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Solved How did 8 hack into my network?! No PW entered....


cognus

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#1
how? :think:
it just zapped right into my well secured [I thought] ap....
 

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    Win 8.1, Win 10P, Win7-all, RIP XPP, 'droid 2.2, 2.3,4.x, 5..IOS,
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    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    many: E5440, 430 G1, E45, G4-1117DX, X120E, DC7600, X83VB-X2, NC10, Droids, Galaxy,
    CPU
    too many
    Motherboard
    ditto
    Memory
    ditto
    Graphics Card(s)
    ditto
    Internet Speed
    30mbps

alphanumeric

slightly off center
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#2
WIFI connection?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
    Memory
    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
    Sound Card
    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
    PSU
    Thermaltake TR 620
    Case
    Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Stock heatsink fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech M570 Trackball and T650 TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
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    HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2

WiFi Ed

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#3
how? :think:
it just zapped right into my well secured [I thought] ap....
I know how you feel! After installing the CP version a few months back and setting up the user account with my Windows Live ID I setup my home WiFi connection. Since then, every time I've installed Windows 8 with my Windows Live ID, including the RTM version, it magically "remembers" my WiFi password (as well as my Twitter login, my GMail account, and who knows what else).

Very convenient, but a little scary...:eek:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell E520
    CPU
    Intel Q6700 Core 2 Quad - 2.66 GHz
    Motherboard
    Whatever Dell put in there...
    Memory
    8 GB Mushkin 800 MHz DDR2
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GTX 650 - 2 GB GDDR5
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x 19" ViewSonic LCD's
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1024
    Hard Drives
    1 Intel X25-M 120G SSD, 2 WD RE4 2TB HD's
    PSU
    PCPower & Cooling Silencer 500 Watt
    Internet Speed
    100/10 Time Warner Cable

cognus

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#4
ok... marked 'solved'.
and just in case anyone was wondering, I AM a certified idiot. sheesh....
 

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  • OS
    Win 8.1, Win 10P, Win7-all, RIP XPP, 'droid 2.2, 2.3,4.x, 5..IOS,
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    many: E5440, 430 G1, E45, G4-1117DX, X120E, DC7600, X83VB-X2, NC10, Droids, Galaxy,
    CPU
    too many
    Motherboard
    ditto
    Memory
    ditto
    Graphics Card(s)
    ditto
    Internet Speed
    30mbps

Tepid

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#5
This is because, If you setup an account with Live ID
And you have Synch Settings turned on, Settings are saved in the cloud separate from all other data you might save (ie; SkyDrive)
This will synch your settings across Win8 PC's, so, you go to a friends house, login to their 8 PC, and there is your GUI and how you loike things setup
It does not put your files there. But network Passwords etc.

Windows 8 Synch Settings - Bing
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Self Built
    CPU
    I7-3770K
    Motherboard
    ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77
    Memory
    CORSAIR 8GB 2X4 D3 1866
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GTX680 4GB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS 24" LED VG248QE
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG E 256GB SSD 840 PRO -
    SAMSUNG E 120GB SSD840 -
    SEAGATE 1TB PIPELINE
    PSU
    CORSAIR GS800
    Case
    CORSAIR 600T
    Cooling
    CORSAIR HYDRO H100I LIQUID COOLER
    Keyboard
    THERMALTA CHALLENGER ULT GAME-KYBRD
    Mouse
    RAZER DEATHADDER GAME MS BLK-ED
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
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    APC 1000VA -
    LGELECOEM LG 14X SATA BD BURNER -
    CORSAIR SP120 Fans x 3 -
    NZXT 5.25 USB3 BAY CARD READER -
    HAUPPAUGE COLOSSUS

Hopachi

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#6
how? :think:
it just zapped right into my well secured [I thought] ap....
That online account is in general a bit scary, so that's why l never use it to log in on the OS. The advantage is that everything gets synchronized so you don't have to click and manually replace the files from usb sticks... but it's what I usually do, so I got muscles on my fingers.:thumb:

All goes fast with the new accounts. But if one of you accounts gets hacked then ALL your data is in trouble.:( (Let's hope all those sites are well secured.)

I have to admit that the new features are great.
But you'll eventually get lazy and dependent of them... and one day you forget how to copy / paste just like we all forgot about the command prompt / DOS ui. No need to cry about this one, it's evolution, it always happens. You use the features you like and you don't use the ones you don't like, but you have to know a bit how they work to decide.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 x64
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    HP Envy DV6 7250
    CPU
    Intel i7-3630QM
    Motherboard
    HP, Intel HM77 Express Chipset
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD4000 + Nvidia Geforce 630M
    Sound Card
    IDT HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6' built-in + Samsung S22D300 + 17.3' LG Phillips
    Screen Resolution
    multiple resolutions
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 250GB + Hitachi HDD 750GB
    PSU
    120W adapter
    Case
    small
    Cooling
    laptop cooling pad
    Keyboard
    Backlit built-in + big one in USB
    Mouse
    SteelSeries Sensei
    Internet Speed
    slow and steady
    Browser
    Chromium, Pale Moon, Firefox Developer Edition
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    That's basically it.

alphanumeric

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#7
Something here doesn't make sense to me? If you're only network connection is a WIFI connection, during the install, Windows 8 will ask you what wireless network you want to connect to. If its an encrypted network it will also ask for the password for that network. If your WIFI requires a password windows can't connect without it. If it can't connect, it can't sync with your live ID to get the password all by itself. So I'm guessing some of you are installing with the PC connected to your network with a cable. Then later on discovering that your WIFI is already setup correctly for you?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
    Memory
    8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
    Sound Card
    VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Crucial MX100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
    PSU
    Thermaltake TR 620
    Case
    Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Stock heatsink fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
    Mouse
    Logitech M570 Trackball and T650 TouchPad
    Internet Speed
    80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2

WiFi Ed

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#8
Something here doesn't make sense to me? If you're only network connection is a WIFI connection, during the install, Windows 8 will ask you what wireless network you want to connect to. If its an encrypted network it will also ask for the password for that network. If your WIFI requires a password windows can't connect without it. If it can't connect, it can't sync with your live ID to get the password all by itself. So I'm guessing some of you are installing with the PC connected to your network with a cable. Then later on discovering that your WIFI is already setup correctly for you?
That's probably it...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell E520
    CPU
    Intel Q6700 Core 2 Quad - 2.66 GHz
    Motherboard
    Whatever Dell put in there...
    Memory
    8 GB Mushkin 800 MHz DDR2
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GTX 650 - 2 GB GDDR5
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x 19" ViewSonic LCD's
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1024
    Hard Drives
    1 Intel X25-M 120G SSD, 2 WD RE4 2TB HD's
    PSU
    PCPower & Cooling Silencer 500 Watt
    Internet Speed
    100/10 Time Warner Cable