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Windows 8 users face patch spigot shutoff in 7 months

Windows 8 users have a little less than seven months to move to Windows 8.1 or be cut off from Microsoft's stream of security updates.
Windows 8 users face patch spigot shutoff in 7 months - Techworld


8. Why are you requiring Windows 8 customers move to Windows 8.1 two years after the General Availability?

Historically, we’ve had a similar support approach related to Windows service packs; when a Windows service pack is released, Microsoft provides customers 24 months of support for the prior service pack or original RTM version. Unlike service packs that are typically just a collection of fixes, Windows 8.1 has new features and enhancements. We designed Windows 8.1 to give customers an ability to deploy this update in a manner that is similar to how customers deploy service packs, therefore we are applying the existing service pack support policy to Windows 8.1.

Windows 8.1 does not change any hardware requirements compared with Windows 8 or Windows 7 and existing Windows Store apps will work with Windows 8.1. The update has little to no impact on existing desktop apps and there is no direct software cost because business customers with Software Assurance licensing will receive Windows 8.1 as a free update. For organizations running legacy applications that need to be upgraded, there are tools to manage deployment in order to help mitigate cost and impact.
Windows Products Support Lifecycle FAQ


Products Released
Lifecycle Start Date
Mainstream Support End Date
Extended Support End Date
Service Pack Support End Date
Notes
Windows 8
10/30/2012
1/9/2018
1/10/2023
1/12/2016
Customers have 24 months to move to Windows 8.1 after General Availability in order to remain supported. See the Windows 8.1 FAQ for more information.
Windows 8 Enterprise
10/30/2012
1/9/2018
1/10/2023
1/12/2016
Customers have 24 months to move to Windows 8.1 after General Availability in order to remain supported. See the Windows 8.1 FAQ for more information.
Windows 8 Enterprise N
10/30/2012
1/9/2018
1/10/2023
1/12/2016
Customers have 24 months to move to Windows 8.1 after General Availability in order to remain supported. See the Windows 8.1 FAQ for more information.
Windows 8 N
10/30/2012
1/9/2018
1/10/2023
1/12/2016
Customers have 24 months to move to Windows 8.1 after General Availability in order to remain supported. See the Windows 8.1 FAQ for more information.
Windows 8 Pro
10/30/2012
1/9/2018
1/10/2023
1/12/2016
Customers have 24 months to move to Windows 8.1 after General Availability in order to remain supported. See the Windows 8.1 FAQ for more information.
Windows 8 Pro N
10/30/2012
1/9/2018
1/10/2023
1/12/2016
Customers have 24 months to move to Windows 8.1 after General Availability in order to remain supported. See the Windows 8.1 FAQ for more information.
 

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Oh, ok, I just have to follow the links:eek:. I find it kind of odd that people have so many problems and I have never had any. I guess I just get lucky and buy the right products and not mess around(until I create an image;)).

For example my Lenovo came with 8.1 update. When windows first installed after reading online about having to update/grade, I thought I had to do it. After several failed attempts, I found out online, I already had 8.1 update, in that I had, the shutdown button on the Start Screen.
 

