat.

forgot to ask. Do i need UEFI or is this just optional?

thanks

Jeff
 

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Doesn't the Windows 7 Start menu have a bunch of other stuff on the right side, various functions and ways to access parts of the OS (control panel, devices, documents, etc.), that would now be occupied by the live tiles in Windows 10? So the live tiles are going to take their place, and that won't be coming back? Or are they going to manage to put all that stuff in there somehow so we have the best of both worlds?
 

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Windows XP - August 2001
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Windows Vista - November 2006
Windows Server 2008 - February 2008
Windows 7 - October 2009
Windows 8 - August 2012
Windows Server 2012 - September 2012
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Windows 10 - 2015
 

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Hi HippsieGispsie,

Well i did not now that, but will jump in the boat.

forgot to ask. Do i need UEFI or is this just optional?

thanks

Jeff

Either way. It's all in the tutorial I linked above.
 

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Doesn't the Windows 7 Start menu have a bunch of other stuff on the right side, various functions and ways to access parts of the OS (control panel, devices, documents, etc.), that would now be occupied by the live tiles in Windows 10? So the live tiles are going to take their place, and that won't be coming back? Or are they going to manage to put all that stuff in there somehow so we have the best of both worlds?

Your speaking of My Computer, Control Panel, My Docs, etc that was on the right side of the Start Menu. Not sure if they will, but they don't have to be live tiles. I would think you could create tiles of any of those links to place there instead so to be similar.

I haven't got 10 installed yet, for I'm having hardware problems.
 

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Major Microsoft Windows versions according to Wikipedia


Windows 1.0 - November 1985
Windows 2.0 - December 1987
Windows 3.0 - May 1990
Windows 3.1 - 1992
Windows for Workgroups 3.11 - 1992
Windows NT 3.1 - 1992
Windows NT 3.51 - 1993
Windows 95 - August 1995
Windows NT 4.0 - July 1996
Windows 98 - June 1998
Windows 2000 (Windows NT 5.0) - February 2000
Windows ME (Millennium Edition) - September 2000
Windows XP - August 2001
Windows Server 2003 - April 2003
Windows Vista - November 2006
Windows Server 2008 - February 2008
Windows 7 - October 2009
Windows 8 - August 2012
Windows Server 2012 - September 2012
Windows 8.1 - October 2013
Windows 10 - 2015


Nice!!! Say Me an Vista were two i did not like.
 

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Maybe I'll wait for Windows 10.1. ;)
 

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Yes H.G.

i read the tutorial, but what is the advantage for me to install with UEFI, does this improve the computer or what.

I ask this because i have 256 gb with Windows on, but a smaller partition has my main folders which i really do need.

So if i have to remove everything, i hate that, even when i have 3 B.U. already.

If there is no advantage, i will not use something i do not need.

thanks

Jeff
 
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Yes H.G.

i read the tutorial, but what is the advantage for me to install with UEFI, does this improve the computer or what.

I ask this because i have 256 gb with Windows on, but a smaller partition has my main folders which i really do need.

So if i have to remove everything, i hate that, even when i have 3 B.U. already.

If there is no advantage, i will not use something i do not need.

thanks

Jeff


Jeff you are probably correct for yourself, Faster systems with SSD etc. do benefit and some of the newer motherboards come with graphical UEFI/BIOS with many many Options .You have to have UEFI to use secure boot there are benefits that I don't have an understanding of. I have UEFI on my Notebook came with it and the wife's HP touchscreen also came with it. its not available on my WS running Asus P7P55-E Pro boards however these board do support GPT somehow as I put in a 3TB internal hard drive for back ups and it automatically installed as GPT
 

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thanks Clint

so i will install Windows 10 with UEFI

Jeff
 

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Fully Customizable

Doesn't the Windows 7 Start menu have a bunch of other stuff on the right side, various functions and ways to access parts of the OS (control panel, devices, documents, etc.), that would now be occupied by the live tiles in Windows 10? So the live tiles are going to take their place, and that won't be coming back? Or are they going to manage to put all that stuff in there somehow so we have the best of both worlds?

Your speaking of My Computer, Control Panel, My Docs, etc that was on the right side of the Start Menu. Not sure if they will, but they don't have to be live tiles. I would think you could create tiles of any of those links to place there instead so to be similar.

I haven't got 10 installed yet, for I'm having hardware problems.

True. 10 comes with Documents, Pictures, PC Settings and File Explorer as your default entries just under your name. But you can add most stuff to this section. For example, since it was in the Window 7 menu, I dragged music from the music icon in file explorer and hovered over the start icon. Moved it up into the top section where it displayed the 'pin to start menu'. Of course it worked as you would expect.

However, I tried to do the same for the Control Panel, but it wouldn't let me drop it there. But I could drop in into the tile area. It created a square tile that can be handled like any other tile, just with two sizes, small and medium. But, if you use the old way, you can go into the Taskbar Navigation properties and click on the Start Menu tab. Then choose the Customize button at the bottom.

