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How to reinstate WinMail onto Windows 8 or Windows 10


Ex_Brit

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#42
Both 32 and 64-bit are in there.
 

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Is this done the same way that it was done in Windows 8? Mine was working until I updated to 8.1
 

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Yes. Upgrading is like installing a service pack or doing a repair install or an sfc /scannow, in all cases hacks like winmail tend to be undone, therefore you have to redo them.
 

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mcleod55

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#46
I put msidcrl30.dll in my system 32 folder. Deleted Windows Mail folders in Program Files. Copied my Windows Mail folder from Program files on my Windows 7 (64) computer to a usb stick and then pasted it in Program Files on my Windows 8.1 machine. Now my old email is working like a champ.
 

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I put msidcrl30.dll in my system 32 folder. Deleted Windows Mail folders in Program Files. Copied my Windows Mail folder from Program files on my Windows 7 (64) computer to a usb stick and then pasted it in Program Files on my Windows 8.1 machine. Now my old email is working like a champ.

I thought that if you copied software directly, it would not work as the Registry had no corresponding entry, or does windows 8 now do it automatically?
 

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Well in this case it's rather complicated, as Windows Mail is already installed, but it's deactivated and therefore invisible so most registry entries needed are already there. The reason the files are already there is to power other applications such as Calendar, and suchlike, or so I believe. Replacing files with the Vista ones activates it.
It's a shame Microsoft never developed it past Vista but I think it had something to do with the darn EU & other Governments stupidly insisting on Microsoft giving users multiple choices, which they always had anyway, and an unbundled version of Windows, which made it not worthwhile pursuing.
 
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Slightly off topic but will be glad when we leave the corrupt EU.
 

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It may have already been in the registry already from my failed attempts to get it to work before I deleted the other Windows Mail folders. To be honest, I don't know. All I do know is after several failed attempts, I deleted the original Windows Mail folders, put the dll file in System 32 folder, and copied the Windows Mail folder off my Windows 7 machine and pasted it in Program Files on the Windows 8.1 machine...

Now I did have it working BEFORE I updated from 8 to 8.1. I don't know if that would have anything to do with it or not. To be honest, I'm not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree when it comes to the Registry.
 

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I have software which looks after the pc including the Registry and have not had problems, yet. The amount of residue left over in there is astounding. Needs a good clean at least once a week. Advanced System Care (I have the Pro version) does it all for me. The 'freebie' version does this too.
 

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It may have already been in the registry already from my failed attempts to get it to work before I deleted the other Windows Mail folders. To be honest, I don't know. All I do know is after several failed attempts, I deleted the original Windows Mail folders, put the dll file in System 32 folder, and copied the Windows Mail folder off my Windows 7 machine and pasted it in Program Files on the Windows 8.1 machine...

Now I did have it working BEFORE I updated from 8 to 8.1. I don't know if that would have anything to do with it or not. To be honest, I'm not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree when it comes to the Registry.
Upgrading to 8.1 undoes all that and you have to start again...see post #57 on the previous page.

I have software which looks after the pc including the Registry and have not had problems, yet. The amount of residue left over in there is astounding. Needs a good clean at least once a week. Advanced System Care (I have the Pro version) does it all for me. The 'freebie' version does this too.
Be very wary of registry cleaners as they will pretty-well guaranteed clean stuff that is needed whether you tell them to or not. Windows itself has most of the tools you need, Disk Cleanup and the manual methods of cleaning temp and %temp% files.
 

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elbmek, my last grammar school (in rather ancient times ;-) was not too far from were you live...Coleshill. I say last, I was an army brat so moved with the family every 3 years. I recall us house-hunting in Sutton Coldfield amongst many areas.
 

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elbmek, my last grammar school (in rather ancient times ;-) was not too far from were you live...Coleshill. I say last, I was an army brat so moved with the family every 3 years. I recall us house-hunting in Sutton Coldfield amongst many areas.
Greetings!
 

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You have to redo it. The Tutorial has been removed from the SevenForums site because it is no longer supported. I kept a copy and it should be contained in this zip file. Simply unzip it and follow the instructions as per the enclosed ReWinMail_tutorial.html. All the files you need are in there.