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    Windows 8.1 Update Pro in Hyper-V/Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
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    Cliff's Black & Blue Wonder
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    Intel Core i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero
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    32 GB Quad Kit, G.Skill Trident Z RGB Series schwarz, DDR4-3866, 18-19-19-39-2T
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    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix O24G, 24576 MB GDDR6X
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    (1) HD Webcam C270 (2) NVIDIA High Definition Audio (3) Realtek High Definition Audio
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    BenQ BL2711U(4K) and a hp 27vx(1080p)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
    Hard Drives
    C: Samsung 960 EVO NVMe M.2 SSD
    E: & O: Libraries & OneDrive-> Samsung 850 EVO 1TB
    D: Hyper-V VM's -> Samsung PM951 Client M.2 512Gb SSD
    G: System Images -> HDD Seagate Barracuda 2TB
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    Corsair HX1000i High Performance ATX Power Supply 80+ Platinum
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    hanteks Enthoo Pro TG
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    Thermaltake Floe Riing RGB TT Premium-Edition 360mm and 3 Corsair blue LED fans
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    Trust GTX THURA
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    Trust GTX 148
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    25+/5+ (+usually faster)
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I think a lot of it comes from people still using an old download they got from somewhere ages ago. And don't realize there is a new one with no hoops to have to jump through. Before I was an MVP I had to resort to bit torrent to find an ISO to do a clean install of 8.0 on my laptop. Then, the only official download from Microsoft showed up. You had to enter a key to actually get it and it didn't accept OEM keys. That download wouldn't install with an 8.0 key either. You had to install with an 8.1 key, then change key to activate with your 8.0 key. See what I mean about jumping through hoops? They got a lot of flack over that and finally came up with the Media Creation Tool download. The new option one in the tutorial. No key needed to download, accepts 8.0 keys and 8.1 keys, retail or OEM embedded keys also. It just works. The only tricky part is knowing what version to download and install. Core, Pro, or SL. Other than that its pretty easy to use and will create your bootable install media for you, if you want. Or an ISO file. I use the Pro download from there because it will fit on a 4 gig thumb drive. My MSDN ISO won't.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
    Memory
    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
    Sound Card
    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
    PSU
    Thermaltake TR 620
    Case
    Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Stock heatsink fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech M570 Trackball and T650 TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2

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I guess as coding improves too, they can find better ways of doing things, I mean for example the UEFI technology is relatively new, and embedded keys also, they just had to find which way and when to "read " the embedded key from BIOS was better. Look at how silky smooth it goes with 10 now. like McDonalds say's "I'm Lovin' it!!"
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Update Pro in Hyper-V/Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Cliff's Black & Blue Wonder
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero
    Memory
    32 GB Quad Kit, G.Skill Trident Z RGB Series schwarz, DDR4-3866, 18-19-19-39-2T
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix O24G, 24576 MB GDDR6X
    Sound Card
    (1) HD Webcam C270 (2) NVIDIA High Definition Audio (3) Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BenQ BL2711U(4K) and a hp 27vx(1080p)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
    Hard Drives
    C: Samsung 960 EVO NVMe M.2 SSD
    E: & O: Libraries & OneDrive-> Samsung 850 EVO 1TB
    D: Hyper-V VM's -> Samsung PM951 Client M.2 512Gb SSD
    G: System Images -> HDD Seagate Barracuda 2TB
    PSU
    Corsair HX1000i High Performance ATX Power Supply 80+ Platinum
    Case
    hanteks Enthoo Pro TG
    Cooling
    Thermaltake Floe Riing RGB TT Premium-Edition 360mm and 3 Corsair blue LED fans
    Keyboard
    Trust GTX THURA
    Mouse
    Trust GTX 148
    Internet Speed
    25+/5+ (+usually faster)
    Browser
    Edge; Chrome; IE11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender of course & Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit as a
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    Router: FRITZ!Box 7490
    Sound system: SHARP HT-SBW460 Dolby Atmos Soundbar
    Webcam: Logitech BRIO ULTRA HD PRO WEBCAM 4K webcam with HDR

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You don't need a modified ISO by the way. This install media, Create installation media for Windows 8.1 - Windows Help , doesn't require a key to download and will use Windows 8.0 and 8.1 keys for install and activation. Even OEM embedded keys. If I install 8.1 from that link it uses my laptops OEM embedded key for Windows 8.0 automatically. I'm not prompted to enter a key and it activates online automatically with no issues. The latest MSDN ISO's will also accept Windows 8.0 and 8.1 keys, and use OEM embedded keys automatically. You don't really even need to know what your OEM key is. All you need to know is what version the key is for, Core, Pro, or Single Language, etc.

yup, got that one when it was posted, put it n a USB stick for reference, along with my USB boot stick for repairs and recoverys But this was "after" all the hell that broke out with people not being able to update/upgrade one or the other installed WOS's. I'm assuming that W10 will be on the same page this time,and WILL install just looking for the key on your system. the problem arises when besides the key, it just won't install properly, good key or not like my 8.1 ran into trying to do the on-line sp1 update that time. but now I have that 8.1 installer w/update on the USB so its all there now anyway, as I stated, I probably will never use it anyhow, I only recover using my most recent image.
 

