Microsoft as a Subscription?

We will have to wait and see what all this really means....

On the cloud subscription model: "We're well on our way to making that transition in terms of moving from pure licenses to long-term contracts and as well as subscription business model," Nadella told analysts. But he didn't share anything new about when, whether and how Microsoft will move to a subscription model for Windows, as some are expecting.

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Also,,,,

WZor also claims that Microsoft is tinkering with the business model for Windows and may make some kind of base-level version of Windows available for free for everyone, but require a subscription to "turn on" the full set of capabilities and features, similar to the way Microsoft requires Office on iPad users to have an Office 365 subscription to do more than just the simplest of tasks with the free version. I haven't heard anything specifically about this from my contacts (yet).

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For the record, I voted maybe.

 

[Kari]

I for instance, would have to do a lot (with cost going with it) to get international credit card (which here costs a lot to maintain) suffer thru money exchange (there's few percent loss in that) than notify bank about transfer so they release exact amount and that they charge for too.

There are a lot of possibilities to get a Visa or Master Card debit card for almost free, a card which when you have funds uploaded and available can be used as a normal credit card both online and and at POS places.

One which I can vouch for is Skrill (former Moneybookers) at https://www.skrill.com/. It's a PayPal like service. I pay for my Skrill Master Card €10 a year, using it in all those places where I do not want to give my real CC details like for instance online shopping.

Kari

 

[CountMike]

I for instance, would have to do a lot (with cost going with it) to get international credit card (which here costs a lot to maintain) suffer thru money exchange (there's few percent loss in that) than notify bank about transfer so they release exact amount and that they charge for too.

There are a lot of possibilities to get a Visa or Master Card debit card for almost free, a card which when you have funds uploaded and available can be used as a normal credit card both online and and at POS places.

One which I can vouch for is Skrill (former Moneybookers) at https://www.skrill.com/. It's a PayPal like service. I pay for my Skrill Master Card €10 a year, using it in all those places where I do not want to give my real CC details like for instance online shopping.

Kari

Haven't been to places like Serbia lately ??? Still have a long way to go to EU. Besides I managed to live in Canada for 25yrs. without a credit card. Could just imagine what it looks like in some other, poorer countries.

 

[Kari]

Not lately but yes, I have been to Serbia. I also know a Serbian who uses a similar online debit Master Card, without issues.

You being in Serbia has nothing to do with what I told you. Simply, if you want to you have very cheap options available to be able to pay online using one of many existing online debit card systems. As an argument against paid for subscription services living in Serbia is not a valid argument.

 

[labeeman]

Here is a real problem with internet software where you have to be online to use it and it will not go away.

[h=1]Log-in outage hobbles Adobe's Creative Cloud[/h]

 

[Tepid]

I seriously doubt it would be a Google-esque OS. Besides, honestly, the vast majority of people are connected 24x7 anyway. But, I am sure it would be similar to Office 365, where offline is not an issue.

Also, I seriously doubt MS will go through your PC and remove software. Do you realize the mass backlash they would get, have you been paying attention to the whole Win8 b*tchathon?

 

[SIW2]

Steve isn't so keen.

"I want to feel that I own things... the more we transfer everything onto the web, onto the cloud, the less we're going to have control over it."

“Nowadays in the digital world you can hardly own anything anymore. It’s all these subscriptions…

and you’ve already agreed that every right in the world belongs to them and you’ve got no rights. And if you’ve put it on the cloud, you don’t own it. You’ve signed away all the rights to it.

When we grew up ownership was what made America different than Russia.”


Steve Wozniak

 

[jimbo45]

Hi there

Things like skrill are fine -- however why do people always think it's one OR the other -- Why could not say "The Post Office" network be set up to handle these types of payments for people who don't have a credit card or don't want to use one.

In most countries the Post Office stll has a fairly extensive network -- even in some quite small rural communities -- You could just walk into the Post Office, pay the amount over the counter and that's it --job done.

I don't like some Internet transactions myself -- but I'm managing to talk our local Postmistress into doing this -- it's extra business for a very popular and well liked organisation that is finding itself increasingly under threat from new technology every day --here's a service that could esily be done relatively cheaply.

Incidentally "Click and Collect" which is the new buzzword in e-commerce -- has been around here for AGES - again the Post office can (and does) provide a valuable service. !! I can't understand why the concept took so long -- great to order on the Internet but who needs to wait 3 days and then miss the delivery van etc !!!! when with a short drive you can collect it same day from a CONVENIENT location..

(Even to our US colleagues - I found the US Postal service just fine --even right Downtown LA- there are always one or two bad apples in any organisation but the Post Office in whatever country you are in seems to be just fine).

