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Kapersky Internet Security 2014 + 2 PCs = 2 Broken PCs :)

tackyjan

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Last night I installed Kaperskey Internet Security 2014 on both my PC and my Laptop. I ran it for about 1 hour and quickly decided I hated it for the following reasons:

- Too many notifications (even when I seemingly turned them off in settings)

- Had to confirm connection to home WiFi network every time I logged in

- Three web browser extensions, all IMO unnecessary:
a. Safe Money
b. Virtual Keyboard
c. URL Checker

- Every time I ran some of my own batch files to cleanup Windows I had to confirm. No way to turn this off.

etc.

When I tried to uninstall Krapersky on BOTH machines I got a fatal error which locked up my computers forcing me to reboot. When I got back in to Windows my keyboard AND mouse were not working (remember, this is both computers).

I tried everything I could think of to fix the kb/mouse. I tried restarting in safe mode, Windows Startup Repair, System Restore, different hardware on different USB ports, SFC /scannow, etc. but nothing worked. So at 3 AM last night I proceed to re-install fresh copies of Win 8.1 on 2 different computers! LOL. :)

Anyway, I am fed up with anti-virus programs nowadays. They are almost worse than having an actual virus! :) They hijack everything in your computer and affect both the user experience and performance. I am so fed up I have reverted to just using Windows Defender and Firewall.

Ideally what I would like is an antivirus that really does nothing till i tell it to scan, then it can find the most number of threats. I would like it to basically do nothing until I tell it to scan. (I used to use an older program called Comodo Cleaning Essentials which didn't run in the background, you just started it when you wanted to check for threats, however, for some reason it doesn't work anymore and IDK why.)

Is there such an anti-virus program out there? If so, please let me know. :)

Thank you,

~Jan
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro

Nuccii

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Agreed, Kaspersky is the pitts. Built in Windows Defender does the job efficiently without hogging all the resources. I would not turn off real time protection though because if you do, you will be left wide open to attacks.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 8.1 Update 1 Pro 64bit
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Pavillion H8-1202
    CPU
    I7-2600 @ 3.4 GHz
    Motherboard
    PEGATRON
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NIVDIA GeForce GT 520
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC656GR CODEC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster S22B350
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1080 32 bit color
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 850 EVO SSD 500GB
    Keyboard
    Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2013
    Mouse
    Logitech M510

brkkab123

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Easier solution first. Try System Restore on each and restore them to before you installed Kaspersky. Solution 2. Search Kaspersky's website for a removal tool. Option 3. Use Revo-Uninstaller to uninstall Kasperky on both while in Safe Mode. After Revo-Uninstaller removes Kaspersky, run SearchEverything and type in Kaspersky in it's seach box. Delete everyything it finds and empty the recycle bin. Now restart your pc. Revo Uninstaller link Revo Uninstaller Pro - Uninstall Software, Remove Programs easily, Forced Uninstall, Leftovers Uninstaller, Portable Uninstaller SearchEverything link Everything Search Engine
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    self built
    CPU
    AMD FX 8350
    Motherboard
    Asus Sabertooth 990fx r2.0
    Memory
    G-Skill Ripjaws-X DDR3 2400 16 gbs.
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI N760 TF 2GD5OC
    Sound Card
    on-bord Realtek ALC 889/ALC 892
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic VX2250wm-LED
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 840 Pro 256 gb. ssd. & Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 3.o tb.
    PSU
    Corsair HX-850 watt
    Case
    Corsair Carbide 500r White
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro Series H-100, 3 120mm. & 1 200mm. case fan's
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    30 m.b.p.s.
    Browser
    IE 11 & Firefox 26
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Internet Security 2014
    Other Info
    Iomega Pro Series U.S.B. 2.0/eS.A.T.A. 2.0tb. h.d., Seagate Backup Plus U.S.B. 3.0 3.0tb. h.d., Hauppage WinTV HVR-1850 t.v. tuner, Logitech x530 5.1 speaker's, Logitech c615 webcam, Logitech h150 headset, M.S. Xbox 360 wired gamepad & Xbox 360 as W.M.C. extender

tackyjan

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Easier solution first. Try System Restore on each and restore them to before you installed Kaspersky. Solution 2. Search Kaspersky's website for a removal tool. Option 3. Use Revo-Uninstaller to uninstall Kasperky on both while in Safe Mode. After Revo-Uninstaller removes Kaspersky, run SearchEverything and type in Kaspersky in it's seach box. Delete everyything it finds and empty the recycle bin. Now restart your pc. Revo Uninstaller link Revo Uninstaller Pro - Uninstall Software, Remove Programs easily, Forced Uninstall, Leftovers Uninstaller, Portable Uninstaller SearchEverything link Everything Search Engine