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    W8.1up1 Pro x64 w/media center
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    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    dv7t-6c00 HP
    CPU
    2670QM
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    8g
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon 7690M XT (6770m) /Intel 3000
    Sound Card
    IDT HD Intel
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    Laptop 17.3"/Samsung 26"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 HD
    Hard Drives
    Hitichi 750g 5400 rpm Laptop
    Case
    Brushed Aluminum (steel)
    Keyboard
    external USB
    Mouse
    external USB
    Internet Speed
    DSL
    Browser
    FF, IE, Chrome
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    COMODO Security Suite

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You don't need a modified ISO by the way. This install media, Create installation media for Windows 8.1 - Windows Help , doesn't require a key to download and will use Windows 8.0 and 8.1 keys for install and activation. Even OEM embedded keys. If I install 8.1 from that link it uses my laptops OEM embedded key for Windows 8.0 automatically. I'm not prompted to enter a key and it activates online automatically with no issues. The latest MSDN ISO's will also accept Windows 8.0 and 8.1 keys, and use OEM embedded keys automatically. You don't really even need to know what your OEM key is. All you need to know is what version the key is for, Core, Pro, or Single Language, etc.

yup, got that one when it was posted, put it n a USB stick for reference, along with my USB boot stick for repairs and recoverys But this was "after" all the hell that broke out with people not being able to update/upgrade one or the other installed WOS's. I'm assuming that W10 will be on the same page this time,and WILL install just looking for the key on your system. the problem arises when besides the key, it just won't install properly, good key or not like my 8.1 ran into trying to do the on-line sp1 update that time. but now I have that 8.1 installer w/update on the USB so its all there now anyway, as I stated, I probably will never use it anyhow, I only recover using my most recent image.

I'm basically set up like you. But Install media is good to have(or at least a copy of the ISO) for running some DISM commands to fix or turn things on, like .NET 3.5 or repairing a corruption quickly without having to re-image.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Update Pro in Hyper-V/Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Cliff's Black & Blue Wonder
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero
    Memory
    32 GB Quad Kit, G.Skill Trident Z RGB Series schwarz, DDR4-3866, 18-19-19-39-2T
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix O24G, 24576 MB GDDR6X
    Sound Card
    (1) HD Webcam C270 (2) NVIDIA High Definition Audio (3) Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BenQ BL2711U(4K) and a hp 27vx(1080p)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
    Hard Drives
    C: Samsung 960 EVO NVMe M.2 SSD
    E: & O: Libraries & OneDrive-> Samsung 850 EVO 1TB
    D: Hyper-V VM's -> Samsung PM951 Client M.2 512Gb SSD
    G: System Images -> HDD Seagate Barracuda 2TB
    PSU
    Corsair HX1000i High Performance ATX Power Supply 80+ Platinum
    Case
    hanteks Enthoo Pro TG
    Cooling
    Thermaltake Floe Riing RGB TT Premium-Edition 360mm and 3 Corsair blue LED fans
    Keyboard
    Trust GTX THURA
    Mouse
    Trust GTX 148
    Internet Speed
    25+/5+ (+usually faster)
    Browser
    Edge; Chrome; IE11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender of course & Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit as a
    Other Info
    Router: FRITZ!Box 7490
    Sound system: SHARP HT-SBW460 Dolby Atmos Soundbar
    Webcam: Logitech BRIO ULTRA HD PRO WEBCAM 4K webcam with HDR

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There are drawbacks also. If I use my stock Windows 8.1 MSDN ISO on my laptop, Windows 8.1 Core gets installed automatically. I have no choice. It reads the 8.0 OEM key. I then have to use Add Features to go to Pro with my TechNet key. It takes a fair amount of time to do it too. To get around that I have to modify my ISO and add a PID.txt file with the Pro key in it. Pro then gets installed instead of core. That means that install media can only be used on that PC. It's no big deal for me, I use custom install media for each PC anyway. I add custom OEM info for that PC to the system page etc.