Note:
Ex_Brit attachment was only meant for Windows 7 !

Do Not use that process on Windows 8 or Windows 10, and for those OS's please go to post #1 of this thread.

..however yes the WinMail Calender from Vista does work on Windows 7/8 and can be found Here
I have not used it yet.
 
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Sounds good. I forgot about the take ownership bit and am wondering if I had already done that at some stage because I didn't have to do it again.
 

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I just discovered that Windows Mail didn't have all its defaults so if yours is the same run this .reg file (unpack the zip and then right-click > Merge or simply double-click it):
 
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I just discovered that Windows Mail didn't have all its defaults so if yours is the same run this .reg file (unpack the zip and then right-click > Merge or simply double-click it):
Ex_Brit and others, Please do not use that attachment!
It has unnecessary entries that will cause someone cosmetic grief if they merge it messing many of their own set settings while solving no problems!
Furthermore there's no defaults missing within the current WinMailEdit.reg either

The Latest Continuously Updated instructions/files needed to reinstate WinMail will always be given on Post #1
The current WinMailEdit.reg has all the latest modifications needed, and has only what is needed. Don't be concerned or try to compare it in size or content to that Old WinMailEdit.reg you give, where back in 2009+ everyone was turning in portions of their own personal registry entries alongside valid ones to solve issues; yes the moments were great and a wonderful community effort in those days and never to be forgotten. However in the process there were some unneeded personal HKCU that were unintentionally sent in alongside valid entries that solved problems, and the personal was unnecessarily retained in the WinMailEdit.reg over a long period.

We have since cleaned it up and removed all unwarranted entries and keep adding more problem solvers as we go along, and now incorporate only what's necessary - and it works so much better!

We removed the erroneous HKCU entries of WinMailEdit.reg for good reason. As with most programs, WinMail's registry is first initialized and driven off HKLM, and the HKCU per-user keys are built by the program when first launched and as options set using HKLM entries as the base, or have some built-in self registering, or both. The Tutorial's WinMailEdit.reg provides only the necessary base HKLM registry entries that Are needed to resolve all operating issues discovered for the project that were found, and so now going forward everyone's own HKCU configuration settings, as it should be, will be preserved when they have to run the latest tutorial files again - that's the beauty of it.

Realize that as WinMail exists and sits in the registry Before anyone ever opens WinMail.exe for the first time, if you were looking at its registry entries comparing it to a fully setup WinMail, yes nearly 40% of its WinMail registry entries in both HKCU & HKLM may appear to be missing...and they are suppose to be, until, WinMail.exe is actually opened and ran for the first time. It's not until one first opens up WinMail and uses it, starts making options changes, setting up their accounts, etc, which all along the way until finished for each process it builds and introduces more and more additional registry settings ...nearly 40% more at the appropriate time until finished.

The Latest Continuously Updated instructions/files needed to reinstate WinMail will always be given on Post #1
 
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I probably wouldn't know the answer as I'm not too technical. I think in my case something went wrong with my re-doing it after upgrading to 8.1.
 

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    ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 Socket 1366 Core i7, Dual Triple Channel DDR3 Mem
    Memory
    24GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 6 x 4096MB
    Graphics Card(s)
    1792 MB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 295/Hauppauge HVR2250 TV Tuner
    Sound Card
    Onboard Soundmax® High definition Sound
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung XL2370 LED
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080P
    Hard Drives
    2 X 500gb SATA
    1 X 1TB SATA
    1 X 3TB external eSATA
    (Non-RAID)
    PSU
    Alienware® 1200 Watt Multi-GPU
    Case
    Alienware® P2 ALX Chassis with AlienIce 3.0 Video Cooling
    Cooling
    Alienware® High-Perf. Liquid Cooling + Acoustic Dampening
    Keyboard
    Microsoft® Wireless Entertainment 8000 + Logitech® G15 Wired
    Mouse
    Microsoft® Wireless Laser 8000 + Logitech® G9 Wired
    Internet Speed
    1tbs
    Other Info
    Using non-RAID on purpose as I find it too fussy and temperamental.

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