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Solved How to display Windows 8 mouse pointer by default


fvisagie

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#1
Hi All,

After many previous issues were solved by Google hits to this forum I thought I'd come looking here for answers to the latest :).

I'm using a Windows 8 64-bit ASUS VivoBook S200E as home media centre. The player is MPC-HC and the Bluetooth remote uses mouse movements and keypresses to browse the playlist and control playback. It's working very nicely, except for one problem - the mouse pointer is never visible! The only way to activate it is by making gestures with the touchpad (or with a mouse). That means getting up which isn't what remotes are all about ;). The computer has a touch screen, but that isn't used and doesn't affect the mouse pointer anyway.

I've been told that this behaviour is a Windows 8 "feature" for touch screen devices - the device being in touch mode by default and not displaying the mouse pointer until pointer movement is detected. I've tried all settings I could think of but nothing so far has changed this behaviour. Just to be clear, we're not talking about "hide mouse while typing" kind of behaviour. In this case, when the machine boots up there is no cursor, and it remains invisible for ever, unless you move a touchpad or mouse.

Is there some setting or registry value I could modify to change this behaviour?

Alternatively, is there some script I could use to just jiggle the mouse at startup? I've used Windows Scripting Host for things like this before, but the SendKeys method seems not to support mouse control.

Any other suggestions for fixing this problem will be appreciated too. If it can be avoided I'd prefer not to download and install additional tools.

I'm holding thumbs! Many thanks in advance,
Francois
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 64-bit
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook S200E (X202EP)
    CPU
    Intel Celeron 847 @ 1.1GHz
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    2GB
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    Intel HD 32GB RAM
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XweAponX

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#2
You mean your system shows no Mouse AT ALL, unless you move the mouse around?

Open your Control Panel Mouse Options, and there should be an option to Locate the Mouse by pressing the CTRL button. Then at least yo can press CTRL on the remote and it should show you where the mouse is.

If you had an iPhone, I would be telling you to install Mobile Mouse, and you install the server into the PC. Using that, you can move the mouse remotely with an iPhone.

There is another, there's a Windows 8 Mouse, it's just called "WiFiSend" by Benzle, and it wakes up better than Mobile Mouse plus it is made for Windows 8.

How if you tried shutting off the Touch Screen totally?
 

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    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
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    2 GB/3GB
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    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
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    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
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    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
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    Chrome/IE 10
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    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
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    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.

fvisagie

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#3
You mean your system shows no Mouse AT ALL, unless you move the mouse around?
That's right.

Open your Control Panel Mouse Options, and there should be an option to Locate the Mouse by pressing the CTRL button. Then at least yo can press CTRL on the remote and it should show you where the mouse is.
That helps somewhat by locating the pointer. Some elements also generate tooltips, but as you can imagine this approach isn't ideal.

There is another, there's a Windows 8 Mouse, it's just called "WiFiSend" by Benzle, and it wakes up better than Mobile Mouse plus it is made for Windows 8.
I'm loathe to add utility clutter for such a trivial issue, frustrating as it may be. I am currently having a look at Move Mouse, though.

How if you tried shutting off the Touch Screen totally?
I had high hopes for that, but no luck. By process of elimination I identified and turned it off in Device Manager - it's unimaginatively called "USB Composite Device".

Thanks for your suggestions. Any other ideas?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 64-bit
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook S200E (X202EP)
    CPU
    Intel Celeron 847 @ 1.1GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD 32GB RAM
    Browser
    Firefox
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    Avira

XweAponX

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#4
Move mouse... You mean Mousemove? That may work.

What I don't get is why the mouse should be invisible - check any system drivers, there should be additional software for the touchpad and there may be something in there. If you let me know what kind of system it is I can look up the manual.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.

XweAponX

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#5
Oh yah, neither mobile mouse server now wifi send server use up much resources at all. Mobile mouse server uses bonjour aka mdnsresponder.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.

fvisagie

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What I don't get is why the mouse should be invisible - check any system drivers, there should be additional software for the touchpad and there may be something in there.
This seems to be intended Windows behaviour. A developer told me
I found one forum post with a developer trying to get around this issue. After further investigation he found that the Windows GetCursorInfo function was returning the CURSOR_SUPPRESSED flag. After reading the documentation it appears this condition was introduced with Windows 8 and the documentation is as follows: “Windows 8: The cursor is suppressed. This flag indicates that the system is not drawing the cursor because the user is providing input through touch or pen instead of the mouse.” Unfortunately he could not find any solution to the problem.
If you let me know what kind of system it is I can look up the manual.
It's an ASUS VivoBook S200E (X202EP). I hope you have better luck than me, as is the current rage the "user manual" I found makes it all look simple and easy but actually tells you almost nothing ;).
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    Windows 8 64-bit
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook S200E (X202EP)
    CPU
    Intel Celeron 847 @ 1.1GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD 32GB RAM
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fvisagie

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Just an update - Move Mouse does the trick!

