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Hyper-V - How to Use in Windows 8


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#22
What processor do you have?
 

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#24
favouritekid,

Can you clarify what you mean by "Hyper-V Core"? Are you referring to the free "Hyper-V Server" version of Windows Server 2008 R2 that allowed you to run Hyper-V? Download Details - Microsoft Download Center - Microsoft® Hyper-V

If you are referring to the above command prompt-only flavor of the operating system, your best bet would be to install Windows 8 Server (Server Core). Then you can add the Hyper-V server role by using the dism.exe command.

Perhaps you should consider opening a new thread that better articulates what you are looking for.

Thanks,
Frank
 

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churin

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#25
After running Hyper-V Manager, I get the following which is different from that shown in the tutorial. What am I doing wrong? Or is there anything I can do from here to bring me back on track?
Capture.PNG
 

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#26
Hello Churin,

Where you able to check the Hyper-V Platform option in Windows Features as well?

If not, then your CPU may not support it. :(
 

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#27
Hi, Brink,

I do not necessarily fully understand your reply, but how can I check to see if my cpu support Hyper-V?
 

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#28
In order to run Hyper-V in Windows 8 client, your CPU must support SLAT (Second Level Address Translation). It's also know an Intel EPT (Extended Paging tables).

Sadly, if you aren't running a core i3/i5/i7 series, you aren't going to have SLAT support. I just had to replace a Core 2 Duo at work in my main desktop as it didn't have SLAT support. My laptop is running a Core 2 Duo P8600...and it does NOT have SLAT support either.

Here is a useful link with an easy method to double check for your SLAT support
How to Check if Your CPU Supports Second Level Address Translation (SLAT) - How-To Geek
 

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#29
I checked if my CPU supports SLAT by following the referenced article. It appears to support SLAT. Please see the following:
SLAT.JPG
 

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#30
Churin,

It looks like the "Console tree" has been set to hide in the Hyper-V Manager. In the Hyper-V Manager, click on View (Menu bar) and Customize. Next, check the Console tree option and click OK to see if that restores it.

Customize.jpg
 

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#31
Brink,

I have found that the console tree must have been turned off when I took that snapshot of Hyper-V Manager. This was probably because I clicked the icon for "Show/Hide console tree". I have now turned it on, so that "Hyper-V Manager" is shown on the left most column. This is still different from what the tutorial shows and I could not figure out how to proceed from here.
 

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#32
Good. One down, and one to go. Yep, under "Hyper-V Manager" should be your computer name to select.

Double check your BIOS settings to make sure that anything virtual is enabled.

Next, double check in Windows Features to make sure that you have all 5 items below checked.

 

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churin

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#33
I thought I did the step for turning on VM features, but for some reason Hyper-V Platform is not check-marked.
Now I am on track to proceed. When everything is done I will certainly post back.
 

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That's great news Churin. I hope the rest goes smoothly for you. :)
 

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#35
I followed the tutorial's steps to the end. Now, I can run the guest OS of XP and switch back and forth between the guest and the host.

My remaining problems are that 1) no networking(NIC not recognized), 2) no DVD drive and 3) video controller driver not installed.
Is there another tutorial which covers the above?
 

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#36
I followed the tutorial's steps to the end. Now, I can run the guest OS of XP and switch back and forth between the guest and the host.

My remaining problems are that 1) no networking(NIC not recognized), 2) no DVD drive and 3) video controller driver not installed.
Is there another tutorial which covers the above?
First of all, try installing the integration components (inserts as a virtual cd on the XP guest) then you get a better video controller (not much but better) and you can resize the screen to any resolution.

The network adapter should have drivers on the guest or it will be not installed (just like in the tutorial). Try to choose another adapter on the Hyper-V settings window.

For the sound: I'm afraid you need some more advanced stuff to do in order to work (redirection) and I'm also don't know how to apply that (that's why I use VirtualBox or VMware Player for VM's with sound).

Cheers
Hopachi
 

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#37
First of all, try installing the integration components (inserts as a virtual cd on the XP guest) then you get a better video controller (not much but better) and you can resize the screen to any resolution.
What is the integration components?
How to insert something as a vertual cd on the guest os?

The network adapter should have drivers on the guestor it will be not installed (just like in the tutorial)
Does the above mean the problem is less likely to happen if I pick newer OS as the guest?

. Try to choose another adapter on the Hyper-V settings window.
Does the above suggest that a new adapter be installed whose drivers come with the quest OS?


I thought if a guest os is once installed, installing devices and their drivers can be done as the same ways for normal OS installation.
 

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#38
First of all, try installing the integration components (inserts as a virtual cd on the XP guest) then you get a better video controller (not much but better) and you can resize the screen to any resolution.
What is the integration components?
How to insert something as a vertual cd on the guest os?

The network adapter should have drivers on the guestor it will be not installed (just like in the tutorial)
Does the above mean the problem is less likely to happen if I pick newer OS as the guest?

. Try to choose another adapter on the Hyper-V settings window.
Does the above suggest that a new adapter be installed whose drivers come with the quest OS?


I thought if a guest os is once installed, installing devices and their drivers can be done as the same ways for normal OS installation.
Integration Services (not components, sorry). See this link: Windows 8 Hyper-V Improved Integration Services Setup | Working Hard In IT

The default adapter seem to work on a Win8 guest so that means is supported but not by all guests.
Yes, you should try another adapter, and with luck, it may work, otherwise try to find the drivers yourself.
Anyway the integration services may install all missing drivers.

Good luck.
 

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#39
Regarding the "Integration Services", the linked article refers to "Virtual Machine console" and "navigate to Action and select Insert Integration Services Setup Disk". How can I get to "Virtual Machine console"?
 

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Regarding the "Integration Services", the linked article refers to "Virtual Machine console" and "navigate to Action and select Insert Integration Services Setup Disk". How can I get to "Virtual Machine console"?

That's the graphic interface of your virtual machine. Do you even see your VM XP desktop? There has to be a menu there.

This is it:
To use the virtual machine interactively all I need to do is connect to it. I can click the Connect link in the Actions menu or double-click the virtual machine name. Hyper-V will then create a session to the virtual machine console
See this: Import Virtual Machine in Windows 8 Client Hyper-V

Then you should see the menu:
vm-options.png

This should fix the issue.

Regards
Hopachi
 

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    Intel HD4000 + Nvidia Geforce 630M
    Sound Card
    IDT HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6' built-in + Samsung S22D300 + 17.3' LG Phillips
    Screen Resolution
    multiple resolutions
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 250GB + Hitachi HDD 750GB
    PSU
    120W adapter
    Case
    small
    Cooling
    laptop cooling pad
    Keyboard
    Backlit built-in + big one in USB
    Mouse
    SteelSeries Sensei
    Internet Speed
    slow and steady
    Browser
    Chromium, Pale Moon, Firefox Developer Edition
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    That's basically it.

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