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Help with boot logo


aar407

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#1
Hi,

I bought a machine with windows 8 installed on it from hp. After putting in my details, I noticed that the boot logo shows the hp logo

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I've looked at youtube videos on windows 8 booting and they show the windows 8 logo.

Is there a way to change it back to the windows 8 logo or am I stuck with it?

Al
 

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MrShowdown

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#3
My 8 year old cousin got Toshiba logo, and it's awful!
It makes the bootscreen not Windows 8-style
 

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amoled

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#4
Hi,

I bought a machine with windows 8 installed on it from hp. After putting in my details, I noticed that the boot logo shows the hp logo



I've looked at youtube videos on windows 8 booting and they show the windows 8 logo.

Is there a way to change it back to the windows 8 logo or am I stuck with it?

Al
Hello, I have just registered with the forum to help you with this. Turns out the boot logo resides in (C://Windows/Boot/Resources) you WILL NEED to take ownership of the Resources folder in order to make changes (or in this case RENAME your existing bootres.dll to hpbootres.dll then drop and paste the new bootres.dll), after that you can reboot and you should boot with the new Windows 8 logo. If you are ready to do this I can send you the file you need if you would be so kind to SEND ME the file with the HP logo (hpbootres.dll or before you rename it bootres.dll, as previously explained) . Let me know, for I want the same as you but with the HP logo instead.

:cool:
 

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Coke Robot

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The Toshiba logo SUCKS, I agree! But I don't know if a UEFI based PC can allow that change, as that's flashed into the UEFI BIOS firmware chip. Not sure if that can be overrided within Windows. I know if you use BIOS over EUFI, it's possible.
 

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aar407

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#6
Hi amoled

Here is the hpbootres file as requested

View attachment hpbootres.zip

Please can you send the original bootres file to me.

Thanks

aar407
 

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    Windows 8
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    Hewlett-Packard
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    6GB (2+4)
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    Intel HD 4000
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    1
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    1366x768
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    2 (1x 1TB and 1x 20GB - Recovery)
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Hopachi

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#7
I wonder how the Toshiba boot logo looks like. :)
The hp logo is not that bad at all... still native colors; I always thought it was hidden in WinRE partition but guess I was wrong.

@amoled
Thanks for the info!

@aar407
That system resembles mine a lot, also HP. :thumb:

To confirm: the bootres.dll is indeed different from the RTM disk one but I'll test this in A VM first, if I'll give it a try, since I don't like taking ownership of system files.
 

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#8
I wonder how the Toshiba boot logo looks like. :)
The hp logo is not that bad at all... still native colors; I always thought it was hidden in WinRE partition but guess I was wrong.

@amoled
Thanks for the info!

@aar407
That system resembles mine a lot, also HP. :thumb:

To confirm: the bootres.dll is indeed different from the RTM disk one but I'll test this in A VM first, if I'll give it a try, since I don't like taking ownership of system files.
Toshiba%20Logo.jpg
Toshiba's logo doesn't really strike me as leading innovation... :) It doesn't look very nice at all for a boot screen, a simple TOSHIBA in red would had been a tad better.
 

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    ASUS
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    AMD FX 8320
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    Crosshair V Formula-Z
    Memory
    16 gig DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS R9 270
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Seagate Barracuda (starting to hate Seagate)
    x2 3 TB Toshibas
    Windows 8.1 is installed on a SanDisk Ultra Plus 256 GB
    PSU
    OCZ 500 watt
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    A current work in progres as I'll be building the physical case myself. It shall be fantastic.
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    Arctic Cooler with 3 heatpipes
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    Logitech K750 wireless solar powered keyboard
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    Microsoft Touch Mouse
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    Internet Explorer 11
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    Windows Defender, but I might go back on KIS 2014

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#9
I wonder how the Toshiba boot logo looks like. :)
The hp logo is not that bad at all... still native colors; I always thought it was hidden in WinRE partition but guess I was wrong.

