• This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn more.

Microsoft is mulling 128 bit win 8


Posts
602
#1

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    WCP
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    [email protected] 4.9 Hz
    Memory
    64 gig
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia 9600
    Sound Card
    integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900
    Hard Drives
    300gig internal and a bunch ext
    Cooling
    not much
    Keyboard
    Built-in
    Mouse
    Logitch Anywhere Mx wireless mouse
    Internet Speed
    50 down 1.5 up

Maxik

Member
Member
Poland

Posts
10
#2
If that is true than 32 bit operating system will be a history (finally :D). Besides these days 64 bit CPU's aren't realy 64 bit (expect Xeon or Itanium like CPU's) and I think that's a little bit too early to say anything about 128 bit CPU's. The same if we say about software. A lot of programmers don't use 64 bit code to write their software. Than what should it be with 128 bit software?? I don't see it in the next 5 years.

Regards
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 RC
    CPU
    C2D E7400
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte EP43-S3L
    Memory
    Patriot 2x2GB 1066Mhz (5-5-5-12)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte GeForce 9600GT 512 MB DDR3
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster Audigy
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG StudioWorks 773 (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    1024*768*32
    Hard Drives
    WD Caviar 640GB SATAII
    WD Caviar 160GB UATA
Posts
602
#3
maxic

If they cant get ppl off XP, I dont see win 8 being 128bit. 64 only, maybe. I dont care either way I just post the news so we have something to talk about

Ken
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    WCP
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    [email protected] 4.9 Hz
    Memory
    64 gig
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia 9600
    Sound Card
    integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900
    Hard Drives
    300gig internal and a bunch ext
    Cooling
    not much
    Keyboard
    Built-in
    Mouse
    Logitch Anywhere Mx wireless mouse
    Internet Speed
    50 down 1.5 up

Maxik

Member
Member
Poland

Posts
10
#4
No, People con't get off XP because theyget used to it and not it is better. They are stupid thinking that's better when they use XP. Xp will live for a few years until they realise that Most of hardware and software won't run on it. Also I don't see the point of making it 128 bit. We don't get used to x64 platforms and we don't fast. and that's the real problem of it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 RC
    CPU
    C2D E7400
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte EP43-S3L
    Memory
    Patriot 2x2GB 1066Mhz (5-5-5-12)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte GeForce 9600GT 512 MB DDR3
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster Audigy
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG StudioWorks 773 (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    1024*768*32
    Hard Drives
    WD Caviar 640GB SATAII
    WD Caviar 160GB UATA

Lemur

New Member
Posts
13
#5
win 8 is possible, win 9 is likely. why 128-bit? even greater stability, security, and i guess access memory. But who is going to have a gazzilion mbs of memory?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8 Developer
    System Manufacturer/Model
    home grown
    CPU
    AMD FX-4100 Zambezi 3.6G
    Motherboard
    ASUS M5A97 AM3+
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon HD 6850
    Sound Card
    onboard
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s
    Case
    Cooler Master
    Internet Speed
    10 mbps

thefabe

New Member
VIP Member
Member
Gulf Coast Texas

Posts
114
#6
I think now is as good as anytime to start in the direction of 128bit. but until everyone has a 64 bit Os that is as stable but mostly accepted as XP it is aways in the future. Not to mention the web based concept. Fabe
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows Seven Ultimate 64 /Xp Home sp3
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Thefabe
    CPU
    Intel Q6600 GO steppping 2.4 @ 2.63
    Motherboard
    Asus P5N-D
    Memory
    8 gig's OCZ Fata1ty 1066
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GTX 260 Superclocked
    Sound Card
    Creative Labs Audigy 2zs
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP 23in TFT
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080p 60hz
    Hard Drives
    WD 200 Blue / Wd 500 Blue / Seagate 120gb 2.5 in External Drive / Seagate 80 gb 2.5 in External Drive / LG 10x BDRW / TSST DVDRW / Sony DVDRW
    PSU
    OCZ 700 w Gamextreme
    Case
    NZXT Apollo
    Cooling
    Masscool CPU / Dominator Memory/ 3 120mm
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX5000
    Mouse
    Logitech MX1000
    Internet Speed
    19.83mb/s DL 0.97 Mb/s up
    Other Info
    Logitech Z2300 2.1 speakers and Bose Comfort Headphones, Epson NX415 all in one printer, 4port powered USB hub PCAmp 40 x 40

JMH

Banned
Posts
476
#7
128-Bit Kernel Support in Windows 8 and Windows 9:

128-Bit Kernel Support in Windows 8 and Windows 9: A Big, Fat Lie.
Caveat: Iâ??ve been sitting on the information contained in this post for quite a while now, but it has finally perturbed me enough to put it out there for all of you (and myself, for that matter). If you would be so kind as to help spread the word, that would be great as the lie has spread like wildfire and taken on various forms, such as sites now reporting that Windows 8 will be 128-bit (ridiculous). Not only that, but the perpetrator that started this mess needs to be called out with fair warning given to all. What you choose to believe by the end of this post will be up to you, but my intentions here are to help sift out the garbage in a community full of journalists who â?? like me â?? truly bust their butts to bring you solid, unique, and honest content.
Source -
http://msftkitchen.com/2009/11/128-bit-kernel-support-in-windows-8-and-windows-9-a-big-fat-lie.html
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    WCP / Win.7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1.
    System Manufacturer/Model
    LAPTOP. HP Pavilion dv7-4010TX .
    CPU
    Intel i7 -720QM.[1.6GHz Turbo Boost 2.8GHz. 6MB Cache.]
    Memory
    8 DDR 3 RAM. 1066MHZ
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI 1024 MB. DDR3. Radeon HD5650
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" High Definition Brightview LCD. LED Backlit.
    Screen Resolution
    1600 x 900.
    Hard Drives
    640GB
    Case
    Laptop / notebook.
    Cooling
    Of course.Cooler Master 3 fan with various speeds.
    Keyboard
    Does the keyboardless Laptop exist?
    Mouse
    Logitech Anywhere mouse. MX.
    Internet Speed
    Too slow.
    Other Info
    Nunya...

thefabe

New Member
VIP Member
Member
Gulf Coast Texas

Posts
114
#8
Well thanks for the artical.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows Seven Ultimate 64 /Xp Home sp3
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Thefabe
    CPU
    Intel Q6600 GO steppping 2.4 @ 2.63
    Motherboard
    Asus P5N-D
    Memory
    8 gig's OCZ Fata1ty 1066
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GTX 260 Superclocked
    Sound Card
    Creative Labs Audigy 2zs
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP 23in TFT
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080p 60hz
    Hard Drives
    WD 200 Blue / Wd 500 Blue / Seagate 120gb 2.5 in External Drive / Seagate 80 gb 2.5 in External Drive / LG 10x BDRW / TSST DVDRW / Sony DVDRW
    PSU
    OCZ 700 w Gamextreme
    Case
    NZXT Apollo
    Cooling
    Masscool CPU / Dominator Memory/ 3 120mm
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX5000
    Mouse
    Logitech MX1000
    Internet Speed
    19.83mb/s DL 0.97 Mb/s up
    Other Info
    Logitech Z2300 2.1 speakers and Bose Comfort Headphones, Epson NX415 all in one printer, 4port powered USB hub PCAmp 40 x 40

Dave76

Team Member
VIP Member
Pro User
#9
Good article and several links from there, are some interesting reading.

I thought 128bit seemed a little soon after 64bit, which is still not widely accepted. Wouldn't make much sense to release this so soon.
Might have been 'leaked' to give the 'nobody needs 64bit' crowd something to focus on :p
 
Last edited:

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64/ Windows 7 Ult x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    76~2.0
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-3570K 4.6GHz
    Motherboard
    GIGABYTE GA-Z77X UD3H f18
    Memory
    8GB (2X4GB) DDR3 1600 CORSAIR Vengeance CL8 1.5v
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire HD 7770 Vapor-X 1GB DDR5
    Sound Card
    Onboard VIA VT2021
    Monitor(s) Displays
    22" LCD Dell SP2208WFP
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    Samaung 840Pro 128GB, Seagate 500GB SATA2 7200rpm 32mb, Seagate 1TB SATA2 7200rpm 32mb,
    PSU
    Corsair HX650W
    Case
    Cooler Master Storm Scout
    Cooling
    Corsair H80 w/Noctua NF P12 12cm fan, case fans 2X14cm
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wave
    Mouse
    CM Sentinel
    Internet Speed
    Abysmal
    Browser
    Opera Next
    Other Info
    Dell Venue 8Pro: Baytrail Z3740D, 2GB Ram, 64GB HDD, 8" IPS Display 1280 x 800, Active Stylus.
    Haswell laptop: HP Envy 17t-j, i7-4700MQ, GeForce 740M 2GB DDR3, 17.3" Full HD 1920x1080, 16GB RAM, Samsung 840 Pro 128GB, 1TB Hitachi 7200 HDD,
    Desktop: eSATA ports,
    External eSATA Seagate 500GB SATA2 7200rpm,

iseeuu

New Member
VIP Member
Member
Posts
307
#10
The LinkedIn profile was a fake?

