I done it again!

TechnoMage

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I had a spare 120 GB SSD that I wanted to put someplace where it could make an improvement.
So I took a deep breath, and went to work, extracting the old Toshiba 160 GB spinner out of my Acer Aspire ONE, Netbook.
The HD is down inside, mounted to the bottom of the motherboard, and not easy to get to.
An hour later, I had the SSD installed inside the Netbook, and fired it up, and it even ran. Voila! And I only had three screws left over.
Then I gave it a fresh install of Windows 8.1/Pro/x86 and it's running a lot faster today than it did with its original 160 GB spinner.

So now, what to do with a 160 GB Toshiba spinner (HD) with Windows 8.1/Pro/x86 already installed on it?
I unplugged the SSD in my Main desktop PC and plugged in the little spinner. I hit the GO switch and watched for sparks and smoke.
Well, that didn't happen. But it did humm a little, then I got a message on the screen that Windows 8.1/Pro/32 was setting itself up.
It was the same series of messages that one gets during a normal 8.1 install. (I've never had any OS that would do that, before.)
I didn't have to go fishing for my driver disks either. 8.1 installed all the drivers I needed for all my hardware, even my Epson printer,
and my NVIDEA video card.
That little Toshiba spinner performed a lot better in my Mini Mainframe (Mid-Tower Case, Desktop) Computer, than it did in that little Netbook with only 1.5 GB of RAM. My Desktop PC has 8 GB of RAM, and a 6-Core, AMD CPU. After mounting that little spinner in an adapter frame, and sticking it into a drive bay, I noticed that now I've got seven drives in my desktop PC (Pac-Man, Mid-Tower, Case).
All that happened between supper and bedtime! Just another day in the life of a retired computer tech.

Happy Thanksgiving!
TM :cool:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win-8.1/Pro/64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Acer X-1200
    CPU
    AMD 2 Core
    Motherboard
    Acer
    Memory
    Crucial, 4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDEA GeForce 9200
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Acer
    Hard Drives
    Sandisk, SSD 500GB
    PSU
    Acer
    Case
    SFF Slimline
    Keyboard
    emachines 101 key
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless
    Internet Speed
    5 Meg
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Using Classic Shell on Win-8.1 /pro/64

billmcct

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Dude, UR off the wall cool. However. I know U luv Win 8, but sorry I Luv Win 7 even more. And since M$ forgot how to build an operating system, and the fact that I'm 81yo and pushing 82 real soon, GUESS I may get to die before I ever have to use Win 10/11. Geeze, all they do is break rubbish every update.
 

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System One

  • OS
    win 8.1 Core
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP dv6
    CPU
    i3
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    Palemoon 28.x

strollin

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I did a transplant of a 64GB SSD into my Acer Aspire One netbook about 10 years ago (no screws left over). That netbook originally came with XP but I upgraded it to Win 7 and then Win 8.1. As I recall, it ran much better with Win 8.1 and the SSD then it ever did with XP and the original spinner. I recall there being some limitation of the graphics hardware when running 8.1 on that Acer. The limitation wasn't severe enough to prevent 8.1 from running but prevented it from running at the default resolution that 8.1 wanted.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    W10 Pro (desktop), W10 (laptop), W10 Pro (tablet)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home built i7-8700K, Hp Envy x360 EVO Laptop, MS Surface Pro 7
    CPU
    3.7Ghz Core i7-8700K, 11th Gen Core i7-1165G7 4.7Ghz, 10th Gen Core™ i5-1035G4 1.1Ghz
    Motherboard
    ASUS TUF Z370-Pro Gaming, HP, MS
    Memory
    16G, 8G, 8G
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX580, Intel Iris X Graphics, Intel Iris Plus Graphics G4
    Sound Card
    ATI High Definition Audio (Built-in to mobo)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dual Samsung U32J59 32 inch monitors, 13.3" display, 12.3" display
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160 (Desktop), 1920x1080 (laptop), 2736x1824 Pro 7
    Hard Drives
    500GB ssd boot drive with 2 & 10TB Data (Desktop), 512GB ssd (laptop), 128GB SSD (tablet)
    PSU
    Corsair CX 750M
    Case
    Antec 100
    Cooling
    Coolermaster CM 212+
    Keyboard
    IBM Model M - used continuously since 1986
    Mouse
    Microsoft IntelliMouse
    Internet Speed
    665Mbps/15Mbps down/up
    Browser
    FireFox, MS Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender on all
    Other Info
    Retired in 2015 after working in the tech industry for 41 years. First 10 years as a Technician, the rest as a programmer/software engineer. After 1 year of retirement, I was bored so went back to work as a Robotic Process Automation Consultant. Retired for 3rd (and final) time in 2019.

