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Microsoft on Windows 8 Haters: We Could See This Coming


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Windows chief Julie Larson-Green recently talked about Windows 8 and Windows Blue during the WIRED Business Conference, confirming not only a major upgrade for the OS, but also the intense criticism it received since October 2012.

There’s no doubt that Windows 8 is one of the most controversial products ever released by the tech giant, but Julie Larson-Green says everybody in the Redmond campus could see this coming.

The explanation is quite simple
, actually. The company made so many changes in Windows 8 that it was quite obvious that some users, be they experienced or beginners, might encounter difficulties when it comes to exploring them.
One of the things Microsoft could change in the next Windows Blue is the way users launch apps. Sources familiar with the matter hinted that Blue could mark the Start button’s comeback, even though there are some signs that it might actually be just a simple shortcut for the Start Screen.
Microsoft on Windows 8 Haters: We Could See This Coming


Maybe they think that money will cure there problems.
 

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One of the things Microsoft could change in the next Windows Blue is the way users launch apps. Sources familiar with the matter hinted that Blue could mark the Start button’s comeback, even though there are some signs that it might actually be just a simple shortcut for the Start Screen.
The fact they they KNOW we want a real Orb back, may be a good sign. I don't consider myself or others who want this, "haters" - I actually Like Windows 8... But it all stops at the Desktop for me. When I buy a Windows 8 Tablet, I'll praise that too, if I is useful.
 

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They do keep saying button.

Click the button and the full screen ad billboard appears.

Yep. that will do it.
 

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Again, I don't like having a Start button on the Taskbar because UI design wise, when you will snap an app in Windows 8.1 50/50 mode, your precious Start button is now moved halfway over to the screen.
 

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Who cares where it is or what it's called, but I need an area from which my desktop applications are listed and I can choose what app I want to run, and this is sorely MISSING in Windows 8 Desktop. They want us to use the Metrop links, but those suck eggs, I want the Program Menu back
 

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Who cares where it is or what it's called, but I need an area from which my desktop applications are listed and I can choose what app I want to run, and this is sorely MISSING in Windows 8 Desktop. They want us to use the Metrop links, but those suck eggs, I want the Program Menu back
Perhaps it will take you to All Apps screen, which is actually the new Start Menu, not the Start Screen. So it's not missing.

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Again, I don't like having a Start button on the Taskbar because UI design wise, when you will snap an app in Windows 8.1 50/50 mode, your precious Start button is now moved halfway over to the screen.
Only if MS choose to make Snap work in that way.

Somewhere there was a story quoting Microsoft saying that their telemetry said people don't use the Start button but use the Taskbar instead. But then they produce a Metro design with no Taskbar.
:doh:

I actually think the Taskbar is a very useful navigation device - you can see all the apps you have running; especially useful when you click on an image file and get swept into a full-screen Photo viewer with no visible way back.

So why not put the Taskbar in Metro as well as Desktop? It could be set (as now in Desktop) to auto-hide for people who don't need or want it.
 

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Microsoft simply fixed everything that wasn't broken in Windows 7 and came up with Windows 8.
 

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The "Open apps/programs Bar" that slides out from the left is very similar to an auto-hide taskbar with open apps/programs on it. Perhaps in Blue they'll make it an option to keep it on top so that some are secure that it's there or even better yet > know that it's there.

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BTW, slide it out (even on the desktop), right click on any of them, and see what happens.

The more I read of some members' posts, the more I'm realizing that not many really know Windows 8 in it's true colors. I think the article title should have been "Microsoft on Windows 8 Whiners: We Could See This Coming". :p

One more thing. While I'm writing this on the desktop, I get an alert from my Modern NBC News app that Tiger Woods shot a two under to win the Players Championship. Something I'm personally interested in. Yea! This is really going backwards. Now I'll go read the article and watch some videos on the highlights and leave you in the dust. :)
 

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The "Open apps/programs Bar" that slides out from the left is very similar to an auto-hide taskbar with open apps/programs on it. Perhaps in Blue they'll make it an option to keep it on top so that some are secure that it's there or even better yet > know that it's there.