Cheers
jimbo

 

[adamf]

Besides, honestly, the vast majority of people are connected 24x7 anyway.

No mate, they are not. The vast majority of people on this forum and in rich northern countries perhaps.

 

[jimbo45]

Besides, honestly, the vast majority of people are connected 24x7 anyway.

No mate, they are not. The vast majority of people on this forum and in rich northern countries perhaps.

Hi there.

That's why I suggested The Post Office.

However if you've ever been to AFRICA you'll see that even in Tiny villages a lot of people seem to be on mobile phones 24 hrs a day -- I rather suspect that in places like Africa with the exception of some major cities like Cape Town etc the old "copper wire" telephone infrastructure was very old or probably non existent. That's why these places often have BETTER mobile connections than some people in the "richer" more northerly European countries !!!.

Note of course not everybody in these types of countries has access to a computer or Mobile - but for those that do and can afford it the service is well up to par (or even better) with "First World countries". - In the UK outside London and Manchester it's still a struggle to get decent 4G yet --there are providers but the contracts were handed out in such a cackhanded way that the WORST service provider (EE) gets the largest slice of the cake. !!!

Cheers
jimbo

 

[CountMike]

Besides, honestly, the vast majority of people are connected 24x7 anyway.

No mate, they are not. The vast majority of people on this forum and in rich northern countries perhaps.

Yes , that's what boils down to. Google is working on a project to provide most of Africa with internet using solar powered drones and balloons. There's about 1% of Africa covered by internet. Even best of European countries are lagging in internet speed after South Korea but N Korea is close to nothing. There are many other examples like that.
Here, in Belgrade, we have good cable and optical network only in the center, I live 12 KM from center and have to settle for WiFI because cable is pits.

 

[Rickkins]

Let's all shut up and take an actual logical approach to this before raising a pitchfork whilst sitting in your rocking chairs about how you should own the things you buy.

I'm sorry, but no opinions will be suppressed today.

Not even your opinion of an opinion?

Hmmm... I don't know what the hell happened there. In the race between old age and senility, it seems like senility is taking the lead,,,,:huh:

 

[adamf]

Mike, how much to you pay? (Just out of interest - you don't have to answer).

I pay €30 a month (standard rate really) which for some people even here in France is too expensive. So they do not pay and go to internet cafe. My wife's family live in Tunisia - the internet cost is the same as France but their income much lower.

 

[adamf]

Hmmm... I don't know what the hell happened there. In the race between old age and senility, it seems like senility is taking the lead,,,,:huh:

Alcohol I recon. Cheers

 

[CountMike]

Mike, how much to you pay? (Just out of interest - you don't have to answer).

I pay €30 a month (standard rate really) which for some people even here in France is too expensive. So they do not pay and go to internet cafe. My wife's family live in Tunisia - the internet cost is the same as France but their income much lower.

I'm a bit out of town and stuck with WiFi service, (cable sucks here) 12/3 Mbps for about 20 Euro. Got a 3G modem as spare and 3 cell phone cards limited to free talk between them. O, yeah IPTv with only 50 channels that they just started. So, for me to pay another 50 a or so a month for privilege to use Windows would make me an expert in Linux in a hurry.

 

[CountMike]

Hmmm... I don't know what the hell happened there. In the race between old age and senility, it seems like senility is taking the lead,,,,:huh:

Alcohol I recon. Cheers

I forgot which one won the race, senility or what was that other one? No alcohol involved (i think) but wouldn't mind a shot right now.

 

[Rickkins]

Hmmm... I don't know what the hell happened there. In the race between old age and senility, it seems like senility is taking the lead,,,,:huh:

Alcohol I recon. Cheers

Could be, if it was during the last game...
Seinfeld...!!

 

[CountMike]

Hmmm... I don't know what the hell happened there. In the race between old age and senility, it seems like senility is taking the lead,,,,:huh:

Alcohol I recon. Cheers

Could be, if it was during the last game...
Seinfeld...!!

Blue Jays ?, no wander.

 

[adamf]

Alcohol I recon. Cheers

Could be, if it was during the last game...
Seinfeld...!!

Blue Jays ?, no wander.

are you talking about amphetamine like that show (orange is the new black or whatever)?

EDIT: I am an idiot. I meant not "orange is the new black". Clearly it was "bad boy" - you know the one with Kevin Spacey in the toiletGate. Hmm.

 

[Rickkins]

Alcohol I recon. Cheers

Could be, if it was during the last game...
Seinfeld...!!

Blue Jays ?, no wander.

Blue Jays...???
Seriously...???
Check the avatar man, check the avatar....

 

[Rickkins]