Thanks for the tips. :) Yeah I should have done something like that before I went all out and re-installed Windows. :O

As far as System Restore, I tried that. Even went back 1 day but the keyboard and mouse issue was still there. I think it was an issue with the USB drivers. I tried to change my BIOS to enable legacy, I tried copying usbXXX.sys from a friend's Win 8.1 machine to mine, etc. but nothing worked.

I think perhaps Krapersky hijacked the core system drivers to protect them (?).

Apparently System Restore doesn't handle mouse/kb drivers?

As I stated earlier, I also booted into a command prompt and ran SFC /scannow which reported no issues.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro

brkkab123

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Check in your bios/uefi and see if it shows your keyboard & mouse listed. If it doesn't, click on what ever key it say's to load either "Optimized Defaults" or "Default" values, then hit the F10 key to save the changes and see what happens. When you reinstalled Windows, was it a upgrade install or a clean install ?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    self built
    CPU
    AMD FX 8350
    Motherboard
    Asus Sabertooth 990fx r2.0
    Memory
    G-Skill Ripjaws-X DDR3 2400 16 gbs.
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI N760 TF 2GD5OC
    Sound Card
    on-bord Realtek ALC 889/ALC 892
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic VX2250wm-LED
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 840 Pro 256 gb. ssd. & Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 3.o tb.
    PSU
    Corsair HX-850 watt
    Case
    Corsair Carbide 500r White
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro Series H-100, 3 120mm. & 1 200mm. case fan's
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    30 m.b.p.s.
    Browser
    IE 11 & Firefox 26
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Internet Security 2014
    Other Info
    Iomega Pro Series U.S.B. 2.0/eS.A.T.A. 2.0tb. h.d., Seagate Backup Plus U.S.B. 3.0 3.0tb. h.d., Hauppage WinTV HVR-1850 t.v. tuner, Logitech x530 5.1 speaker's, Logitech c615 webcam, Logitech h150 headset, M.S. Xbox 360 wired gamepad & Xbox 360 as W.M.C. extender

TairikuOkami

Be nice to all, please?!
Pro User
Install it again and after restart uninstall it with Removal tool to uninstall Kaspersky Lab products

Last night I installed Kaperskey Internet Security 2014 on both my PC and my Laptop. I ran it for about 1 hour and quickly decided I hated it for the following reasons:

- Too many notifications (even when I seemingly turned them off in settings)

- Had to confirm connection to home WiFi network every time I logged in

- Three web browser extensions, all IMO unnecessary:
a. Safe Money
b. Virtual Keyboard
c. URL Checker

- Every time I ran some of my own batch files to cleanup Windows I had to confirm. No way to turn this off.
I wonder, why have not use used only Anti-Virus then instead of KIS, which includes those extra features?
Also not sure, but mostly you can choose, what do you want to install during a setup or disable it later.
Like AVG Free, where you have to uncheck everything like linkscanner and then disable email scanner.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1.1 Pro x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo E525
    CPU
    AMD A4-3300M @ 2,0GHz
    Memory
    6GB DDR3 1333MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon HD 6480G 512MB shared
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    WD 465GB
    Cooling
    Fusion Tweaker
    Keyboard
    Logitech K360
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
    Internet Speed
    50/50 MBps
    Browser
    Yandex
    Antivirus
    No AV & No Firewall
    Other Info
    Headphones: Sennheiser RS170

edee

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I am finding that all these AV companies are overthinking their products way too much instead of keeping what is most important in mind, they add all this other JUNK to their programs instead of just worrying about the product itself which is antivirus.

Since Windows 8 has been released all antivirus products have just gotten worse, I've tried them all, Norton, Bitdefender, Eset, Avast, and even Kaspersky and every one of them in one way or another does not play well with Windows 8 and up.

The only combination that seems to work without any problems whatsoever is using Windows Defender, Windows Firewall and Malwarebytes Pro.

