New Windows 8.1 ISOs with November Rollup (Update 3)

Microsoft has unleashed new ISOs for it's Windows 8.1 operating system for MSDN subscribers, which includes the recent November Rollup Update, also known as Update 3. Much like when Windows 8.1 Update 1 came out, the ISOs include all the latest updates which is handy for those who frequently reinstall and dislike the update process.

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I like to run it on real hardware so I can see real performance and any possible issues with my hardware.
 

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Hi there

OK then the easy way would be to take an image backup of your system before you start and then if it doesn't work or you want to revert back simply RESTORE the image of the old OS.

Backing up a system these days on decent hardware is only about 15 - 20 mins work -- same amount of time for a restore --you only need to backup the OS itself (and any hidden / boot partition). I assume you keep the OS on its own partition away from data drives etc.

I am not a fan of Dual booting -- invariably causes grief later on.

For a lot of people though using a VM is a good idea.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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Yes VM's are a good option. I have nothing against using them in certain situations. You asked why so I answered. :)

I don't game on my laptop so it's just Windows, Office and a couple of apps to install. For me It's a great test unit for 10. I'd have to see something aw inspiring to make me want to redo my desktop and reinstall all my games in 10. I'm not a big fan of upgrade installs. I almost always end up with issues that make me want to start over with a clean install. Been there did that, don't want to do it again. I'm also not all that fond of dual boots.
 

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I'm currently quintuple booting with no problems. (knock on wood!)
 

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I like to run it on real hardware so I can see real performance and any possible issues with my hardware.

I'm with U homes....... got what I need and don't need to "experiment" on my only working laptop. Don't need no advice on system backup image's either, do that in my sleep.

Us "peeps" do things our way, I don't have all those fancy banners under my name but have enough knowledge to do what i need, smirks..

The question WAS not so much "tryin" this 10, it WAS about the install key.
 

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So it seems you can only get the Windows 8.1 ISO with the November updates through MSDN? I was a bit shocked to find my ISO download from here - Create installation media for Windows 8.1 doesn't include them :shock:

In the process of doing an OS reinstall and see I have a lot more updates to do - including the 8.1.1 update :(

EDIT: Never mind seems I did get the 8.1.1 update and a few others. I just saw the watermark and assumed it was the older ISO.

I'm good.

Got the ISO using this method. Did it twice and both times, SHA1 checksums did not match. Does Microsoft purposely add stuff into the ISO after you've dled it thru their dl client, like IP address info and stuff, thus allowing them to track ISO sharers, but destroys SHA1 checksums?
 

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I'm not sure what you're asking but the ISO I downloaded was good as noted in my edit. As for adding stuff - that happens all the time in the form of Windows Updates - a normal procedure that should happen.

Again, I somewhat lost on your question. Sorry.
 

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I feel I sound ridiculously ignorant, but if we have a fully perfectly functioning system, what is the advantage of recreating the ISO short of having the latest and greatest immediately? (wont these be distributed through Windows updates)?:think:
 

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In a simple statement... it would make reinstalling the OS (if the need arises) a lot easier, and a lot less hassle in downloading gigs of updates.
 

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I'm not sure what you're asking but the ISO I downloaded was good as noted in my edit. As for adding stuff - that happens all the time in the form of Windows Updates - a normal procedure that should happen.

Again, I somewhat lost on your question. Sorry.

The question was, how come I dled the same ISO twice within 24 hrs and got a different SHA1 checksum each time?
 

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You aren't downloading an iso. It is a compressed esd file. It is downloaded, decrypted, extracted and an iso is created on your machine.

That is why the hashes will never be the same.

MSDN files are different. They are iso files with install.wim.
 

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You aren't downloading an iso. It is a compressed esd file. It is downloaded, decrypted, extracted and an iso is created on your machine.

That is why the hashes will never be the same.

MSDN files are different. They are iso files with install.wim.

Yup, this whole encrypted ESD thing is just stupid. What was wrong with normal downloads like we had at digitalriver?
 

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You aren't downloading an iso. It is a compressed esd file. It is downloaded, decrypted, extracted and an iso is created on your machine.

That is why the hashes will never be the same.

MSDN files are different. They are iso files with install.wim.

Well than, I'm also enlightened. Cool :thumbsup:
 

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Microsoft has unleashed new ISOs for it's Windows 8.1 operating system which includes the recent November Rollup Update, also known as Update 3. Much like when Windows 8.1 Update 1 came out, the ISOs include all the latest updates which is handy for those who frequently reinstall and dislike the update process.
Hi Brink,
could please check this information at the following web site and confirm, they say that the Update 3 is already included in the Windows 8.1 iSO download from Microsoft: superuser
At the following Microsoft link there is the update mentioned in the superuser forum which should already be included in the ISO: Update 3.
Thanks in advance.
 
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Hello looked, :)

Yes, it would be included. The ISO from Microsoft would be for the latest version of Windows 8.1.
 

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Yes, it would be included. The ISO from Microsoft would be for the latest version of Windows 8.1.
But the Update 3 was released in November 2014 while ISO torrents (looking specifically for torrents due to my internet connection) I can find claim to be updated to 2017 so that means these ISOs include the Update 3 plus more recent updates?
Thanks very much for help.
 

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Correct. They will be more up to date.
 

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Correct. They will be more up to date.
Excuse me if my question is dumb, but if I install 2018-05 Security Monthly Quality Rollup KB4103725 does that mean it includes ALL previous updates since Windows 8.1 with update 3 was released?
KB4103725
 

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No. Only since the last rollup.

Personally, I just install any available update via Windows Update to stay up to date.

Once fully updated, you could create a system image (ex: Macrium Reflect). This way if needed, you could restore the image to be up to date since the last time the image was created.
 

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