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Media Center - Remove and Go Back to Windows 8 Pro


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DK,

I'm glad to hear it went well. :)
 

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jmsnyc

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I have a Surface Pro that came with Windows 8, which I then updated to 8.1.

I added WMC and the key is no good, so I tried to follow this. The only thing is that when I click on the iso link they are for retail versions. None recognize my original product key.

I tried a System Restore point but it goes back only to where I added WMC but before I restarted.

Can I use the "refresh" option rather than an ISO ? I also would be happy to buy a new WMC key for the $9.99 but I do not know how to do it because of the add features already thinks it worked. Is there a way to buy a key seperately, that would be easier for me then to try and get correct iso, burn to usb and reinstall.
 

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I have a Surface Pro that came with Windows 8, which I then updated to 8.1.

I added WMC and the key is no good, so I tried to follow this. The only thing is that when I click on the iso link they are for retail versions. None recognize my original product key.

I tried a System Restore point but it goes back only to where I added WMC but before I restarted.

Can I use the "refresh" option rather than an ISO ? I also would be happy to buy a new WMC key for the $9.99 but I do not know how to do it because of the add features already thinks it worked. Is there a way to buy a key seperately, that would be easier for me then to try and get correct iso, burn to usb and reinstall.
Hello jmsync,

I'm not sure how you added WMC to begin with since it requires a valid WMC key to be able to add it.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/6559-windows-media-center-add-windows-8-a.html

How did you originally add WMC?
 

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In that case, you should be able to refresh or reset Windows to sort it.
 

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Unless you have an image backup available, I'm not sure there's any other option available since you don't have a restore point available dated before this. :(
 

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DK2014

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I also would be happy to buy a new WMC key for the $9.99 but I do not know how to do it because of the add features already thinks it worked. Is there a way to buy a key seperately, that would be easier for me then to try and get correct iso, burn to usb and reinstall.
I spent the better part of an hour on the phone with most of MS's Indian employees trying to just buy the key. Cannot be done. If you don't get it from within windows via the upgrade process, you can't get it. At least not the $9.99 version. They'll happily sell you you the $100 key.. as I was asked if I wanted it a dozen times. I was flat out told you cannot buy the $9.99 key directly from them. I was in the same situation as you. Tried to use the 'freebie' key I snagged back a year or two ago. It expired apparently.
 

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jmsnyc

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I ended up refreshing after undoing the regedit mentioned earlier in this thread.

This sadly reverted me back to Windows 8 and now I am stuck on Windows Update issues, which I need to resolve before reinstalling W8.1

I though refresh was not suppose to remove programs but it seems like it did.

Anyway, as I mentioned the hassle was not worth the $10. I think Microsoft should have included WMC in 8 Pro especially since they are basically not even supporting it anymore.

Lessons Learned:
* Create System Restore Point before trying anything like this
* Have a better recovery strategy which may lead me to starting a new thread - unless I find a good existing one
 

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Thanks OP. I signed up to this forum because this post helped me a lot. Since it's now 2014 and most people are on Win 8.1, I thought I'd share my problem and resolution.

Basically, I had Win 8 Pro upgrade key, updated to Win 8.1 (free from Windows Store), I then applied the free Win 8 Media Center key (from 2013) which invalidated my Win 8.1 Pro key. I was going to follow this guide to restore Windows using my Win 8 Pro install disk. However, since I already upgraded to Win 8.1, the installer did not give me the option to keep my settings, files and apps (as per step 9 of this guide). To overcome this, I had to:

1. Download Windows 8.1 Pro install files by following this guide. Note that step 2 of that guide is particularly important to allow 8.1 ISO to be downloaded using a Win 8 key.

2. After creating my new Win 8.1 Pro install disk, I followed the guide in this post.
Make sure that in Step 3, the ProductName is set "Windows 8.1 Pro". For step 8, use the generic Win 8.1 Pro key: XHQ8N-C3MCJ-RQXB6-WCHYG-C9WKB (or see this guide for other Win 8.1 versions).

3. It then gave me the option to keep settings, files and apps. Continue install as per this guide.

4. Once Win 8.1 Pro has been reinstalled, you can then activate your Windows 8.1 Pro with your Windows 8 key (again see this guide for info).

After doing the above, I was able to get back my Windows 8.1 Pro activated and without Media Center. My apps and settings were all there as well. Again, thanks to Original Poster for this handy guide.
 

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sharif9991

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Can I directly Jump to Windows 8.1 Pro ?

(Seems like an old article)
 

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Thanks OP. I signed up to this forum because this post helped me a lot. Since it's now 2014 and most people are on Win 8.1, I thought I'd share my problem and resolution.

Basically, I had Win 8 Pro upgrade key, updated to Win 8.1 (free from Windows Store), I then applied the free Win 8 Media Center key (from 2013) which invalidated my Win 8.1 Pro key. I was going to follow this guide to restore Windows using my Win 8 Pro install disk. However, since I already upgraded to Win 8.1, the installer did not give me the option to keep my settings, files and apps (as per step 9 of this guide). To overcome this, I had to:

1. Download Windows 8.1 Pro install files by following this guide. Note that step 2 of that guide is particularly important to allow 8.1 ISO to be downloaded using a Win 8 key.

