How to reinstate WinMail onto Windows 8/10/11

[endeavor]

You seem not to even understand the very basics, and this is why this procedure is for intermediate users.
When I told you to reboot was not intended to ever fix your whole problem to make it all work on your next reboot, the reboot is only needed to clear all the current instances of the Wrong WinMail.exe that you keep clicking and activate into memory that was/is not suppose to be there at all in the first place, that's all. Only then with no incorrect WinMail.exe running in memory can you proceed to run the correct one - as they both will Not run together.

Right now there is no way around this, from a fresh boot, you need to do the steps all over again, and in the right order, and in the right way, which for one will replace the incorrect files you put there, to succeed, so that when you do it all right, and then when it's time and you start the Correct WinMail.exe it will start instantly.
Take special note to what I have written in red there - you seem to miss those parts on step 2 and therein is part of your problem.
The whole process should only take you a few minutes really.
I am trying to be a patient as I can, and above all respectful, but you have to do your part.

 

[ReneVanDelft]

Yes, I understood what you said about the reboot, but as mentioned, that did not work out well.
Again, after (rebooting and) doing the steps (reading the red warnings properly this time...) which do not seem to be complicated indeed, the same problem keeps occurring: after trying to start WinMail, it keeps on loading these in the background (so without showing a GUI) several hundreds of times. Thanks for your patience, but I guess I have to give up. It is not for myself, but for a friend who wants to keep using WinMail (and be able to use old mail-files).

 

[endeavor]

after trying to start WinMail, it keeps on loading these in the background (so without showing a GUI) several hundreds of times.

And I keep trying to tell you over and over again, that exact problem you explain happens when you are running the wrong x86 or x64 winmail.exe and/or from the wrong folder. You haven't even said which bit OS you are running - it matters! If you follow the directions correctly it will work!

 

[ReneVanDelft]

Both new OS (Windows 10) and old are 64. After the mistake of using Program Files x86 I never touched it again... I cannot see what I did wrong yet.
(Have to go now. Golden tips still welcome of course. Bye!)

 

[endeavor]

Both new OS (Windows 10) and old are 64. After the mistake of using Program Files x86 I never touched it again... I cannot see what I did wrong yet.
(Have to go now. Golden tips still welcome of course. Bye!)

I can reproduce your issue in a few ways.
Follow directions properly.
Start a fresh boot, meaning no instances of any WinMail.exe running in Task Manager before you start fresh!

Follow and re-do all the steps in order, but also You need to take particular attention to:
Make sure on Step 2. you properly Take Ownership
Make sure on Step 3. you actually delete the whole "Program Files/Windows Mail" folder - make sure its gone!
*!* Make sure you are unzipping the correct files for Your 64bit OS = "(x64)WM_ProgramsFolder.zip"
Make sure for Step 4. you copy the unzipped Correct x64 "Windows Mail" folder in the same place of Step 3. (no nested dual Windows Mail folders either - just a single address of "Program Files/Windows Mail")
Make sure for Step 6. your (x64) is using the correct msidcrl30.dll from = (x64)msidcrl30.dll.zip

Follow directions properly from Post #1 and in 30 seconds you can have WM open properly

When you find where you went astray Rene, which you will !
...please post back here to let us know so that it will help others, thank you.

.

 

[ReneVanDelft]

Hi Endeavor, as mentioned on the Thumbs up comment, I succeeded...
In previous attempts I renamed the WinMail folder as installed by default by Windows, thinking that would have the same effect. This time I thoroughly killed it. But on this same succesful action I downloaded your WinMail folder, instead of using the one that was in use on the Vista (64) machine. So, still not 100% sure what was decisive. I would guess it was step 3 above.
Thanks again!

 

[endeavor]

Well congratulations Rene,

Yes it's possible to rename the folder and copy in the new one sure one can do that, however I outline to do it the way I do since it's clear cut, fewer human mistakes with mixing up folders which 25% do. Since it's important to replace nearly all the files and not just one like on Win7, and so just deleting the folder (which also proves out permissions were done right) then copying in the right folder in its place is foolproof from human errors, and the process is simplicity on a number of levels.
I took that folder right from my own Vista x64, and so if you had Vista x64 then yes you yourself could of used your own folder - there is no difference (except maybe file version numbers depending on WU timing, but not really relevant since they all will work) I have a feeling you mistakenly took the files from your Vista programs x86 folder and is the only logical explanation why it went off into multiple instances, because that's the only thing that will cause that.
I was insistent with you because I knew what I was saying ..but getting you to listen and just Do It at first was another story.

Having a person go through the steps methodically, step by step and do exactly what it says, will work 100% of the time, ..and for those that make a mistake on their own along the way, then by going back through the step by step process Always flushes the problems out - proven time and time again.

Anyway you succeeded and that's the point - nice job Rene!

Have a great year..