I mean it's gotten to the point where you cannot even trust one of the highest rated free antivirus Avast! because there software was installing adware Avast Antivirus Was Spying On You with Adware (Until This Week)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64 / Windows 8.1 Pro x64 Dual Boot
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    Memory
    8 gigs
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GE Force 5200
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP 2009M x's 2
    Screen Resolution
    1600 x 900 x's 2
    Hard Drives
    One internal Western Digital HD 650 GB
    Three external Western Digital HD's - 1 TB each

torre

New Member
Power User
No intention to start a debate, but I have used Kaspersky for years without any issues. Like any AV, it does use resources but KIS 2014 is very light.

The plugins like Safe Money, URL checker, etc can be disabled if the user prefers. I have uninstalled Kaspersky using the Unistall Tool from Kaspersky which completely removed from my system.

That said, my Kaspersky license expired 1 month ago and I am currently using Windows Defender and Malwarebytes free edition as a backup scanner. So far it is excellent, but the only advantage on resources I can detect is very slight decrease in startup and shutdown time.

As often stated in this forum, Windows Defender is normally adequate for the average home user but commercial AVs are not always villans.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1 64bit
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Toshiba
    CPU
    Intel i3, 2348
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD3000

Odos270

New Member
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Kaspersky=SUCKS! 4 times now I've had to do a FULL reset (Win8) because of Kaspersky. Speccy+KIS is a nightmare. KIS gets corrupted and takes Windows with it. The last time (couple of weeks ago) it was a power flicker. TV went off, came back on. Computer shut off. When I turned the computer back on, I got popups about avpui.exe. I then had 3 instances of KIS in the tray. Their uninstall utility didn't work. I did a dirty rip. No good because Windows was corrupted too. :(
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 64bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP h8 envy 1534
    CPU
    AMD FX-6200 (3.8GHz)
    Motherboard
    M3970AM-HP (Angelica2) (Gigabyte)
    Memory
    10GB DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    Eyefinity Radeon HD 7570
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Kaskersky Internet Security 2016

visruth

Well-Known Member
Pro User
KIS 2014 is doing very good in my personal laptop with Win 8.1. It delays start up time for few seconds like any other 3rd party AV but after SSD upgrade, nothing of that sort could be noticed further. I have no add-ons like virtual keyboard, safe money etc enabled , so no adverse affect on browser startup and function. No frequent notifications come up for me.
If it messes up my system, I'll get it uninstalled. But till now no such instances ever happened to me fortunately. I had purchased it after reviews of KIS 2014 being lighter on system than its previous versions.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1 Update x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 15
    CPU
    Haswell Core i5 4200U
    Memory
    8GB Dual-Channel DDR3L @1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD 4400 Integrated; 2GB Dedicated NVIDIA GT 740M
    Hard Drives
    500GB Samsung 840 EVO Internal SSD ;
    2TB WD MyPassport Ultra EHDD ;
    1TB TOSHIBA HDD
    Cooling
    Deepcool X6
    Mouse
    Logitech B175 Wireless Mouse
    Internet Speed
    10 Mbps
    Browser
    Opera v25.0
    Antivirus
    KIS 2014
    Other Info
    Microsoft Wired Xbox 360 Controller

TairikuOkami

Be nice to all, please?!
Pro User
Kaspersky=SUCKS! 4 times now I've had to do a FULL reset (Win8) because of Kaspersky. Speccy+KIS is a nightmare. KIS gets corrupted and takes Windows with it.
Security products tend to cause problems like that. Windows kernel is way too secure thanks to patchguard and such and security companies refuse to upgrade their products accordingly. That is one of the reason, why I do use any realtime security and my PC is problem free, no more crashing, games and soft unable to run.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1.1 Pro x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo E525
    CPU
    AMD A4-3300M @ 2,0GHz
    Memory
    6GB DDR3 1333MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon HD 6480G 512MB shared
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    WD 465GB
    Cooling
    Fusion Tweaker
    Keyboard
    Logitech K360
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
    Internet Speed
    50/50 MBps
    Browser
    Yandex
    Antivirus
    No AV & No Firewall
    Other Info
    Headphones: Sennheiser RS170

