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pstrg

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Trying a new board - ASUS Prime B450M Gaming
No beep, no image, but fan spins.
If memory is removed, board beeps as it should - thus there's some interaction between board and cpu.
Tried another PSU, same symptoms.
Any idea?
 

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TechnoMage

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Incorrect RAM, or bad ram.
Also, try to do a power OFF reset to the CMOS.
Check all power connections.
Has to be something simple.
:cool:
 

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SCANNERMAN

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Trying a new board - ASUS Prime B450M Gaming
No beep, no image, but fan spins.
If memory is removed, board beeps as it should - thus there's some interaction between board and cpu.
Tried another PSU, same symptoms.
Any idea?
ASUS B450 is generally a good budget board. Is your AMD CPU an APU? or are you using a discrete graphics card. Also some kinds of RAM won't work with AMD boards although this is rarely the case these days. I would need a little more information about your system before I could make any further suggestions. What sort of CPU are you using and what kind of memory, capacity, and drive are you using?
 

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pstrg

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ASUS B450 is generally a good budget board. Is your AMD CPU an APU? or are you using a discrete graphics card. Also some kinds of RAM won't work with AMD boards although this is rarely the case these days. I would need a little more information about your system before I could make any further suggestions. What sort of CPU are you using and what kind of memory, capacity, and drive are you using?
Thank you for the reply.
Tried more before replying.
CPU is Ryzen 3 3200G
Memory is 2 × HyperX HX424C15FB/4
SSD is Kingston SA400S37/240G
Installed a video board - no output from it either (VGA and HDMI)
Really puzzling...
 

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pstrg

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Finally back home, I have been able to pinpoint the problem.
As you suggested, it was a memory issue.
I had installed the same pair of HyperX HX424C15FB/4 that used to work fine on both A320 and B450 ASUS and MSI boards but not on this one.
Plugged another pair of the same memory and it went on.
It seems that somehow both parts became faulty - not fully dead perhaps, but faulty.

Thank you very much for your help.
 
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SCANNERMAN

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Aaah. That is unfortunate. Memory can be fickle that way. There are some good software programs that can run intensive tests on your memory. If you have the patience you could run your onboard memory test from "BIOS" or one of these more advanced scans to check your RAM. Kingston is generally pretty good about replacing bad memory modules. At least that has been my experience. AMD Ryzen3 3200G is a good little chip and easily overclockable. The last one I installed for a build clocked to 4.00 Ghz right out of the box with standard Corsair Vengance LPX RAM. The good thing about that chip is it's an APU so even without a graphics card you still can enjoy your PC while you save up for a good quality GFX card. Affordable too. I built an ASUS TUF B450-PLUS rig with a 3200G in it three years ago for a client and they're still gaming on it today. At any rate it sounds like you got the right combo for the right board. If that memory is on the QVL for that model of board and you've already tested it and found memory errors I would suggest contacting Kingston. Glad I could be of some help. If you have any other concerns or questions don't hesitate to ask. :)
 

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TechnoMage

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I used to work with a professional Memory seller, at the Market Pro Computer shows, and I've heard him say, more times than I can recount, that Kingston buys second grade chips from major ram manufacturers and put it on their own boards. I won't touch Kingston ram!
Or for that matter, anything that has the name 'Kingston' on it. Sorry!

Always buy only "Micron" ram, from "Crucial" and you'll have no problems. It's all I've used for over a decade now, with Never a failure.
Cheers mate!
TM (retired computer tech and PC builder) :cool:
 

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SCANNERMAN

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The older high end Kingston RAM is generally pretty good. I've never had a problem with it and I have a lot of Kingston RAM. I did have a low end Kingston SSD brick on me once after many years of use but that's pretty much it. That said, I wouldn't be buying any of their new stuff now because due to the "chip shortage" just about everyone is using inferior silicon these days, including Samsung, who recently got caught at it. Kingston and ADATA got caught doing this too and I was told that even Western Digital was doing it. As for memory, if you can get it, Samsung B die is superb. This doesn't mean you have to buy Samsung memory for the B die. Many big names use it, or at least used to use it in manufacturing higher end RAM. As for big names, I learned my lesson about being a brand name fan ages ago. Best to always check under the hood before you buy. Of course, now with DDR5 on the market everything's a game changer. Early adoption is always a gamble, but that's something that should be left to another thread.
 

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    AMD 3800X, Intel 6900K
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    X99 E-WS USB 3.1, CROSSHAIR HERO VIII
    Memory
    128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR, 32 GB TEAM GROUP T FORCE
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    NVIDIA 1070, SAPPHIRE RX 590 NITRO+
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    SAMSUNG 32"
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TechnoMage

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I've had customers that called me with exactly the same problem that was the title of this thread.
And every time, it turned out to be a cheap PSU with a blown 5v line.

I've also had complaints that turned out to be "Bad Ram". Or was it? Actually it turned out to be Dirty Ram.
On the older ram, the output pins on the sides of the chips could get dirt down between them, effectively shorting out the chip.
So before I would throw away a stick of ram that checked BAD, I'd wash it, with soap and water, using an old tooth brush to really scrub the chips and their little pins.
After a good washing, and rinsing in hot water, I'd dry the stick as good as I could and then rinse again with Denatured Alcohol, and dry again.
Finally I'd put the ram back into the motherboard and try it again. In most cases, it would work like NEW again.

I have an old eMachine, that has four RAM sockets on the motherboard. One of those sockets is BAD. Any ram that I plug into that socket will test BAD.
So now, I just don't use that one socket, and I have a little old PC that runs like new, for the first time in years.

Cheers Mates!
TM :cool:
 

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    Acer
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    Crucial, 4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDEA GeForce 9200
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Acer
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    Sandisk, SSD 500GB
    PSU
    Acer
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    SFF Slimline
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    emachines 101 key
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless
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    5 Meg
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    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
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