2. After creating my new Win 8.1 Pro install disk, I followed the guide in this post.
Make sure that in Step 3, the ProductName is set "Windows 8.1 Pro". For step 8, use the generic Win 8.1 Pro key: XHQ8N-C3MCJ-RQXB6-WCHYG-C9WKB (or see this guide for other Win 8.1 versions).

3. It then gave me the option to keep settings, files and apps. Continue install as per this guide.

4. Once Win 8.1 Pro has been reinstalled, you can then activate your Windows 8.1 Pro with your Windows 8 key (again see this guide for info).

After doing the above, I was able to get back my Windows 8.1 Pro activated and without Media Center. My apps and settings were all there as well. Again, thanks to Original Poster for this handy guide.
This is perfect!! Thank you for sharing this information
 

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sharif9991

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@Op I suggest adding these
  • Update post to direct W8.1 pro
  • Make sure to uninstall antivirus such as AVAST
  • Update Registry edit to
    After creating my new Win 8.1 Pro install disk, I followed the guide in this post. Make sure that in Step 3, the ProductName is set "Windows 8.1 Pro"
  • Use generic ID for people with windows 8 key and than add it later after installation
 

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Terrum

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Thanks OP. I signed up to this forum because this post helped me a lot. Since it's now 2014 and most people are on Win 8.1, I thought I'd share my problem and resolution.

Basically, I had Win 8 Pro upgrade key, updated to Win 8.1 (free from Windows Store), I then applied the free Win 8 Media Center key (from 2013) which invalidated my Win 8.1 Pro key. I was going to follow this guide to restore Windows using my Win 8 Pro install disk. However, since I already upgraded to Win 8.1, the installer did not give me the option to keep my settings, files and apps (as per step 9 of this guide). To overcome this, I had to:

1. Download Windows 8.1 Pro install files by following this guide. Note that step 2 of that guide is particularly important to allow 8.1 ISO to be downloaded using a Win 8 key.

2. After creating my new Win 8.1 Pro install disk, I followed the guide in this post.
Make sure that in Step 3, the ProductName is set "Windows 8.1 Pro". For step 8, use the generic Win 8.1 Pro key: XHQ8N-C3MCJ-RQXB6-WCHYG-C9WKB (or see this guide for other Win 8.1 versions).

3. It then gave me the option to keep settings, files and apps. Continue install as per this guide.

4. Once Win 8.1 Pro has been reinstalled, you can then activate your Windows 8.1 Pro with your Windows 8 key (again see this guide for info).

After doing the above, I was able to get back my Windows 8.1 Pro activated and without Media Center. My apps and settings were all there as well. Again, thanks to Original Poster for this handy guide.
This is a brilliant fix. Really appreciated!

But unfortunately since performing this downgrade from Windows 8 Media Center to Windows 8 Pro, I've experienced a few issues:
- IE11 will only access msn.com (Chrome will access any site, I can only presume this issue is related to the Windows Update issue explained below)
- Start screen will freeze up sometimes (May be completely irrelevant)
- Windows Updates will not check for updates with the following error code: 80072F8F (My computer and BIOS time, date and timezone are all correct)

Any suggestions?

EDIT: Actually it seems to be that I can't access any secure site (any site with HTTPS). Even though it works fine in Chrome. I can't access the IP directly either (if I were to ping google.com and try type the IP into IE).
 
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It is unfortunate, but I have tried 4 times to downgrade from Windows 8.1Pro/wmc to standard 8,1 Pro, and have failed every time. The install seems to work, then upon the first startup afterwards, the windows starts to load and then the system resets. When windows loads again it shows a screen stating that "We couldn't install windows 8.1. We've set your PC back to the way it was before you started installing..."with the code 0x101-0x20017. I have looked around and tried disabling startup programs and anything else I have found. it is quite perplexing. Has anyone else run into this and if so, what may have gotten them over this issue? Thanks.
 

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It is unfortunate, but I have tried 4 times to downgrade from Windows 8.1Pro/wmc to standard 8,1 Pro, and have failed every time. The install seems to work, then upon the first startup afterwards, the windows starts to load and then the system resets. When windows loads again it shows a screen stating that "We couldn't install windows 8.1. We've set your PC back to the way it was before you started installing..."with the code 0x101-0x20017. I have looked around and tried disabling startup programs and anything else I have found. it is quite perplexing. Has anyone else run into this and if so, what may have gotten them over this issue? Thanks.
This happened to me, over and over. Basically I just kept uninstalling programs/drivers between attempts until it eventually worked. MS Office was one of the last programs I tried uninstalling (among a few others) before it worked, so that may have been the culprit.

Additionally you might want to try a clean boot, and some others have reported success removing unnecessary hardware (e.g. disconnecting secondary hard drives, etc.)

Good luck, I basically wasted a whole day on it.
 

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kurkosdr

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Ouch! I still can't believe a silly Media Center app forced me to do an in-place upgrade of the entire OS! At what planet does a Media Center app is so interwoven with the OS that it requires forklifting the OS to remove?

And how about checking if the Media Pack key I was sold was blacklisted BEFORE making the so-called "OS upgrade" from an otherwise legit and activated installation? (I have the envelope with the COA sticker and everything)

Definitely a black spot from a software vendor otherwise known for an effortless software activation experience.

And as a nerd who views "upgraded" Windows installations as slower and buggier than clean installed ones (before that, all my Windows installations were clean installed) I am still worked up over this.

Seriously, whoever at Microsoft is responsible for making "Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center" its own OS version can drop dead.
 

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