TechnoMage

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For years, I said that I'd die with Windows 7 on every one of my PC's. But, it came with one very poor driver pack, and every time I'd install it (Win-7) I'd have to dig out all my driver's disks, to get all my hardware working. That was always a real PITA! But like so many others, I thought that Windows 7 was the best thing since sliced bread. :D

Then, one day, just for kicks, I downloaded and installed Windows 8.1/Pro/64 to a spare HD. It was good, and installed without me having to dig out even one driver disk, but after I installed the Classic Shell, it was GRRRRRREAT!
Since Win-7 had been giving me some problems, maybe due to some sabotage from MS Updates, I tried Win-8.1 to see how it would work as my every day OS. Hence, here I am on the Windows 8 Forums. There are actually other forums for those who don't like Win-8.1, for whatever reason, which I can't imagine.*

* Way back when MS first released Windows 8.0, I jumped on the forum for 8.0, and before long was asked by the forum owner, to be a moderator. The forum was being overrun by spammers, hackers and just plain buttheads. Myself and one other moderator, had to ban dozens of those miscreants every day. Finally the forum owners closed that forum.

That first effort by MS to write something better than Windows 7 was one horrible failure. Most users agreed, and wanted no part of it.
Realizing that they had shot themselves in the foot, MS released Windows 8.1, which I and many others thought should have been called Windows 9.0. Regardless of the less than perfect name, 8.1 became a winner for myself and those who were willing to give it an honest try.
Granted, it was still not as user friendly as Windows 7, but adding the Classic Shell took care of that problem. It does require some user Setup, which I'm sure many users are not up to, but when it IS properly set up, 8.1 is every bit as user friendly as Win-7, and with many new benefits.

As an old Tech, I'd love to sit down with anyone who says they don't like Windows 8.1, and show them what it can be like when properly installed, tweaked and tuned for maximum user friendliness.
I've always stayed with Microsoft and I've run every MS OS since MS-DOS 2.0.
And as much as I do love Win-8.1/Pro, 32 bit or 64 bit, if forced to do so, I can also use Windows 10 or even Widows 11.
10 and 11 are so much alike, that all my tweaks and tune up tips that work on 10 will also work on 11. I have both installed and running just fine on several of my test PC's.

At first look, I thought Windows 11 was a real FUBAR! But, with a little poking around, I determined that every thing I didn't like about 11, was all just part of the new GUI, and could be tweaked and tuned to more closely approximate the look and feel of Windows 7. WOW! Who would'a thunk it?
Of course, the Classic Shell is a must.

I'm sorry! I do like to talk. And I've got 42 years of experience in personal computers to talk about.
Here's wishing y'all a very Happy Thanksgiving.
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win-8.1/Pro/64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Acer X-1200
    CPU
    AMD 2 Core
    Motherboard
    Acer
    Memory
    Crucial, 4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDEA GeForce 9200
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Acer
    Hard Drives
    Sandisk, SSD 500GB
    PSU
    Acer
    Case
    SFF Slimline
    Keyboard
    emachines 101 key
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless
    Internet Speed
    5 Meg
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Using Classic Shell on Win-8.1 /pro/64

TechnoMage

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Still under the banner of "I did it again!" :

I have an old eMachine that has two IDE ports on the Motherboard as well as four SATA ports.
It was quite the PC in its day. Also has seven USB ports (USB 1, of course). It also has a DVD player and a 3.5" Floppy Disk Drive.

Well, after scrapping out several really old PC's this past year, I came up with two old IDE hard drives.

