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Installing Windows 8 Core with embedded key


Surgikill

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#21
Where can I get a clean copy of 8.1? I'd like to install 8.1 directly
 

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And now it is working like normal. It only works like normal every now and again. Would Event Viewer show me anything useful, like the driver crashing or something?
 

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Okay I may have come across something. It stopped working again and I found this in event viewer. It says a multitouch device reported inconsistent contact information.

Something that is interesting is that this happens at the same time as an event that says "Touch Hardware Quality Assurance verification succeeded." Event ID 267
 

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Where can I get a clean copy of 8.1? I'd like to install 8.1 directly
That's hard to do if all you have is an OEM key. The only legit download other than MSDN won't accept OEM keys. I get mine via MSDN but I have a subscription.
 

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Okay I may have come across something. It stopped working again and I found this in event viewer. It says a multitouch device reported inconsistent contact information.

Something that is interesting is that this happens at the same time as an event that says "Touch Hardware Quality Assurance verification succeeded." Event ID 267
I wish I knew what that meant? About all it tells me is there is an issue with the touch pad, but we already know that. About all you can do is google it, or wait for somebody with some expertise in that area to post.
 

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    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
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    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
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    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
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Here's my device manager. It is showing two unknown devices and a touch screen and my touchpad. Currently the touchpad is working, the touch screen is not working. Could they be interfering with each other? I may pull the bottom off and check all the connections but if device manager notices them they should be okay right?
 

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I read though this whole thread again. I'm going rehash some of it.
This PC originally came with Windows 8 right?
Then you had issues that required a reinstall, what were they?
You say it wouldn't work with Windows 7, what issues did you have there?
On this last install you again had issues, Windows update etc? Was everything working correctly before upgrading to 8.1?
If you have unknown devices in device manager I would look for the drivers for that hardware. Maybe the touch screen is messing things up.
 

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    AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
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    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
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    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
    Sound Card
    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
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    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
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    Thermaltake TR 620
    Case
    Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
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    Stock heatsink fan
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    Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
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As I mentioned in a PM, you may be able to create a Windows 8.1 USB flash drive to install from if you did the Windows 8.1 upgrade via the MS store.

See here: How to Create a Recovery USB Flash Drive in Windows 8 and 8.1

Option Three shows you how to create an ISO using the ESD-ISO tools after you did a store upgrade.
See if you have a C:\ESD file and if yes, follow the instructions in the link.
 

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Thanks for that Ztruker, I was looking for info like that and missed it some how. :thumb:
 

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Does that mean you have C:\ESD? If so that's good news indeed.
 

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Um, I don't but the OP might. ;)
 

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    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
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Oops :eek:
 

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I'll try making recovery media but I'm worried the problems will be carried over.

@alphanumeric to answer your questions.

Yes, it originally came with Windows 8

I was having blue screens due to bad RAM. That was the original reason to reinstall

The issues with Windows 7 were battery life and driver support.

Everything was working correctly before upgrading to 8.1

I tried searching for the drivers but Windows update couldn't find them. I'm going to see if I can figure out what the devices are.
 

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    HP ENVY TouchSmart m6 Sleekbook
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    i5 4200 u
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    8gb DDR3 1600
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    Intel HD 4400
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If you mean via the ESD folder, that is not recovery media. It's a full Windows 8.1 iso that you will create.

OPTION THREE
To Create a Windows 8 or 8.1 ISO File from "C:\ESD\Windows" Folder
 

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    Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Integrated HD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP h2207
    Screen Resolution
    [email protected]
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung EVO SATA-3 SSD;
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 SATA-2;
    1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA
    PSU
    500W
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    Wired USB
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    Wired USB
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    3GB Up, 30GB Down
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#35
I don't have an esd folder. I do have a Windows.old folder though.
 

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Those unknown devices are the HP 3D driveGuard and the HP wireless button driver.
 

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I don't have an esd folder. I do have a Windows.old folder though.
It's a hidden folder by the way, just in case you didn't know. You'll have to set "show hidden files and folders". and maybe uncheck the "hide protected system files", to see it.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit
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    Asus
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
    Memory
    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
    Sound Card
    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
    PSU
    Thermaltake TR 620
    Case
    Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Stock heatsink fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
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    Logitech M570 Trackball and T650 TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
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I'll try making recovery media but I'm worried the problems will be carried over.

@alphanumeric to answer your questions.

Yes, it originally came with Windows 8

I was having blue screens due to bad RAM. That was the original reason to reinstall

The issues with Windows 7 were battery life and driver support.

Everything was working correctly before upgrading to 8.1

I tried searching for the drivers but Windows update couldn't find them. I'm going to see if I can figure out what the devices are.
You replaced the bad RAM right?

You may have to get the drivers from HP.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
    Memory
    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
    Sound Card
    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
    PSU
    Thermaltake TR 620
    Case
    Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Stock heatsink fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech M570 Trackball and T650 TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2

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Those unknown devices are the HP 3D driveGuard and the HP wireless button driver.
The driver guard is a drop sensor. It will signal the hard drive to park the heads if it senses that you dropped the laptop. That likely shows up as a utility on the HP site not a driver. Same thing for the Wireless button driver. I think that's tied in with Windows 8's airplane mode. It lets you turn the WIFI on off for places where its restricted from being used. On my ASUS its listed as Wireless Radio Control utility.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit
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    Asus
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
    Memory
    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
    Sound Card
    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
    PSU
    Thermaltake TR 620
    Case
    Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Stock heatsink fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech M570 Trackball and T650 TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2

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Bad RAM was replaced, both drivers downloaded and installed, there's no esd folder, I have hidden folders shown.
 

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    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP ENVY TouchSmart m6 Sleekbook
    CPU
    i5 4200 u
    Memory
    8gb DDR3 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD 4400
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender

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