Writers at PC World, Ars Technica, Slashdot, and many other publications fell for an obviously faked LinkedIn profile from a supposed Microsoft researcher who claimed he was working on a 128-bit kernel for Windows 8. There's just one problem: This guy doesn't exist. No one with his name has ever worked at Microsoft Research. His job title is fake. Microsoft isn't working on a 128-bit kernel for Windows 8
more here: http://windowsitpro.com/windowspaul...info-short-takes-week-of-october-12-2009.html

Others: http://windows8news.com/2009/11/27/windows-8-128bit-rumours-were-fake/

http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/windows_7/does_a_windows_8_rumor_source_actually_exist.html
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    ...

whs

New Member
VIP Member
Guru
Germany/Florida

Posts
4,514
#11
What would be the advantage of 128bit. MS has a looooong way to go to even fill the shoes of the 64bit address space. I think 192GB is the high water mark right now - and that is peanuts compared to the open prairie behind it.

Regarding the XP migration, I see some movement. In my Florida computer club (650 members) and a lot of little old ladies, I see more and more interest in Win7.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Vista and Win7
    System Manufacturer/Model
    2xHP, 2xGateway, 1xDell, 1xSony
    Hard Drives
    5 SSDs and 12 HDs

SmartEyeball

No. 14
Team Member
VIP Member
Pro User
Posts
502
#12
I'd give it at least a decade before 128 bit is common place.

But then again 10 years is a long time when it comes to technology.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Vanilla 8 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    SmartEyeball Custom Systems
    CPU
    Intel 3770K @4.8ghz
    Motherboard
    ASUS P8Z77 WS
    Memory
    16GB G.Skill Trident 2666mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    3x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce SLI
    Sound Card
    SB X-FI Surround 5.1 PRO USB + ATH-AD900 Headphones
    Monitor(s) Displays
    x3 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony
    Screen Resolution
    5760*1200/1920*1200 / 1920*1080
    Hard Drives
    2x Intel 520 240GB * Crucial M4 128GB * 2x Samsung F3 1TB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0)
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200
    Case
    Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D14
    Keyboard
    Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL
    Mouse
    Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron
    Other Info
    Laptop Specs: Clevo Sager P170HM // 17.3 Matte 1920x1200 // i7 2720QM // 8GB 1333mhz // Dedicated GTX 485M // 240GB Intel 520 + 750GB + Blu-Ray // Samsung Story 2TB USB 3.0 // NexStar USB 3.0 enclosure 500GB

Kari

Old geek, new tricks
Team Member
VIP Member
Pro User
#13
Somehow I can not believe in 128-bit Windows 8, nor do I believe in 32-bit Windows 8. My bet is we get only the x64 option.

Kari
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP ENVY 17-1150eg
    CPU
    1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor
    Memory
    6 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics
    Sound Card
    Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" laptop display, 22" LED and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI
    Screen Resolution
    1600*900 (1), 1920*1080 (2&3)
    Hard Drives
    Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
    External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media
    Cooling
    As Envy runs a bit warm, I have it on a Cooler Master pad
    Keyboard
    Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth)
    Mouse
    Logitech MX1000 Laser (Bluetooth)
    Internet Speed
    50 MB VDSL
    Browser
    Maxthon 3.5.2., IE11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender 4.3.9431.0
    Other Info
    Windows in English, additional user accounts in Finnish, German and Swedish.

whs

New Member
VIP Member
Guru
Germany/Florida

Posts
4,514
#14
Somehow I can not believe in 128-bit Windows 8, nor do I believe in 32-bit Windows 8. My bet is we get only the x64 option.

Kari
if they go 64bit only, they leave a lot of programs in the dust.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Vista and Win7
    System Manufacturer/Model
    2xHP, 2xGateway, 1xDell, 1xSony
    Hard Drives
    5 SSDs and 12 HDs

SmartEyeball

No. 14
Team Member
VIP Member
Pro User
Posts
502
#15
if they go 64bit only, they leave a lot of programs in the dust.
There has to be a cut off point somewhere.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Vanilla 8 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    SmartEyeball Custom Systems
    CPU
    Intel 3770K @4.8ghz
    Motherboard
    ASUS P8Z77 WS
    Memory
    16GB G.Skill Trident 2666mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    3x Gigabyte GTX 670 OC WindForce SLI
    Sound Card
    SB X-FI Surround 5.1 PRO USB + ATH-AD900 Headphones
    Monitor(s) Displays
    x3 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung / "40 Sony
    Screen Resolution
    5760*1200/1920*1200 / 1920*1080
    Hard Drives
    2x Intel 520 240GB * Crucial M4 128GB * 2x Samsung F3 1TB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0)
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200
    Case
    Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D14
    Keyboard
    Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL
    Mouse
    Razer Imperator + Thermaltake Theron
    Other Info
    Laptop Specs: Clevo Sager P170HM // 17.3 Matte 1920x1200 // i7 2720QM // 8GB 1333mhz // Dedicated GTX 485M // 240GB Intel 520 + 750GB + Blu-Ray // Samsung Story 2TB USB 3.0 // NexStar USB 3.0 enclosure 500GB