CountMike

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Just like any other SW, AVs should be balanced between computer "power", system and security needs. If one has need for enhanced or extreme protection, than computer itself has to match that requirement but also to be ready to "suffer" with it's drawbacks. With increasing threats, comes increased need for protection and that of course can tax system. Some of that can be alleviated by being careful and informed. Perfect balance is pretty difficult to achieve.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home made
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen7 2700x
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime x470 Pro
    Memory
    16GB Kingston 3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus strix 570 OC 4gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 960 evo 250GB
    Silicon Power V70 240GB SSD
    WD 1 TB Blue
    WD 2 TB Blue
    Bunch of backup HDDs.
    PSU
    Sharkoon, Silent Storm 660W
    Case
    Raidmax
    Cooling
    CCM Nepton 140xl
    Internet Speed
    40/2 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    WD
Using something like Macrium Reflect to image one's OS is a good idea.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Gateway
    CPU
    AMD K140 Cores 2 Threads 2 Name AMD K140 Package Socket FT1 BGA Technology 40nm
    Motherboard
    Manufacturer Gateway Model SX2110G (P0)
    Memory
    Type DDR3 Size 8192 MBytes DRAM Frequency 532.3 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics
    Sound Card
    AMD High Definition Audio Device Realtek High Definition Audio USB Audio Device
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Name 1950W on AMD Radeon HD 7310 Graphics Current Resolution 1366x768 pixels Work Resolution 1366x76
    Screen Resolution
    Current Resolution 1366x768 pixels Work Resolution 1366x768 pixels
    Hard Drives
    AMD K140
    Cores 2
    Threads 2
    Name AMD K140
    Package Socket FT1 BGA
    Technology 40nm
    Specification AMD E1-1200 APU with Radeon HD Graphics
    Family F
    Extended Family 14
    Model 2
    Extended Model 2
    Stepping 0
    Revision ON-C0
    Instruction
    Browser
    Opera 24.0
    Antivirus
    Avast Internet Security

play2mefish

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I think you should try F-Prot. That is what I use and it works great and does not hog system resources. you never know its there until you need it. The way an Anti Virus program should be.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro
    System Manufacturer/Model
    ASRock 990FX Killer
    CPU
    AMD FX 8320
    Motherboard
    ASRock 990 FX Killer
    Memory
    32gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte GTX 750i
    Sound Card
    Realtek (Stock on MB)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS 27 HD Monitor & a 37" LCD HD TV Screen (For movies)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1 250 GB SS hard drive for OS
    1 1TB hard drive for data / mirrored to a second 1 TB hd.
    PSU
    650W
    Case
    No name tower
    Cooling
    Enermax Liqtech 240
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Internet Speed
    Dnload 10.48 Upload .48
    Browser
    IE 11 and Chrome when IE doesn't work
    Antivirus
    F-PROT

altae

New Member
Power User
I always recommend GData Internet Security. Has never let me down so far and it's generally trouble free. Ok, no software has no bugs at all but this one is very well designed according to my experiences.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Update 1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    self built
    CPU
    AMD FX-8350
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD7 Rev. 3
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Zotac GTX 770 Amp 2 GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    GDATA Internet Security

azasadny

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Windows Defender and MalwareBytes are all I use...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 10 Pro 64bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home built Intel i7-3770k-based system
    CPU
    Intel i7-3770k, Overclocked to 4.6GHz (46x100) with Corsair H110i GT cooler
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z77 OC Formula 2.30 BIOS
    Memory
    32GB DDR3 2133 Corsair Vengeance Pro
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce GTX 980ti SC ACS 6GB DDR5 by EVGA
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD, Corsair SP2500 speakers and subwoofer
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 27EA33 [Monitor] (27.2"vis) HDMI
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB (system drive)
    WD 6TB Red NAS hard drives x 2 in Storage Spaces (redundancy)
    PSU
    Corsair 750ax fully modular power supply with sleeved cables
    Case
    Corsair Air 540 with 7 x 140mm fans on front, rear and top panels
    Cooling
    Corsair H110i GT liquid cooled CPU with 4 x 140" Corsair SP "push-pull" and 3 x 140mm fans
    Keyboard
    Thermaltake Poseidon Z illuminated keyboard
    Mouse
    Corsair M65 wired
    Internet Speed
    85MBps DSL
    Browser
    Chrome and Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, MalwareBytes Pro and CCleaner Pro
    Other Info
    Client of Windows Server 2012 R2 10 PC's, laptops and smartphones on the WLAN.

    1GBps Ethernet ports

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