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Solved In-Place Upgrade from Windows 8 - Windows 8.1 (64-bit):


petesmst

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My First Impressions:

I have just installed the latest TechNet version of Windows 8.1 (ISO) (choosing the "upgrade" option) over my existing Windows 8 Pro 64-bit installation, using my existing Windows 8 product key. (After doing a full original system backup to an external hard drive). The upgrade proceeded well, but a number of my installed programs either had to be re-installed, or repaired due to the Windows 8.1 Program Compatibility Assistant reporting "Re Install Required".

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/26095-repair-install-windows-8-a.html

NOTE: The above link was NOT inserted by myself, but by the Forum Administrator "Brink". Note that I performed an UPGRADE over my existing Windows 8.0 setup, and retained ALL my settings, programs/apps and data. I booted from a Windows 8.1 ISO DVD and inserted my existing Windows 8.0 Product Key when asked to "enter product key" early in the process. I then selected "keep all your personal settings, files, apps and data" and then sat back and waited for the process to complete. It took about 25 minutes, including 4 re-boots. (I purposefully avoided using the term "repair install" because I was upgrading from Win 8.0 to Win 8.1, not "repairing" Win 8.0 and wished to avoid any confusion in this regard!!) Nevertheless, many thanks to Brink for the above link, as it provides very useful screen shots of the process(es).


The following cases are listed for your info:

a. VMWare Workstation version 9.0.2: "Compatibility Issue". I "ran the program anyway" and found I was unable to connect to the internet. I carried out a VMWare Installation "repair" and now the program works fine, but still starts "via" the Windows compatibility issue error screen (one is, however, offered the opportunity to "run the program any way" and "do not show this again".

b. Classic Shell V3.9.5. Beta: I had to uninstall and re-install before it would work. All fine now. Note: The Classic Shell Icon has NOT replaced the Windows Start Icon at the lower right corner of my desktop screen, but clicking on that icon does open Classic Shell (In Classic Shell Setup, you can, however replace the start icon with the Classic Shell start icon if you wish). The Classic Explorer toolbar does NOT work with Internet Explorer 11. (You will see it is disabled under "tools - manage add-ons" in IE11. Nevertheless, you can enable it by un-clicking "Enhanced Protection Mode under Advanced options in Internet Explorer 11 Tools).

c. Norton Tool Bar and Norton Identity Safe (2014 edition, by Symantec): Incompatible with IE11. I presume Symantec will sort this out soon after the public release of Windows 8.1 (It can, however, be enabled by disabling "Enhanced Protection Mode" under "Advanced Options" in Internet Explorer 11 "Tools").

d. Garmin Express (to manage my Garmin GPS): It had to be re-installed, and now works just fine.

e. The first time I attempted to use Microsoft Project 2013, I was surprised to see "setting up Microsoft Project" appear on the screen. A few seconds later, however, the program opened and worked just fine. The same happened when I first clicked to run Microsoft Outlook 2013 and also Microsoft Visio 2013: "Setting up Microsoft Office" appeared on the screen, and a few seconds later Outlook opened with no changes to the original setup.

f. For those who like the old Windows Gadgets: The latest version (V8.0) of the Windows 8 Gadget Pack DOES work with Windows 8.1 Available here: 8GadgetPack - Gadgets for Windows 8

g. My printer driver re-installed itself the first time I turned on the printer.

h. My home network group had to be re-activated the first time I tried to access it and the other PCs on the network all required to download a new printer driver to access the shared printer connected to my PC.

In all other respects, my Desktop and Start Screens (including all my Windows Apps) still look the same (except for some appearance/colour changes to App icons) as before the upgrade. Windows Explorer does, however list directories and Libraries slightly differently, but not in any way that causes confusion (Woody's Windows Secrets article on the "Final Version of Windows 8.1" explains the change to Libraries in Windows 8.1.

My original boot-up option to boot to the Local Desktop and not to sign in to Windows Sky Drive/Windows Live was not altered by the upgrade; nor were my original chosen document directories.