Kari

Old geek, new tricks
Team Member
VIP Member
Pro User
#16
I really think Microsoft leaves it to Virtual PC to handle 32-bit apps.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP ENVY 17-1150eg
    CPU
    1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor
    Memory
    6 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics
    Sound Card
    Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" laptop display, 22" LED and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI
    Screen Resolution
    1600*900 (1), 1920*1080 (2&3)
    Hard Drives
    Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
    External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media
    Cooling
    As Envy runs a bit warm, I have it on a Cooler Master pad
    Keyboard
    Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth)
    Mouse
    Logitech MX1000 Laser (Bluetooth)
    Internet Speed
    50 MB VDSL
    Browser
    Maxthon 3.5.2., IE11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender 4.3.9431.0
    Other Info
    Windows in English, additional user accounts in Finnish, German and Swedish.

whs

New Member
VIP Member
Guru
Germany/Florida

Posts
4,514
#18
There has to be a cut off point somewhere.
For us bit-fiddlers, that is easy to say. We use the PC for fun. But if you are a business and invested thousands, if not millions of Dollars in 32bit programs to run your business, that is a different story. It will all depend on what the Fortune 500 companies tell MS. If they need 32bit, we'll get it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Vista and Win7
    System Manufacturer/Model
    2xHP, 2xGateway, 1xDell, 1xSony
    Hard Drives
    5 SSDs and 12 HDs

Kari

Old geek, new tricks
Team Member
VIP Member
Pro User
#19
For us bit-fiddlers, that is easy to say. We use the PC for fun. But if you are a business and invested thousands, if not millions of Dollars in 32bit programs to run your business, that is a different story. It will all depend on what the Fortune 500 companies tell MS. If they need 32bit, we'll get it.
You are right, of course. But someday, somehow we (and those Fortune 500 companies) have to start thinking about the future. All new hardware is 64-bit, software development is going on that direction. Is it Win8 or Win9, I'm not sure though I think it's already Win8, we have to move to a 64-bit environment.

As in any other major change in global IT policy, some will be hurt. But the change is coming, and I think it should come.

Kari
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP ENVY 17-1150eg
    CPU
    1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor
    Memory
    6 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics
    Sound Card
    Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" laptop display, 22" LED and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI
    Screen Resolution
    1600*900 (1), 1920*1080 (2&3)
    Hard Drives
    Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
    External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media
    Cooling
    As Envy runs a bit warm, I have it on a Cooler Master pad
    Keyboard
    Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth)
    Mouse
    Logitech MX1000 Laser (Bluetooth)
    Internet Speed
    50 MB VDSL
    Browser
    Maxthon 3.5.2., IE11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender 4.3.9431.0
    Other Info
    Windows in English, additional user accounts in Finnish, German and Swedish.

Lee

New Member
VIP Member
Power User
USA, Idaho

Posts
1,062
#20
I think that MS along with developers need to first get 64 bit OS's and programing set in concert before jumping into 128 bit. And, as to XP it is time to put it to rest; those who continue to use it are just spinning their wheels in an attempt to make themselves believe it is the right thing to do. Hopefully when the beta for Win 8 is release we can get alway from any discussion over XP, and how much better it is than any of the newer Windows OSs.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8, (VM win7, XP, Vista)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion p1423w
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 3330 Ivy Bridge
    Motherboard
    Foxconn - 2ADA Ivy Brige
    Memory
    16 GB 1066MHz DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 5450
    Sound Card
    HD Realteck (Onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Mitsubishi LED TV/Montior HD, Dell 23 HD, Hanspree 25" HD
    Screen Resolution
    Mit. 1980-1080, Dell 2048-115, Hanspree 1920-10802
    Hard Drives
    1 SanDisk 240Gig SSD, 2 Samsung 512Gig SSDs
    Case
    Tower
    Cooling
    Original (Fans)
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Keyboard 2000
    Mouse
    Microsoft Optical Mouse 5000
    Internet Speed
    1.3 (350 to 1024 if lucky)
    Browser
    Firefox 19.1
    Antivirus
    MSE-Defender

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)