I've seen posts where somebody bought a Retail 8.x Pro DVD and then wondered why it only installed Core. The OEM key got in the way.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
    Memory
    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
    Sound Card
    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
    PSU
    Thermaltake TR 620
    Case
    Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Stock heatsink fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech M570 Trackball and T650 TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2

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I don't know much about this stuff, but can't one keep windows from reading the key when installing? I have never reinstalled 8.1 as I just cleaned it out after initial install(everyone needs a hobby) and it's the same install(re-imaged a couple of times to clean out theming modifications, but still the same installation).
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Update Pro in Hyper-V/Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Cliff's Black & Blue Wonder
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero
    Memory
    32 GB Quad Kit, G.Skill Trident Z RGB Series schwarz, DDR4-3866, 18-19-19-39-2T
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix O24G, 24576 MB GDDR6X
    Sound Card
    (1) HD Webcam C270 (2) NVIDIA High Definition Audio (3) Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BenQ BL2711U(4K) and a hp 27vx(1080p)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
    Hard Drives
    C: Samsung 960 EVO NVMe M.2 SSD
    E: & O: Libraries & OneDrive-> Samsung 850 EVO 1TB
    D: Hyper-V VM's -> Samsung PM951 Client M.2 512Gb SSD
    G: System Images -> HDD Seagate Barracuda 2TB
    PSU
    Corsair HX1000i High Performance ATX Power Supply 80+ Platinum
    Case
    hanteks Enthoo Pro TG
    Cooling
    Thermaltake Floe Riing RGB TT Premium-Edition 360mm and 3 Corsair blue LED fans
    Keyboard
    Trust GTX THURA
    Mouse
    Trust GTX 148
    Internet Speed
    25+/5+ (+usually faster)
    Browser
    Edge; Chrome; IE11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender of course & Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit as a
    Other Info
    Router: FRITZ!Box 7490
    Sound system: SHARP HT-SBW460 Dolby Atmos Soundbar
    Webcam: Logitech BRIO ULTRA HD PRO WEBCAM 4K webcam with HDR

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No, its coded to look for it. You can get around it, adding a PID.txt file is one way. I could also just install the Pro version from the Media Creation Tool. If still looks for my key but rejects it as its only a Core key. I'll get prompted to enter a Pro key. For most people its no big deal, they will just be installing the version the PC came with. MSDN ISO's are Core and Pro and can install either version. The MCT download is Core or Pro. It can only install the one version.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
    Memory
    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
    Sound Card
    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
    PSU
    Thermaltake TR 620
    Case
    Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Stock heatsink fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech M570 Trackball and T650 TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2

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OK I get now. for the normal user it wouldn't(shouldn't?) be the same problem.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Update Pro in Hyper-V/Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Cliff's Black & Blue Wonder
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero
    Memory
    32 GB Quad Kit, G.Skill Trident Z RGB Series schwarz, DDR4-3866, 18-19-19-39-2T
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix O24G, 24576 MB GDDR6X
    Sound Card
    (1) HD Webcam C270 (2) NVIDIA High Definition Audio (3) Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BenQ BL2711U(4K) and a hp 27vx(1080p)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
    Hard Drives
    C: Samsung 960 EVO NVMe M.2 SSD
    E: & O: Libraries & OneDrive-> Samsung 850 EVO 1TB
    D: Hyper-V VM's -> Samsung PM951 Client M.2 512Gb SSD
    G: System Images -> HDD Seagate Barracuda 2TB
    PSU
    Corsair HX1000i High Performance ATX Power Supply 80+ Platinum
    Case
    hanteks Enthoo Pro TG
    Cooling
    Thermaltake Floe Riing RGB TT Premium-Edition 360mm and 3 Corsair blue LED fans
    Keyboard
    Trust GTX THURA
    Mouse
    Trust GTX 148
    Internet Speed
    25+/5+ (+usually faster)
    Browser
    Edge; Chrome; IE11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender of course & Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit as a
    Other Info
    Router: FRITZ!Box 7490
    Sound system: SHARP HT-SBW460 Dolby Atmos Soundbar
    Webcam: Logitech BRIO ULTRA HD PRO WEBCAM 4K webcam with HDR