So my latest endeavor was to connect one of those old IDE drives to my little old eMachine and install Windows 8.1/Pro/x86 to it.
WOW! ZOOM! Knock me over with a feather, it actually worked! I had forgotten just how slow and noisy those old IDE drives can be.
Win 8.1 installed just fine, and everything worked, EXCEPT, for the sound. The little speaker in the system tray had a big red X on it.
The sound chip on the motherboard requires the old "AC-97 Sound Driver". I tried to install it manually, to no avail.

So, while poking around in the Control Panel and making some settings, to mouse, power, etc, I opened up "Sounds" and clicked on one of the default sounds, and hit "TEST"....it Played! The red X was gone, and all the sounds played. A music CD also played just fine, using the Windows Media Player.

What made the Sounds start working is beyond my limited knowledge of Windows code. I could only guess that the Windows installer had actually installed the AC-97 Sound drivers, but failed to turn them ON. HUH?
So now, I've got a fully functional 20 year old, Samsung, 60GB, IDE hard drive, running Windows 8.1/Pro/x86, warts and all.
I had forgotten just how slow and noisy an IDE drive could be. :ROFLMAO: Especially, when I've gotten used to the SSD drives, that are FAST and QUIET.
Just another day in the life of a retired Computer Tech. :roflmao2:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win-8.1/Pro/64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Acer X-1200
    CPU
    AMD 2 Core
    Motherboard
    Acer
    Memory
    Crucial, 4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDEA GeForce 9200
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Acer
    Hard Drives
    Sandisk, SSD 500GB
    PSU
    Acer
    Case
    SFF Slimline
    Keyboard
    emachines 101 key
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless
    Internet Speed
    5 Meg
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Using Classic Shell on Win-8.1 /pro/64

TechnoMage

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New Problem:
It just started a few days ago, and driving me nuts!
When I boot up Win-8.1, my little speaker icon in the system tray has a
RED X on it.
If I just hover my cursor over it, the message says that "the Sound Service is not running". ??? WTF???
However, if I click on it, then click the volume slider, I hear a 'clunk' and the red x disappears.
From there on, the sound works normally.
So my question to the Experts, "why the red X on the little speaker when I first boot up?

Any ideas would be SO welcome.
Merry Christmas, Everyone!
TM :cool:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win-8.1/Pro/64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Acer X-1200
    CPU
    AMD 2 Core
    Motherboard
    Acer
    Memory
    Crucial, 4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDEA GeForce 9200
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Acer
    Hard Drives
    Sandisk, SSD 500GB
    PSU
    Acer
    Case
    SFF Slimline
    Keyboard
    emachines 101 key
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless
    Internet Speed
    5 Meg
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Using Classic Shell on Win-8.1 /pro/64

Teeotsa

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New Problem:
It just started a few days ago, and driving me nuts!
When I boot up Win-8.1, my little speaker icon in the system tray has a
RED X on it.
If I just hover my cursor over it, the message says that "the Sound Service is not running". ??? WTF???
However, if I click on it, then click the volume slider, I hear a 'clunk' and the red x disappears.
From there on, the sound works normally.
So my question to the Experts, "why the red X on the little speaker when I first boot up?

Any ideas would be SO welcome.
Merry Christmas, Everyone!
TM :cool:
Maybe check "Windows Audio" service, should be set to Automatic.

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Professional x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i7 3770
    Motherboard
    ASRock B75 Pro3-M
    Memory
    HyperX Fury DDR3 2x4GB 1866MHz + 2x2GB Samsung Sticks (12 GB Total)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GTX 560 TI
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Some :) Enough for me
    Internet Speed
    10 Mb/s Down | 2Mb/s Up
    Browser
    Google Chrome 108, Internet Explorer 11, Firefox 80, Edge 107
    Antivirus
    No third-party Antivirus software is installed on my system.
    Other Info
    No Windows Update/Windows Defender & Antivirus Software on my system.