 

[dacorsa]

hi guys!

after last update of win10 of 12/07/2016 my Windows mail doesn't start anymore , tells me that doesn't find database, also if i create a new database i have an error numer 0x8010000A

how can i do??

thanks

 

[billg226]

You'll find after every major Update to 10 it will get broke. Example, an Update to Remove Malicious Software & Bugs was released on 7/12/16 and it broke mine thus had to start from scratch again. Go to this link & follow it carefully if you still want to keep using Windows Mail. http://www.eightforums.com/browsers-mail/3698-how-use-winmail-windows-8-a.html#post91690 Post#10. Good luck........Bill

 

[endeavor]

hi guys!

after last update of win10 of 12/07/2016 my Windows mail doesn't start anymore...

Hello dacorsa,

You also have this same duplicate post question in the Windows 10 forum Here
...and the answer is the same as billg226 gave you, just replace your Windows Mail programs folder with your working one; similar resolve as the post just before yours in post #241 - please always put the effort in to read through the answers first before you post.

As bill said, all instructions and explanations of these problems are on Post 1, please get familiar with it if you are going to use WinMail.

Thank you, and have a great day!

 

[dacorsa]

Thanks my friends,

now works is all ok!

 

[CJRyan]

I've been using Windows Mail on Windows 10. After a recent windows update, it stopped working. It took a while, but thanks to following directions and keeping a backup copy of the old working files on a flash drive, I was able to restore it.
Here's how, as a reminder: delete the Windows Mail Folder in Program Files (NOT (x86) program files))...May have to use Take Ownership program)...and make sure no part of the program is running. I had to go into task manager to close out running windows mail process before it would let me delete.
After deleting, copy and paste the old, working windows mail folder from flash drive to Program Files folder. Run the registry editor files provided below and voila.....working again. So happy. I love the simple interface, uncomplicated folder options and clean appearance of Windows mail.
Thanks for all the help

 

[endeavor]

Hello CJRyan,

Welcome to the Eight Forums!
I am glad you got it working again.
Once you get the hang of what to do, you can restore WinMail working in less than a minute.
You will want to run the Take Ownership program automatically, and then delete the WinMail folder.
I suppose if one was trying to get WinMail to open when it was not working, even clicking repeatedly, yes then there would be instances of WinMail.exe running in task manager, and so yes end-task on it, or reboot to clear all instances before you can proceed.

fwiw, all that instructional information has already long been posted in this forum on Post #1 Here

Thank you for your post to be of help, and have a great day!

Edit:
..and thinking about it a bit more, that's situation is good point CJRyan and we've run across this before. I just assumed that people would know what to do but I feel now it's a good idea to mention it as standard - and so I've edited my main post noting that scenario, thank you.

If WinMail will not open after an update, and you've been clicking WinMail.exe to get it to start, then be sure to reboot Before you start the repair to clear any running instances of WinMail.exe first; or instead you can open Task Manager and end-task on any running instances of WinMail.exe Before you proceed to delete the program folder.

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[FC TC]

Here's a solution for all who want to use winmail and windows 8.

The procedure is almost the same as windows 7 , but we will need a dll file.

First , we do the same procedure as in windows 7 :

a) Take ownership of winmail forder ( if you use windows 8x64 , you need to take oweneship of program files/winmail and program files(x86)/winmail). Remember to check the " show system files " before that.

b) Delete all the files in winmail forder and replace them with the windows 7 / winmail files.

c) Copy msidcrl30.dll to c:/windows/system32 folder

d) Now , we have to register the above dll. Open cmd and type : regsvr32 "c:/windows/system32\msidcrl30.dll" and press enter.

Reboot , just in case , and you're done !!

This worked for me in Windows 10. Here we are 4 years later, and Outlook Express/WinMail still lives! Thanks

 

[endeavor]

This worked for me in Windows 10. Here we are 4 years later, and Outlook Express/WinMail still lives! Thanks

With all confidences Post #1 is the complete proper way to reinstate WinMail on Win8/10...

 

[Ex_Brit]

Pleased to report my Vista Windows Mail is working fine in 10 with the Anniversary Update. All I had to do was beforehand save a copy of the x64 WM folder to my Desktop. After the update rename Windows Mail to WM.old and then paste my saved copy in and Bingo all working. The update seemed to have left most of my other minor mollifications in place, except Aeroglass, which is broken and that's a problem for the MSFN community anyway.

 

[endeavor]

Yes as explained that's all you need to do Peter is take ownership and replace that WinMail folder after the install. It's what I did and WinMail is working fine in the Win 10 Anniversary Update (build 14393 1607)

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It's nice to hear from you Peter, and I hope all is well

 

[Ex_Brit]

All is fine thank you and hope you are well ;-)

 

[Ex_Brit]

Well it was fine. I had WinMail working in 10 AFTER the Anniversary Update.
Now I'm getting this which I haven't seen before:

 

[Ex_Brit]

Above problem rectified by dropping the Win Vista x64 WinMail folder into Program Files......that's the second time I did that, odd.