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OK I get now. for the normal user it wouldn't(shouldn't?) be the same problem.

Yes, my laptop came with Core but I run Pro, sometimes even Enterprise. MVP's get an MSDN subscription so why not.;)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
    Memory
    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
    Sound Card
    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
    PSU
    Thermaltake TR 620
    Case
    Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Stock heatsink fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech M570 Trackball and T650 TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2

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OK I get now. for the normal user it wouldn't(shouldn't?) be the same problem.

Yes, my laptop came with Core but I run Pro, sometimes even Enterprise. MVP's get an MSDN subscription so why not.;)
Ya'll deserve it. Best way to be able to test, develop designing and demonstrating. I just looked here and saw how many different keys there were:



Product Key Types Listed in Subscriber Downloads
Key Type
Description
Not Applicable
No key is needed to install this product.
Retail
Retail keys allow multiple activations and are used for retail builds of the product. In many cases, 10 activations are allowed per key, though often more are allowed on the same machine.
Multiple Activation
A Multiple Activation Key (MAK) enables you to activate multiple installations of a product with the same key. MAKs are generally used with Volume Licensing versions of products. Typically, only one MAK key is provided per subscription.
Static Activation Key
Static activation keys are provided for products that do not require activation. They can be used for any number of installations.
Custom Key
Custom keys provide special actions or information to activate or install the product.
VA 1.0
These are multiple activation keys, similar to a MAK.
OEM Key
These are Original Equipment Manufacturer keys that allow multiple activations.
DreamSpark Retail Key
These retail keys are for DreamSpark and allow one activation. DreamSpark Retail keys are issued in batches and are primarily intended for student consumption.
DreamSpark Lab Key
These lab use keys are for DreamSpark programs and allow multiple activations. DreamSpark Lab Keys are intended for use in university computer lab scenarios.
DreamSpark MAK Key
These are MAK keys for DreamSpark program customers.


Plus a bunch of links on the subject:

Resources for Product Keys and Activation:

 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Update Pro in Hyper-V/Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Cliff's Black & Blue Wonder
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero
    Memory
    32 GB Quad Kit, G.Skill Trident Z RGB Series schwarz, DDR4-3866, 18-19-19-39-2T
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix O24G, 24576 MB GDDR6X
    Sound Card
    (1) HD Webcam C270 (2) NVIDIA High Definition Audio (3) Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BenQ BL2711U(4K) and a hp 27vx(1080p)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
    Hard Drives
    C: Samsung 960 EVO NVMe M.2 SSD
    E: & O: Libraries & OneDrive-> Samsung 850 EVO 1TB
    D: Hyper-V VM's -> Samsung PM951 Client M.2 512Gb SSD
    G: System Images -> HDD Seagate Barracuda 2TB
    PSU
    Corsair HX1000i High Performance ATX Power Supply 80+ Platinum
    Case
    hanteks Enthoo Pro TG
    Cooling
    Thermaltake Floe Riing RGB TT Premium-Edition 360mm and 3 Corsair blue LED fans
    Keyboard
    Trust GTX THURA
    Mouse
    Trust GTX 148
    Internet Speed
    25+/5+ (+usually faster)
    Browser
    Edge; Chrome; IE11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender of course & Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit as a
    Other Info
    Router: FRITZ!Box 7490
    Sound system: SHARP HT-SBW460 Dolby Atmos Soundbar
    Webcam: Logitech BRIO ULTRA HD PRO WEBCAM 4K webcam with HDR

