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marx

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after all the hundreds of updates windows 10 has bombed on my laptop in Nov 2015 it has slowed somewhat. not much. but tried windows 8.1 i had lying round. what a difference in responsiveness.
 

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Slavic

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Very reasonable decision. In a few words, you confirmed why people, whose PCs are Win10-compatible, intentionally decide to keep 8.1 as long as possible.
 

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RolandJS

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Slavic, that is one reason, of many, for me keeping W7 on my two laptops.
 

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hake

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Only 29 months of support left. Shame that Microsoft is so obsessed with features that it neglects quality and reliability. Windows 8.1 does not cause its users to be filled with dread as each Patch Tuesday approaches.
 
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erpster4

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Only 29 months of support left. Shame that Microsoft is so obsessed with features that it neglects quality and reliability. Windows 8.1 does not cause its users to be filled with dread as each Patch Tuesday approaches.

true

though the only thing missing in W8.1 is a start menu (the Open Shell app takes care of that problem)
 

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TechnoMage

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For anyone that liked the UI of Windows 7 or even XP, the install of the "Classic Shell" in Windows 8.1 is a must.
That just makes 8.1 so much more "User Friendly".
I never install 8.1 without installing the Classic Shell.

Little known fact: A HD or SSD, once set up with Win 8.1, can be moved to another PC or laptop, and it will set itself up just like doing a clean install. All the drivers for the new location will be installed during the first boot, which may take several minutes. I've done this multiple times, and it works great.

The OS I'm running now, is a clone of Win-8.1 on my Main PC. And, it's running GREAT! My restart time is only 20 seconds.

Cheers Mates!
Happy Columbus Day!

TM :cool:
 

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    Using Classic Shell on Win-8.1 /pro/64
For anyone that liked the UI of Windows 7 or even XP, the install of the "Classic Shell" in Windows 8.1 is a must.
That just makes 8.1 so much more "User Friendly".
I never install 8.1 without installing the Classic Shell.

Little known fact: A HD or SSD, once set up with Win 8.1, can be moved to another PC or laptop, and it will set itself up just like doing a clean install. All the drivers for the new location will be installed during the first boot, which may take several minutes. I've done this multiple times, and it works great.

The OS I'm running now, is a clone of Win-8.1 on my Main PC. And, it's running GREAT! My restart time is only 20 seconds.

Cheers Mates!
Happy Columbus Day!

TM :cool:
I absolutely agree. a start menu makes things so much easier and accessible. I find it humorous how my daughters differ in tastes however. One insists on using it and the other insists they don't need it. Windows 8.1 is on nearly all our computers except the newest ones as it is no longer compatible with those two, unfortunately.
 

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    X99 E-WS USB 3.1, CROSSHAIR HERO VIII
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TechnoMage

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No longer compatible? In what way?
 

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    Using Classic Shell on Win-8.1 /pro/64
The system board isn't compatible. For example I installed Win 8.1 on my HERO and kept getting warning messages from Microsoft stating that the o/s was not compatible to the build and insisted that I upgrade to Windows 10.
 

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    X99 E-WS USB 3.1, CROSSHAIR HERO VIII
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Teeotsa

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The system board isn't compatible. For example I installed Win 8.1 on my HERO and kept getting warning messages from Microsoft stating that the o/s was not compatible to the build and insisted that I upgrade to Windows 10.
Ah that doesn't really matter. Just don't update your system or you can use "wufuc" to bypass those messages
 

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    I don't update my installation of Windows. I find it unnecessary.
    Also, i've disabled Windows Defender and Windows Firewall because i don't need them!😂
Ah that doesn't really matter. Just don't update your system or you can use "wufuc" to bypass those messages

Aw c'mon. I was the one who kept wrestling with the hangs, the freezes, and all the rest of the b.s. that goes with using a non-compliant o/s. Doesn't matter? If I have to wufuc everything every time I get a message and my o/s hangs I have a better solution: LINUX. Which is precisely what I did and got Win 10 installed at a later date, legitimately, and practically for free. (Of course I had to do some major surgery on the o/s as I don't much care for Windoze "keylogger" edition and I really don't use a lot of that "call home" telemetry. Oh, and the "just don't update" approach is the basic reason why so many Windows users are eligble for the Darwin award. Or let me guess, you're joking.
 
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    X99 E-WS USB 3.1, CROSSHAIR HERO VIII
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    128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR, 32 GB TEAM GROUP T FORCE
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Teeotsa

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    3rd Gen Intel CPU
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    HyperX Fury DDR3 2x4GB 1866MHz
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    Intel HD 2500
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    Samsung SyncMaster 720N
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    1280x1024
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    Kingston A400 240GB
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    I don't update my installation of Windows. I find it unnecessary.
    Also, i've disabled Windows Defender and Windows Firewall because i don't need them!😂
Well, okay then. I apologize if I came off a bit rude there but essentially failure to do updates with Windows is generally tantamount to shooting yourself in the foot. But there's grace for this as often enough, staying on top of Windoze updates is tantamount to shooting yourself in the other foot. :::shrugs::: It's a gamble every time. What can I say? Mind, on the Hero system board it automatically starts screaming at you that you're using the wrong o/s before you even update so it's a moot point. LINUX isn't without its problems either. There's just no perfect o/s, which is probably why I use 4 different operating systems on a regular basis. The thing about failing to do Windows updates is that eventually it will come around and bite you in the hinder parts should you ever attempt to do any at a later time. It's only a matter of time.
 

