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No, really, how to Admin rights?


artician

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Win 8 won't let me delete a folder on C. Yes, I know, but it's necessary. I'm using my "Administrator" user account, I've taken ownership of the folder, added myself to the Audit section of folder permissions, given my user "Full Control" of the folder and files, and am still denied. I rebooted to “safe mode” where it doesn’t give an error when deleting via console, it just ignores my command after entering Y at the prompt.

Can anyone confirm there is actually a way to do this?

 

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wiganken

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Is the folder empty of files? Try deleting all files in the folder first then try deleting the folder.
 

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Barman58

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Also if the folder is one of those Owned by the TrustedInstaller account, normally under windows folder or one of the folders in that tree, (the account is used for security virtualization - advanced protection), the a regular tokenized Administrator account may not have the capability to delete the actual folder,[ you could try running an instance of explorer.Exe elevated which may work, but may not].

You would need to activate the Hidden Master administrator, use this account to clean up and then deactivate the Administrator account to future protect the OS

Built-in Administrator Account - Enable or Disable in Windows 8
 

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artician

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Beautiful. Hidden Admin. That's one thing none of the "admin/access denied" articles even mention. I was already the owner of the folder, and I'm not trying to delete anything out of Windows; just a folder in the root. The folder in the root is a bootable image for Windows, however, that I was prepping for USB install. I think Windows got confused.
I'll let you know how it goes. Thank you again.
 

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Barman58

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#5
The reason that you may have an issue with anything at the root of a drive that is more complex than a text log file, is due to our old friends, the malware writers, they found that they could hide things in the root of a drive to assist with their nefarious tricks, changes to the structure of the Root drive on Windows and the Hidden Admin were introduced with vista to close some of the many loopholes that were discovered and used in XP (which of course was designed for a safer age) ;)
 

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Barman58

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#7
Well, that is something I never known of before, except in a few very rare cases where someone added a "deny" rights to a folder that contained everyone, I can remember this was on a server so the system wall fully managed into groups including one that contained everyone on the server, whilst setting up security the site admin set a deny attribute for Everyone on a particular folder tree.

In the end It took a re-install to get rid of the locked Folder tree.

I was under the impression that the Hidden administrator on normal windows systems was exempted from being a member of any group expressly to prevent this type of lockout, so I would have to say that this is caused a glitch of software or maybe even Disk itself

I can only suggest that you try to ignore the folder until you have time, and a need to refresh your system, If you can remove the contents (files and folders), the empty folder will not impact on other operations.

One other method is to try a Linux Live install, this should allow you to see and edit files and folders on the Windows NTFS file system but without being limited by permissions as windows is - Linux distros are many and varied, but Ubuntu and Mint are two that are often recommended
 

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    Crucial 256GB SSD,
    WDC WD30EZRX-00D8PB0 3TB,
    Toshiba HDWD130 3TB
    Seagate ST2000DM001-1CH1 2TB,

    External (USB3)
    Seagate Backup+ Hub BK SCSI Disk 8TB
    2.5/3.5 Hot Swap Cradle, USB3 + eSata (client HDDs)

    NAS
    Seagate ST4000DM000
    PSU
    Aerocool Templarius Imperator 750W 80+ Silver
    Case
    AeroCool X-Warrior Devil Red Tower
    Cooling
    Stock CPU, Rear 120mm, Front 2x120mm, Side 2x120mm
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless K710 & K270
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    Logitech Wireless M710 M185 & M570 Trackball
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