alphanumeric

slightly off center
VIP Member
Guru
Gold Member
It's a nice perk. Just being able to get the nice clean official ISO's is a big bonus. The keys are nice too but the install media is of the most use to me. Especially for older versions of Windows like Windows 7. Anyway, maybe we should let this thread get back on track. ;)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
    Memory
    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
    Sound Card
    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
    PSU
    Thermaltake TR 620
    Case
    Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Stock heatsink fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech M570 Trackball and T650 TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2

Cliff S

Missing my GIF avatars:(
Pro User
It's a nice perk. Just being able to get the nice clean official ISO's is a big bonus. The keys are nice too but the install media is of the most use to me. Especially for older versions of Windows like Windows 7. Anyway, maybe we should let this thread get back on track. ;)
Yeah a good Idea, this isn't Ten Forums:D. I started it so people know it's time to upgrade, not because of Win10, but for future patches and updates, as it it was stated
or be cut off from Microsoft's stream of security updates.
,. Online security is the Α&Ω.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Update Pro in Hyper-V/Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Cliff's Black & Blue Wonder
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero
    Memory
    32 GB Quad Kit, G.Skill Trident Z RGB Series schwarz, DDR4-3866, 18-19-19-39-2T
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix O24G, 24576 MB GDDR6X
    Sound Card
    (1) HD Webcam C270 (2) NVIDIA High Definition Audio (3) Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BenQ BL2711U(4K) and a hp 27vx(1080p)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
    Hard Drives
    C: Samsung 960 EVO NVMe M.2 SSD
    E: & O: Libraries & OneDrive-> Samsung 850 EVO 1TB
    D: Hyper-V VM's -> Samsung PM951 Client M.2 512Gb SSD
    G: System Images -> HDD Seagate Barracuda 2TB
    PSU
    Corsair HX1000i High Performance ATX Power Supply 80+ Platinum
    Case
    hanteks Enthoo Pro TG
    Cooling
    Thermaltake Floe Riing RGB TT Premium-Edition 360mm and 3 Corsair blue LED fans
    Keyboard
    Trust GTX THURA
    Mouse
    Trust GTX 148
    Internet Speed
    25+/5+ (+usually faster)
    Browser
    Edge; Chrome; IE11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender of course & Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit as a
    Other Info
    Router: FRITZ!Box 7490
    Sound system: SHARP HT-SBW460 Dolby Atmos Soundbar
    Webcam: Logitech BRIO ULTRA HD PRO WEBCAM 4K webcam with HDR

Atomic77

Banned
I agree everyone who has not reached OS Windows 8.1 could be asking for troubles down the road. I understand though if you don't have a computer that is capable though.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 64 bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy 700-414
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 4570 3.20ghz
    Memory
    12 gigabyte
    Graphics Card(s)
    INTEL HD 4600
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Pavilion 22bw
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x1080
    Hard Drives
    2TB
    PSU
    460w
    Keyboard
    Hp Wireless cichlet style
    Mouse
    Logitech m 100
    Internet Speed
    Charter Cable Wireless
    Browser
    INTERNET EXPLORER 11
    Antivirus
    NORTON 360

Allison

Member
Member
I remember the absolute nightmare trying to update my old OEM desktop to Windows 8.1 and I really hope the guy who bought it from me has/had an easier time with the factory reset we did in December. The whole situation was a mess there and Microsoft really made things painful- it was for the best in the end that my parents stayed with my old Windows 7 Compaq. It’s reliable until the hardware fails and they’re not very technical- Windows 8 was an unstable nightmare. I’m happy enough with Windows 8.1 now that I’m keeping my license even if later on I buy a Windows 10 later on so I have both retail licenses.