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    X99 E-WS USB 3.1, CROSSHAIR HERO VIII
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    128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR, 32 GB TEAM GROUP T FORCE
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    NVIDIA 1070, SAPPHIRE RX 590 NITRO+
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    ONBOARD
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Teeotsa

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I apologize if I came off a bit rude there
Ah its fine. Im kinda used to it now
The thing about failing to do Windows updates is that eventually it will come around and bite you in the hinder parts should you ever attempt to do any at a later time. It's only a matter of time.
Probably time to update my system before its too late 😅
 

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    Intel HD 2500
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    Samsung SyncMaster 720N
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    1280x1024
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    Kingston A400 240GB
    1TB SEAGATE HDD
    Internet Speed
    ~ 6 Mb/s (Enough for me)
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    Google Chrome 96, Internet Explorer 11, Firefox 93.0
    Antivirus
    No third-party Antivirus software is installed on my system.
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    I don't update my installation of Windows. I find it unnecessary.
    Also, i've disabled Windows Defender and Windows Firewall because i don't need them!😂
lol It's your choice. Lots of fun as it's always a gamble. ;)

Have you ever noticed how every time Microsoft comes out with a new o/s updates on older operating systems seem to fail more frequently? Just an observation.
 

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    X99 E-WS USB 3.1, CROSSHAIR HERO VIII
    Memory
    128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR, 32 GB TEAM GROUP T FORCE
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    NVIDIA 1070, SAPPHIRE RX 590 NITRO+
    Sound Card
    ONBOARD
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    SAMSUNG 32"
    Screen Resolution
    4K
    Hard Drives
    :::GRINS::: SERIOUSLY?
    PSU
    CORSAIR 1000 W PLATINUM
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    THERMAL TAKE / AZZA
    Cooling
    NOCTUA / CM
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    LOGITECH PRODIGY
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    KASPERSKY
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Teeotsa

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My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Professional x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    3rd Gen Intel CPU
    Memory
    HyperX Fury DDR3 2x4GB 1866MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD 2500
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster 720N
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Kingston A400 240GB
    1TB SEAGATE HDD
    Internet Speed
    ~ 6 Mb/s (Enough for me)
    Browser
    Google Chrome 96, Internet Explorer 11, Firefox 93.0
    Antivirus
    No third-party Antivirus software is installed on my system.
    Other Info
    I don't update my installation of Windows. I find it unnecessary.
    Also, i've disabled Windows Defender and Windows Firewall because i don't need them!😂
:D I would imagine there would be a few old wizards here who would be clucking their tongues at this, but I think it's funny. You should run disc cleanup on that and see how many more you could dispose of. Or, you could try upgrading it to Win 10 for the potential experience of a lifetime. What could possibly go wrong?
 

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    AMD 3800X, Intel 6900K
    Motherboard
    X99 E-WS USB 3.1, CROSSHAIR HERO VIII
    Memory
    128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR, 32 GB TEAM GROUP T FORCE
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA 1070, SAPPHIRE RX 590 NITRO+
    Sound Card
    ONBOARD
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    SAMSUNG 32"
    Screen Resolution
    4K
    Hard Drives
    :::GRINS::: SERIOUSLY?
    PSU
    CORSAIR 1000 W PLATINUM
    Case
    THERMAL TAKE / AZZA
    Cooling
    NOCTUA / CM
    Keyboard
    LOGITECH PRODIGY
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    1 GBs
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    FIREFOX
    Antivirus
    KASPERSKY
    Other Info
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Teeotsa

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Or, you could try upgrading it to Win 10 for the potential experience of a lifetime.
#NOWINDOWS10
You should run disc cleanup on that and see how many more you could dispose of
Maybe 😂

I just find system updating unnecessary, that's why i don't update. Everything works fine. No errors, no problems. "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Professional x64
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    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    3rd Gen Intel CPU
    Memory
    HyperX Fury DDR3 2x4GB 1866MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD 2500
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster 720N
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Kingston A400 240GB
    1TB SEAGATE HDD
    Internet Speed
    ~ 6 Mb/s (Enough for me)
    Browser
    Google Chrome 96, Internet Explorer 11, Firefox 93.0
    Antivirus
    No third-party Antivirus software is installed on my system.
    Other Info
    I don't update my installation of Windows. I find it unnecessary.
    Also, i've disabled Windows Defender and Windows Firewall because i don't need them!😂
It could be argued that if you have good security already running on your system most updates would be optional. BUT since many third party programs are contingent on those updates it might still be a good idea to update. In any case I'd make sure my o/s was backed up well and a complete drive image in cold storage would also be handy in the event of a critical crash. What you do with your PC can largely determine how essential Windows updates will be. Personally, I err on the side of caution and keep my o/s updated.
 

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    Windows 8.1, Windows 7 Ultimate, Windows 10, Linux Mint and more
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    System Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS
    CPU
    AMD 3800X, Intel 6900K
    Motherboard
    X99 E-WS USB 3.1, CROSSHAIR HERO VIII
    Memory
    128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR, 32 GB TEAM GROUP T FORCE
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA 1070, SAPPHIRE RX 590 NITRO+
    Sound Card
    ONBOARD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    SAMSUNG 32"
    Screen Resolution
    4K
    Hard Drives
    :::GRINS::: SERIOUSLY?
    PSU
    CORSAIR 1000 W PLATINUM
    Case
    THERMAL TAKE / AZZA
    Cooling
    NOCTUA / CM
    Keyboard
    LOGITECH PRODIGY
    Mouse
    LOGITECH
    Internet Speed
    1 GBs
    Browser
    FIREFOX
    Antivirus
    KASPERSKY
    Other Info
    PC builder. Own a dozen PCs / built hundreds. All of us have a lot to learn. Some of us stand to learn more than others and those who think they know the most generally know the least. I'm here to learn and pass on what little I know.

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