I still would like to go looking for Windows settings in the Registry, and the developer of the remote control software (Vectir) also has some tricks up his sleeve. But at least there is a solution to this already :D. Thanks for the inputs.

PS. I'll post back if anything comes of registry settings and/or Vectir modifications.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8 64-bit
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook S200E (X202EP)
    CPU
    Intel Celeron 847 @ 1.1GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD 32GB RAM
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Avira

XweAponX

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#8
Ah - So that program moves the mouse after a certain amount of Inactivity? Yah, thats what you need. You could try the other things I mention only if you have a Droid or iPhone.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro with Media Center/Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus § DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2300 MHz (11.5 x 200) 4400+ § Corsair Value Select
    CPU
    AMD 4400+/4200+
    Motherboard
    Asus M2N-MX SE Plus/Asus A8M2N-LA (NodusM)
    Memory
    2 GB/3GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce 8400 GS/GeForce 210
    Sound Card
    nVIDIA GT218 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hitachi 40" LCD HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    "1842 x 1036"
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD50 00AAKS-007AA SCSI Disk Device
    ST1000DL 002-9TT153 SCSI Disk Device
    WDC WD3200AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device
    WDC WD32 WD-WCAPZ2942630 USB Device
    WD My Book 1140 USB Device
    PSU
    Works 550w
    Case
    MSI "M-Box"
    Cooling
    Water Cooled
    Keyboard
    Dell Keyboard
    Mouse
    Microsoft Intellimouse
    Internet Speed
    Cable Medium Speed
    Browser
    Chrome/IE 10
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32 6.x/Win Defend
    Other Info
    Recently lost my Windows 8 on my main PC, had to go back to Windows 7.

fvisagie

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The registry value in question is:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System]
"EnableCursorSuppression"=dword:00000001

Vectir has also found a fix which is being implemented.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8 64-bit
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook S200E (X202EP)
    CPU
    Intel Celeron 847 @ 1.1GHz
    Memory
    2GB
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    Intel HD 32GB RAM
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timiil

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The registry value in question is:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System]
"EnableCursorSuppression"=dword:00000001

Vectir has also found a fix which is being implemented.

hello, i am face the same problem, with using a tablet which using win8.1
i had try use MouseMove, can see the system had recived the mouse move message but the cursor still not show.
try to set the registry you had mentioned about to zero, but not any effect.
You said Vectir had a fix about this, could you liketo do me a favour give me the link about it? because i had search in their forum but get no result. thanks you vey much :)
 

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fvisagie

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http://www.vectir.com/download/pc/:
Date: 22 November, 2013 | Version: 3.2.1.0 stable


Updates in this release:


  • ...
  • Fixed mouse cursor visibility issue on Windows 8 touch screen devices
  • ...
From this release Vectir uses the SendInput function to generate mouse movement events; previously it was using SetCursorPos.

Hope this helps!

Cheers,
Francois
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 64-bit
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook S200E (X202EP)
    CPU
    Intel Celeron 847 @ 1.1GHz
    Memory
    2GB
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    Intel HD 32GB RAM
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fvisagie

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I have the same issue with my HP Elitepad 900 G1 running Windows 8.1.
The Vectir version is 3.5.1.0.
Hi liviunazarie, I suggest you take this up with Vectir's support if you haven't yet done so. Responsiveness is always good and I only turned to this forum in this case when it turned out more outside knowledge was needed.

Let us know how it goes!
 

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    Windows 8 64-bit
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    Laptop
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    ASUS VivoBook S200E (X202EP)
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    Intel Celeron 847 @ 1.1GHz
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    2GB
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    Intel HD 32GB RAM
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This problem is not exclusive to touchpad devices.

I installed Windows 8.1 in an old desktop machine I have so I could hook it up to the tv and use the Netflix app. My plan was to use the Remote Mouse app on my iPhone, but the cursor doesn't show up unless there's an actual mouse connected to the machine (and it disappears as soon as I disconnect the mouse).
 

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Daxter

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Is it just when you run the program??
 

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No. If I turn on the machine without a mouse Windows starts without a cursor, it only shows up when I connect the mouse, and disappears again when I disconnect it.
 

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rorackowe

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[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System]
"EnableCursorSuppression"=dword:00000001
is the answer, change the dword: value to 0 and the cursor should reappear, no need for any additional process.
It has just worked for me with remote desktop into Windows 10. And then stopped working <sigh>
 

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