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crawfish

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For years, if you are logged onto live.com, Microsoft has been redirecting google search results for msn.com, Technet, MSDN, etc through login.live.com.

1. Sometimes it doesn't work, and it's stalls on login.live.com.
2. When it does work, it tends to kill the browser back button, which gets stuck in a loop, keeping you on the same page. You have to drop down the history menu and select the search results page from it to get back.
3. There have been sites that use live.com and allow you to check a box to keep you logged in but don't respect your choice to stay logged in. MSDN was like this for a very long time.
4. If you had two Windows Live IDs, say, for MSDN and Zune, i.e. business vs. (attempted) pleasure, you could forget about staying logged onto both within the same browser, because it's one or the other at a time.

So with all this fail dating back several years, has Microsoft ever fixed anything? Of course not. Instead, they've double-downed on it by building it into Windows HE and insisting it's the best way to log in. So that makes five.

Oh well. I will continue to use Windows 7 and keep IE around solely for MSDN and other sites I still need that use the horrible Windows Live IDs. A single login was a bad idea in 1996 or thereabouts when it was called Passport, and it's only gotten worse with time as Microsoft has expanded the use of it. It's things like this that almost make me believe the Customer Contempt Policy is a real thing. I joke about it, but it's hard to explain things like this any other way. Or maybe my other joke about corporate dementia or psychosis is the right one here. It truly baffles me.
 

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Mystere

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I'm sorry, I've never seen #1 and #2 that you speak of. How exactly can Microsoft control googles search results?

#3 seems to be a problem with the 3rd party sites, not live.com

#4 is valid, and I dislike that as well. I did find a nice workaround though, using in private browsing, you can log in to both (cookies are kept separate). Or you can login with different browsers (chrome and ff, or IE)
 

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crawfish

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I'm sorry, I've never seen #1 and #2 that you speak of. How exactly can Microsoft control googles search results?

You must not ever sign into live.com or Microsoft sites that use it, or you've somehow managed not to notice the anomalies it causes. I'm not the only one who's written about these things over the years, which you can see by googling /microsoft redirecting through login.live.com/. Google doesn't link to live.com. It links directly to pages on Microsoft sites. It is Microsoft that redirects through live.com when you go to those pages, and it doesn't matter how you go to them. You can copy/paste into the address bar or use Bing, and it's the same thing, in both Firefox and IE.

#3 seems to be a problem with the 3rd party sites, not live.com

Huh? I'm talking only about Microsoft sites. The problem is with Microsoft's usage of live.com for everything. And now they want to make it the primary Windows logon, which only exacerbates the fail.
 

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It is Microsoft that redirects through live.com when you go to those pages, and it doesn't matter how you go to them. You can copy/paste into the address bar or use Bing, and it's the same thing, in both Firefox and IE.

So it has nothing to do with google results. Why mention google when as you just admit, it doesn't matter if it comes from google or not?

A windows live account is not necessary to login to Windows 8. You can choose to use a plain old regular login. I do.
 

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crawfish

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So it has nothing to do with google results. Why mention google when as you just admit, it doesn't matter if it comes from google or not?

Because that's how I get to the sites. Sorry if you found it misleading. I didn't imagine anyone would claim to be wholly unfamiliar with the problem in general.

A windows live account is not necessary to login to Windows 8. You can choose to use a plain old regular login. I do.

I know. I never said or implied it was necessary, just that Microsoft is pushing it, strongly.
 

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Mcollins756

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I just upgraded windows 7 to windows 8 Pro with out a hitch. I decided to use one of my live accounts to login to windows 8 and it worked fine and I spent some time getting a few things done on my new windows 8 desktop. I downloaded chrome and was able to get it to work.

I upgraded quicken and was forced to reboot.

Now, I'm locked out of my computer because windows 8 login through live.com fails saying my password is incorrect.

I am however able to login to my live.com account using the same credentials on my phone.

I really need any suggestions you all might have to get me back to work.

SUMMARY:
I'm unable to login to my live.com on my computer error "wrong password"... But I am able to successfully login to my live.com account using the same credentials on my phone. Thanks
 

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