View attachment 21756


View attachment 21757

BTW, slide it out (even on the desktop), right click on any of them, and see what happens.

The more I read of some members' posts, the more I'm realizing that not many really know Windows 8 in it's true colors. I think the article title should have been "Microsoft on Windows 8 Whiners: We Could See This Coming". :p

One more thing. While I'm writing this on the desktop, I get an alert from my Modern NBC News app that Tiger Woods shot a two under to win the Players Championship. Something I'm personally interested in. Yea! This is really going backwards. Now I'll go read the article and watch some videos on the highlights and leave you in the dust. :)
So true! :roflmao:
 

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Microsoft simply fixed everything that wasn't broken in Windows 7 and came up with Windows 8.
Exactly, Ray. Now I think you're getting it. I didn't realize how broken past OSs were until I saw 8 either. :)

None so blind as those who refuse to see.
We know how you feel, Ray. Glad to see you're coming around. :D
 

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There must be some subliminal imaging in Windows 8 that affects some into the utmost subservience. There can be no other explanation as to why some bow down to Windows 8 with such reverence.
 

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The "Open apps/programs Bar" that slides out from the left is very similar to an auto-hide taskbar with open apps/programs on it. Perhaps in Blue they'll make it an option to keep it on top so that some are secure that it's there or even better yet > know that it's there.
Oh I knew that was there. However it's pretty hopeless compared to the Taskbar in Windows 7 as a way of navigating the system, especially for newbies.

In Windows 7 the taskbar is always visible (unless you decide to hide it, or open a full screen app, which you can get out of with the Esc key) and shows you all applications running on the PC. You can also "pin" your favourite programs to it so you can access them quickly.

In Windows 8 if you think of the bar on the left as a Taskbar:
  • You have two taskbars.
  • Taskbar A is only visible in Desktop mode.
  • Taskbar B is only visible if you have certain types of applications running and if you click on a few magic pixels or remember the magic keyboard shortcut (I assume there is one).
  • Neither taskbar will show you all the apps you have running on the computer.
  • You can't pin favourite apps to the new taskbar (remember this was the justification for removing the Start button)

For the user in Outlook who clicks on an image in an email and ends up in the Metro Photo viewer, it's really not intuitive to work out how to get back. It was so much simpler in Windows 7.
 

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The "Open apps/programs Bar" that slides out from the left is very similar to an auto-hide taskbar with open apps/programs on it. Perhaps in Blue they'll make it an option to keep it on top so that some are secure that it's there or even better yet > know that it's there.

View attachment 21756


View attachment 21757

BTW, slide it out (even on the desktop), right click on any of them, and see what happens.

The more I read of some members' posts, the more I'm realizing that not many really know Windows 8 in it's true colors. I think the article title should have been "Microsoft on Windows 8 Whiners: We Could See This Coming". :p

One more thing. While I'm writing this on the desktop, I get an alert from my Modern NBC News app that Tiger Woods shot a two under to win the Players Championship. Something I'm personally interested in. Yea! This is really going backwards. Now I'll go read the article and watch some videos on the highlights and leave you in the dust. :)
Hi there

That colour scheme -- have to get out my shades.
However who wants a desktop to look like that in any case.

If you need to watch sports etc while working there's nothing wrong in having this open in a "RE-SIZEABLE Classical Windowed" mode - also easy to hide quickly if the Boss comes in. !!!!

for example

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There must be some subliminal imaging in Windows 8 that affects some into the utmost subservience. There can be no other explanation as to why some bow down to Windows 8 with such reverence.
Oh, Ray, there's no such thing. The reason is that 8 is really that good when one learns it and sees what MS is trying to accomplish. :)
 

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