Note that the ISO is a whopping 3.8GB in size! One assumes that the upgrade that will be available via Windows Update (free of charge) to current users of Widows 8 will be a smaller selection of only the files needed to update a particular user's OS...otherwise some may find the update exceeds their Internet provider's monthly data cap!
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    win 8.1 Pro (64-bit)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Mecer Desktop
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 CPU 860 @2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    Intel WG55D
    Memory
    8Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVidia GeForce GTX 560
    Hard Drives
    OCZ VERTEX 4 SSD (250GB)
    Browser
    IE
    Antivirus
    Norotn Internet Security 2014

sygnus21

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The following cases are listed for your info:

a. VMWare Workstation version 9.0.2: "Compatibility Issue". I "ran the program anyway" and found I was unable to connect to the internet. I carried out a VMWare Installation "repair" and now the program works fine, but still starts "via" the Windows compatibility issue error screen (one is, however, offered the opportunity to "run the program any way" and "do not show this again".

I running a version of 8.1 Preview on WMWare and from that standpoint all is well. Haven't tried running VMWare from 8.1 itself though.

c. Norton Tool Bar and Norton Identity Safe (By Symantec): Incompatible with IE11. I presume Symantec will sort this out soon after the public release of Windows 8.1 (It can, however, also be enabled by disabling "Enhanced Protection Mode under Advanced options in Internet Explorer 11 Tools).

Norton 2013 is incompatible with 8.1 - see my post here: http://www.eightforums.com/windows-...-rtm-released-msdn-technet-19.html#post283273

e. The first time I attempted to use Microsoft Project 2013, I was surprised to see "setting up Microsoft Project" appear on the screen. A few seconds later, however, the program opened and worked just fine. The same happened when I first clicked to run Microsoft Outlook 2013 and also Microsoft Visio 2013: "Setting up Microsoft Office" appeared on the screen, and a few seconds later Outlook opened with no changes to the original setup.

I did a clean install of 8.1 (RTM) and had no issues installing Office 2013 or Visio 2013. I also have Project, and when I install it, I suspect I'll have no problems with it either.

h. My home network group had to be re-activated the first time I tried to access it and the other PCs on the network all required to download a new printer driver to access the shared printer connected to my PC.

Haven't seen this one. I did however notice that when I connected the laptop to my network, it install both my printer's drivers once it detected them.


Note that the ISO is a whopping 3.8GB in size! One assumes that the upgrade that will be available via Windows Update (free of charge) to current users of Widows 8 will be a smaller selection of only the files needed to update a particular user's OS...otherwise some may find the update exceeds their Internet provider's monthly data cap!

Hmm... my 64-bit ISO download was 3.63 gig for the multiple version one.
Doing a clean install of 8.1 on my laptop gave no issues except that Norton Internet Security isn't compatible. That's the only install issue I've had thus far.

FYI, all my photo software (mainly Adobe) installed without issue and seems to be working normal. Also haven't run into any driver issues. Phew :)

Anyway from what I gather, it seems a fresh (clean) install is the way to go.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Custom built by me
    CPU
    Haswell i7-4770K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte G1 Sniper 5 (BIOS F9)
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator Platinum 32 gig (1866MHz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire R9-280 Vapor X
    Sound Card
    Soundblaster ZXR
    Monitor(s) Displays
    NEC PA242W - 24 inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 512gig 850 Pro SSD (OS), Samsung 256gig 840 Pro SSD (photo editing), Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB HD
    PSU
    EVGA Supernova 1000 G2
    Case
    Cooler Master HAF X
    Cooling
    Corsair H100i Closed Loop Cooler
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech Performance MX
    Internet Speed
    High Speed
    Browser
    IE11
    Antivirus
    Norton Security
    Other Info
    RAM Speed: 1866MHZ @ 9-10-10-27-2T, 1.5v

petesmst

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Norton Internet Security 2014 is FULLY Compatible with my Windws 8.1 RTM installation (which was installed by means of an in-place upgrade from Windows 8.0). The only "exception" was the requirement to disable "Enhanced Protection Mode" under Advanced Options in Internet Explorer 11 Tools to enable me to continue to use the Norton Tool Bar and Norton's "Identity Safe".
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    win 8.1 Pro (64-bit)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Mecer Desktop
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 CPU 860 @2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    Intel WG55D
    Memory
    8Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVidia GeForce GTX 560
    Hard Drives
    OCZ VERTEX 4 SSD (250GB)
    Browser
    IE
    Antivirus
    Norotn Internet Security 2014