The major problem is the OEM manufacturers should have worked with Microsoft and there should have been accountability in the fact that so many base Windows 8 machines now have no upgrade ability and shortened lifespans. I’d blame just Microsoft but OEMs continued to push out Windows 8 machines and there were no warning labels in stores when I was looking for a new laptop. I bought an 8.1 laptop but many people grabbed what they thought was a good bargain at the time.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 64-bit/ Windows 8.1 64-bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Desktop: Allison Designs by Austin Computers / Laptop: Toshiba Satellite L50-A006
    CPU
    Intel Core i5- 4590/ Intel Core i5 processor 4200U
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte H97M-D3H/ ?
    Memory
    16 GB Kingston at 1600 Mhz/ 4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte Geforce GTX 760 OC Windforce (2 GB/256-bit)/ nVIDIA GeForce GT 740M 2GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard Audio'
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AOC 2216Vw 22"/ 15.6" Widescreen HD LED Backlit Display
    Screen Resolution
    1680*1050 / 1366*768
    Hard Drives
    2 TB Western Digital Black Caviar Drive (7200 RPM)/ 750GB (5400rpm) with Toshiba HDD Accelerator
    PSU
    Coolermaster 750W VS Series 80+ Gold Power Supply (Desktop Only)
    Case
    Corsair Carbide SPEC-02 Mid Tower Gaming Case (Desktop Only)
    Cooling
    Two Case 120 mm fans and GPU, CPU, PSU cooled by own fans respectively. (Desktop Only)
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Wired Keyboard Desktop 600 (Desktop Only)
    Mouse
    Microsoft Wired Mouse 600/ Toshiba Touchpad and Logitech Mouse
    Browser
    Internet Explorer and Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Norton 360 by Symantec

FuturDreamz

Spacemonaut
Member
I've had problems with Windows 8.1 refusing to install. I don't remember how I fix it. I think I have to manually install a couple updates and reset Windows Update.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Tansformer Book Flip TP500LN
    CPU
    Intel i5-4210U
    Memory
    8GB DDR3 SDRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia Geforce GT 840M
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15" Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    1TB Hybrid
    Mouse
    Microsoft Wireless Mobile Mouse 4000

nt62

Member
Member
Microsoft cannot FORCE anyone to move to 8.1.
I will NOT be upgrading anything.
... been using 8.0 since its release.
On this system, build 9200 (8.0) works beautifully. Totally awesome. Totally rock solid.
Let's do this again in 2024.

no updates.jpg
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    server 2012
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    self assembled
    CPU
    3770k
    Motherboard
    Asrock
    Memory
    8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    intel onboard
    Sound Card
    hdmi tv to external sound system
    Monitor(s) Displays
    led
    Hard Drives
    Addonics Quad mSATA PCIe SSD - various SSD
    Browser
    Opera

alphanumeric

slightly off center
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Gold Member
As long as your fine with no longer getting any security updates or system patches, go for it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
    Memory
    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
    Sound Card
    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
    PSU
    Thermaltake TR 620
    Case
    Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Stock heatsink fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech M570 Trackball and T650 TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2

nt62

Member
Member
As long as you're fine with no longer getting any security updates or system patches, go for it.

Yep. I've turned off updates completely. They cannot be installed on this system.
Don't need security updates!
Funny thou, thing is, I've never kept a system running "as is" for more than 3 weeks.
Constantly doing clean installs from scratch.
I've got it down to a science.
Can do a clean install from USB boot to default start screen in 10 minutes.
Then I go thru a check list of "things to do" as a hobby.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    server 2012
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    self assembled
    CPU
    3770k
    Motherboard
    Asrock
    Memory
    8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    intel onboard
    Sound Card
    hdmi tv to external sound system
    Monitor(s) Displays
    led
    Hard Drives
    Addonics Quad mSATA PCIe SSD - various SSD
    Browser
    Opera
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