Screenshot (6).png

It seems to me to be a more robust version of the Start Menu. You can customize it quite a bit. You can even drag the top of it to make it larger so you can see more tiles. Of course, that could get overdone as well. Or you could eliminate most of the tiles leaving you with a single column. Look familiar???
Screenshot (1).jpg
 

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    Intel I-7 860
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    Asus P7B
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well install went smooth. Did not take much time, strange from an USB stick.

Anyway UEFI is now ok, but I do not get 4 partitions, one is missing...strange, should be 3 system partitions, but no only 2...do not ask me why.

But Windows 10 is certainly faster then Windows 8.1.

Now if Stardock could make the Objectdock to work here, I can hide the very very old taskbar....

But I am happy with Windows 10, next will be Windows 20 I guess....

Jeff
 

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    INTEL CORE I--3770K LGA1155
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    ASUS P8Z77-V
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    KINGSTON 2400 MHZ KHX24C11K4 16GB
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I'm anxiously waiting for the download to finish !

:)
 

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That's gotta be the most awkward start menu I've ever seen. To shut down, you've got to click on Start, then drag your mouse all the way to the top to get at the power button...
 

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  • OS
    Windows 7
True. 10 comes with Documents, Pictures, PC Settings and File Explorer as your default entries just under your name. But you can add most stuff to this section. For example, since it was in the Window 7 menu, I dragged music from the music icon in file explorer and hovered over the start icon. Moved it up into the top section where it displayed the 'pin to start menu'. Of course it worked as you would expect.

However, I tried to do the same for the Control Panel, but it wouldn't let me drop it there. But I could drop in into the tile area. It created a square tile that can be handled like any other tile, just with two sizes, small and medium. But, if you use the old way, you can go into the Taskbar Navigation properties and click on the Start Menu tab. Then choose the Customize button at the bottom.

It seems to me to be a more robust version of the Start Menu. You can customize it quite a bit. You can even drag the top of it to make it larger so you can see more tiles. Of course, that could get overdone as well. Or you could eliminate most of the tiles leaving you with a single column. Look familiar???

Thanks for that, OldGuyGeek! :thumb: Just as I suspected that 10 would be the most configurable OS to date. The Start Menu is, well, just a start. :D
 

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    Acer T690
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    Intel Pentium D Dual Core
    Motherboard
    Acer/Intel E946GZ
    Memory
    2GB (max upgrade)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3000 - PCI Express x16
    Sound Card
    Integrated RealTek ALC888 high-definition audio with 7.1 channel audio support
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer AL1917W A LCD
    Screen Resolution
    1440 X 900
    Hard Drives
    350 GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.10
    Thumb drives
    PSU
    Standard 250 watt
    Case
    Desktop 7.2" (183mm) W x 17.5" (445mm) L x 14.5"
    Cooling
    Dual case fans + CPU fan
    Keyboard
    Acer Windows PS/2
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    Wireless Microsoft Arc
    Internet Speed
    54mbp/s
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    IE11
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
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That's gotta be the most awkward start menu I've ever seen. To shut down, you've got to click on Start, then drag your mouse all the way to the top to get at the power button...

May I suggest WinKey > Down arrow key > Enter > Enter? That should be shut down which should be the first item in that menu.

Perhaps they should move it to the bottom and expose the Shut Down button as they did in 7. WinKey > Right arrow > Enter. :)
 

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    Intel Pentium D Dual Core
    Motherboard
    Acer/Intel E946GZ
    Memory
    2GB (max upgrade)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3000 - PCI Express x16
    Sound Card
    Integrated RealTek ALC888 high-definition audio with 7.1 channel audio support
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer AL1917W A LCD
    Screen Resolution
    1440 X 900
    Hard Drives
    350 GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.10
    Thumb drives
    PSU
    Standard 250 watt
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    Desktop 7.2" (183mm) W x 17.5" (445mm) L x 14.5"
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    Dual case fans + CPU fan
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Got 10 on a HP laptop. Downloaded the iso and installed with net disconnected, no need for any ms registration. Installed very fast. Went online and got updates & it quickly found all needed drivers, everything works. Technically, stable and very positive.

About the new functions, will see over time. Nice to get a semblance of a real start menu (they finally adjusted to reality!), and nice to be able to have (cr)apps in windows, may even maybe find a few of them useful some day, although (from a pc\keyboard\mouse standpoint) am still finding (most of) them to be anemic & pale ghosts of real programs (of course can be useful on tablets). & IE fonts still looks like mud compared to other browsers.

Most importantly: my stock trading program, Photoshop, Classic Shell & Firefox works, so all is fine :p
 

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    FF
OlGuyGeek,

you lost me, what do you mean with the Control Panel?

You can just pin it to start or taskbar, if that is what you want.

Jeff
 

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    WINDOWS 8.1 x64
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    INTEL CORE I--3770K LGA1155
    Motherboard
    ASUS P8Z77-V
    Memory
    KINGSTON 2400 MHZ KHX24C11K4 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    INTEL HD GRAFICS 4000
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philip BDL3245€ 32 inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    2 SAMSUNG 840 PRO RAID 0 ON BOARD 2 x 128 GB
    Keyboard
    LOGITEC MX™ 5500
    Mouse
    LOGITEC MX 5500
    Internet Speed
    120 Mbps
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