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How to reinstate WinMail onto Windows 8 or Windows 10


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64 bit by the way :)

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Well done ;-)
 

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64 bit by the way :)
Yes, and so I just did the x86 version for 1709, and I updated it right up to the latest build 16299.201 before I re-instated WinMail

click screenshot to open if you want to see its original full size!
WinMail-1709.16299.201.jpg

I re-instated WinMail by following our same Tutorial on Post 1 - I much prefer it actually!

And then I proceeded to add the new files needed to get this working.

Then right there I started up WinMail and the screenshot above is what I saw.


Edit:
I have now updated the WinMail Tutorial to include the extra files necessary to get Windows10, v1709 working.
I further simplified the process - See Post #2 here (of course you must do Post #1 first)
 
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I was using from Vista :) When installed 7, i proceed your list and i use it again. When 1709 came, it disappeared and i have to move Thunderbird. But with this solution, I just did what listed and VOILA. Everything came back :D

@endeavor, now you have to do something ;)
 

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Got it done here too. Some minor glitches getting it to work but perseverance paid off. thanks ;-)
 

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thanks to who working on this :)
 

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Hi there

Got this working too but a couple of annoyances - wonder if anyone can help.

Theres a Microsoft Communities news account and folder in the folders list and in the accounts - every time I delete it and restart Windows mail it reappears ?

Also I cant get the right click on a file and "send to - mail recipient" function to work - dialogue comes up requesting me to register with MS outlook - even though I have set windows mail as the default mail app and it has its max allowable default protocols etc assigned to it. Had it working in my last early windows 10 installation but if i remember it only started working after i had to do a registry clean/restore aftyer getting malware. Was up until then not working nor did it work in windows 7.

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Hello murd26 and welcome to EightForums.

iirc that Microsoft Communities listing can't be removed (permanently) until WinMail is properly defaulted or other newsgroups are enlisted first.
 
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Thanks - I fully appreciate that - lucky we're managing it now - I've done it from vista to seven and twice to 10

Out of interest are you or other having this bug also ?

When you go to options > advanced. are the options blank ? mine are and always have been with migrated winmail
 

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Out of interest are you or other having this bug also ?

When you go to options > advanced. are the options blank ? mine are and always have been with migrated winmail
Go to the Page 1, Post 1, Tutorial, and in the first paragraph click on the Errata link, and when you get to that bug list page, then read down a paragraph or two and you will see on the second bold heading, that Blank options issue you've mentioned listed and what you can do about it! You have some catch up reading to do, and any questions feel free to ask...
 
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How can i choose WinMail to default mail program in W10?

I registered it with ""C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\WinMail" /reg" cmd set. But it didn't appears in "DefaultApps/EMail" section in Default Programs...
 
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It's not as easy with 1709 to do it and as I mentioned above in post 356, go to the Errata bug list page and under the second heading you will see a screenshot I made how to do it for Earlier versions. Yes it shows a Win7 screenshot and so for Win8 and Win10 each will be a little different yes. I had no problems making WinMail on Win7/87/10 the Default client up until 1709 came out! ..where I said they depreciated nearly everything WinMail related and so it makes it much more difficult.

yako2k3 what else are you trying to do that is not working?
What is not working?

I do not have the MAPI stuff working yet including the 'Send To Mail Recipient' is not working yet, I have limited time and it's not really that important anyway since you can Easily just attach an item from within WinMail itself, and so the SendTo is not really a big deal.
As I said in both forums the Errata bug list for 1709 is more than any other, and it's not going to get any better with future versions of Win10 either! It's just another side-effect (bug) of trying to run WinMail in newer versions of Win10 where it was not intended to be.

What say you?
 
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The second picture (you posted); i can not see WinMail there :). is it important? i think no :)
 

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I said I wasn't done yet but why when I asked a question you don't answer but then you post another question - wth <g>
Since it was not working looking for the right way to associate for mapimail is why I put it in there to see what happens, leaving nothing to chance.

..need to get mapi fixed/associated, more to go till it works; the rest will be done under the hood though.
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And so again I'm asking what specific is it about WinMail why you posted?
What specifically is not working for you?
 
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When i click to news:... links, Thunderbird starting :)

This is my problem. for now. That's it. (Also 'Microsoft Communities' appears every time but it's ignorable)
 

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When i click to news:... links, Thunderbird starting :)

This is my problem. for now. That's it. (Also 'Microsoft Communities' appears every time but it's ignorable)
I don't have Thunderbird installed on the 1709 install right now and at the moment, because for me that just adds many too many more things into the mix in order for me to properly research the current problems that exist. I'm sure you understand that.

When MS removed the OE legacy code of WinMail the results were substantial. I tracked every file/registry change made between 1607 and the latest 1709 and have them all for reference. Thousands of registry changes and many file changes just related just to WinMail itself. I can see and interact with it all. I have to meticulously go back and go over the related changes and see if I can re-instate some of what was done to the MAPI sections, and whatever else is related, to see if I can get it back. The problem is they have tied a lot of it over Default to the built in 1709 Mail client now, and I'm not going to break that just to get WinMail going. WinMail needs to be self-sufficient.

fwiw I had already seen and restored those same registry entries previously that orgi suggested, and more, but I had not restored those few files at that point, and that's why I did not succeed at first. Out of thousands of file changes to the whole upgrade, it's a little hard to decipher what goes to what feature unless you're the original programmer or similar.
 
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I see orgi posted the MAPI additional fixes for Windows10 v1709 today.
As he mentions he has some tech friends helping him with this.

I made all the changes.
I've also file/registry simplified the procedure, and removed unnecessary redundancy.
...and it all worked just fine.
(remember though, the original Bug List is still the same, and may even have additional issues with this)

Now MAPI and SendTo Mail Recipient works fine, etc, and attaches files just fine, etc..
SendToAttachment.jpg

My Windows Mail is listed in the Default Apps section where it should be, with other settings we mentioned previously.
defaultapps.jpg

I transferred over my entire Win7 WinMail setup to Windows 10 this morning for testing, and here's a screenshot of that.
(I covered some of my tech news groups listings for privacy, and just show a random nntp; I don't show all the many accounts I have under Other, etc...)
(click screenshot if you want to open full size)

newsgroups+.jpg


Edit:
I have now updated the WinMail Tutorial to include the extra files necessary to get Windows10, 1709 working.
I further simplified the process - See Post #2 here (of course you must do Post #1 first)




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I have now updated the WinMail Tutorial to include the extra files necessary to get Windows10, 1709 working.

I further simplified the process - See Post #2 here (of course you must run through Post #1 first)
 
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I'm getting stuck on the final step, when I try to merge the 1703.1709 reg file I get this. Is there anything you can suggest to get this to work?

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Hello az87aris and welcome to the Eight Forums

That prompt tells me that you are using an Earlier version of Windows 10 than what post #2 is listed for, and that prompt is what you'll get - I've seen that prompt myself in testing by 'on purpose' using post #2 attachments on earlier versions, and that is what you will get. Make sure you're also using the correct OS bit attachment files for your OS version ...x86 or x64.

See my post #1 screenshot for b16199, anything after that needs post #1 & #2, anything before that Only needs post #1 to work.
Do Not Mix attachment files that don't go to your version! Delete all the files you put in wrong and start over.

Notice what OS build versions I am using per my Screenshots in post #2.
What version/build are you using?

Show me a screenshot of what OS version you are using please.
Start> Run> ...and type winver
..and/or, merge the reg I posted Here, and refresh, to show it on your Desktop and a screenshot of that will do, or both :)
...and is your OS x86 or x64
 
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