TechnoMage

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No matter what I'd do to solve the problem of the disappearing speaker icon, including a System Restore and even a Ghost Restore, I just got fed up with fighting with it.
I have Windows 11/Pro/64 on a bootable flash drive, and I've already installed it successfully on several other PC's, including one old Laptop. So I decided to give it a try here on my everyday PC, to replace Win-8.1.
Skipping all the gory details, I did save all my data files, to external drives, and then I installed Win-11/Pro/64 on this little SFF Acer desktop. After several hours (and days) of tweaking and tuning, and re-insalling programs, I'm finally running Win-11 as easily and happily as I ever did on Win-7 or Win-8.1. And, 11 even looks like my previous OS's. It takes a little work, but it's doable and it looks great.
**** Many of my programs were getting old and had not been updated in years. This clean install gave me the opportunity to go on-line and download the very latest versions of those programs.
All of those new program versions, are safely saved to my Utilities Flash Drive, for future use.

As this new install has progressed, I've made several backups of my C: partition, using my old, faithful and trusty "Ghost". Only takes about 20 minutes.

Almost simultaneously, to my Win-11 install, I've also installed Windows XP to an old IDE Hard Drive, running on an equally old "eMachine". It's just FUN, to play with the OLD OS's. I had forgotten all the fun I had with XP, years ago. As luck would have it, I still have all my old Tune-Up tips and Tweaks for XP. It's "dé·jà vu" all over again.

Happy Holidays, Mates,
TM :cool:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win-8.1/Pro/64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Acer X-1200
    CPU
    AMD 2 Core
    Motherboard
    Acer
    Memory
    Crucial, 4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDEA GeForce 9200
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Acer
    Hard Drives
    Sandisk, SSD 500GB
    PSU
    Acer
    Case
    SFF Slimline
    Keyboard
    emachines 101 key
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless
    Internet Speed
    5 Meg
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Using Classic Shell on Win-8.1 /pro/64

TechnoMage

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Update:
The SAGA continues:
On Friday the 13th, 2023, the motherboard in my 8 yr old PC died. RIP!
I can't afford a new (or even a used) motherboard, so I did the next best thing.....
I pulled out the OS drive, from the now defunct PC. It's a little 250GB Crucial SSD, with Windows 8.1/Pro/64 on it.
I transferred it to a little HP Slimline desktop PC, that I refurbished several years ago. (BIOS date 2008)
On Boot, Windows 8.1 said something like "Please Wait" and began the process of setting itself up to run on the new PC. A few minutes later and after a RE-BOOT, Win-8.1 was running as smooth as it did on the old PC, where it had originally been installed. (both computers have AMD cpu's in them)
Since then, I also found out that the little HP, will boot from an SD memory card, or even a drive in my 'Sabrent' Docking Station.

On the original HP Slimline, it was set up with a slide out drive bay, that could hold only one 3.5" hard drive.
Well, now I've got two tiny little 2.5" SSD's installed in there. One SSD has my Win-8.1 on it, and the other....
Wait for it.......Windows 11/Pro/64.
There is one problem....the motherboard has only two SATA ports on it, originally for one HD and one CD.
So I just took the SATA cable off of the CD drive and put it on the second SSD.
Can you say, "Dual Boot"?
If I just hit the power ON button and do nothing else, the PC boots up in Win-8.1, but, if I want it to boot to Win-11, I just press the ESC key on Pwr ON, and from the Boot Menu, I select drive #2 with Win-11 on it.
Now for the Magic, that TechnoMage is famous for.
I have several spare hard drives laying around with OS's on them, from my old, dead, PC.
If I put one of those drives in my "Sabrent" Docking Station, turn it ON, and select it from the Boot Menu, then the little HP will boot off of that external HD and as soon as the OS sets itself up for this PC, it boots up like it was always there.
Docking Station.jpg

I've done this with several of my old HD's to see if they have something on them that I want to keep, or if I just want to reformat them, for data drives.

Just another day in the life of the TechnoMage (Technical Magician).

Cheers Mates!
TM :cool:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win-8.1/Pro/64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Acer X-1200
    CPU
    AMD 2 Core
    Motherboard
    Acer
    Memory
    Crucial, 4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDEA GeForce 9200
    Sound Card
    On Board
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Acer
    Hard Drives
    Sandisk, SSD 500GB
    PSU
    Acer
    Case
    SFF Slimline
    Keyboard
    emachines 101 key
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless
    Internet Speed
    5 Meg
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Using Classic Shell on Win-8.1 /pro/64
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