@amoled
Thanks for the info!

@aar407
That system resembles mine a lot, also HP. :thumb:

To confirm: the bootres.dll is indeed different from the RTM disk one but I'll test this in A VM first, if I'll give it a try, since I don't like taking ownership of system files.
View attachment 20361
Toshiba's logo doesn't really strike me as leading innovation... :) It doesn't look very nice at all for a boot screen, a simple TOSHIBA in red would had been a tad better.
It's bigger than I thought. At least it has some red on it so you can keep it. :)
 

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    HP Envy DV6 7250
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    Intel i7-3630QM
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    HP, Intel HM77 Express Chipset
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    16GB
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    Intel HD4000 + Nvidia Geforce 630M
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amoled

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#10
Please can you send the original bootres file to me.

Thanks

aar407
Hello aar407 As I had a chance to get a hold of a HP boot file from a different source other than yours I was able to try switching the HP bootres.dll with mine and IMO it didn't work (it did boot but without a logo) as I had more time to review on the subject this is what I found and what I MADE of everything I've read so far:

The newer machines have an architecture (UEFI) that boots differently from the older model motherboards (CSM) this is done ON PURPOSE so if any corruption takes place on the system files the BOOT does not get compromised and the system boots normally, therefore the boot takes place on the motherboards firmware directly from hardware and it is OEM dependant.While the older motherboards use the typical CSM boot relying on the system files .

I am not sure as of WHY on the UEFI models there is a bootres.dll that DOES NOT contain the OEM logo and instead have the w8 logo since it is not being used.
Here I am attaching a bootres.dll that contains the w8 logo HOWEVER if your computer comes with windows 8 installed and it boots with an OEM logo (hp in your case) I think it wont make any difference if you switch the file or not.

**IMPORTANT**
If windows 8 is INSTALLED using UEFI mode the OEM logo will show up, if it is installed in a machine UEFI capable but instead the user does it via CSM it will PROBABLY use the bootres.dll that resides in Windows/Boot/Resources ..

Also I did a whole lot of reading on decompiling the bootres.dll and although I was able to extract the folder that contains the boot logo BMPs on either files (HP bootres.dll and a non UEFI system) BOTH LOGOS WERE the ones with w8.
As for being able to HACK the bootres.dll I called it quits by the time I realized I needed more knowledge on the subject to recompile the bootres.dll with CHANGED logos (there are certificates signed on the file that prevents tampering with it).

I am sure and look forward that someone with knowledge on the subject (decompressing .dll and extracting the .wim modifying it and recompiling the .dll with the correct certificate and the whole nine yards) will come forward and take this as his personal challenge for there is no bigger challenge than to do something no one has yet accomplished (specially in these times of globalization and fast communications) .

Greetings to everyone and hope I didnt bore you all too much with this :D

(Attached is the bootres.txt rename it to bootres.dll it would not let me upload it as a .dll)
If you use 7zip you can extract directly the contents and you can see for yourself what I mean for BOTH my file and your .dll
 

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I've did the test in a Win8 VM, without UEFI, with normal boot logo and I tried to add the HP logo from my host: it also DIDN'T work (HP one is UEFI though).
As I suspected first: Don't forget there is also a hidden partition with no drive letter called 'System Reserved', also one called 'Recovery' or 'WinRE' and even one With 'MS...' depending on installation of system or manufacturer. And all (at least most) of those partitions contain the bootres file.

However, in my case for the VM it had just two partitions and I modified both bootres files but it also didn't work.

Then something came up:
I decided to make a UEFI usb stick with Win8 RTM (not the one form HP).
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/15458-uefi-bootable-usb-flash-drive-create-windows.html

If I boot this usb on my HP host with UEFI, it shows the HP logo during boot even if the logo is not on the USB stick.

@amoled
You're right: UEFI loads oem logo but it will do this on all boot devices containing Win8 no matter the source.

I don't want to compromize the boot of a working computer so I'll leave the files in their original state. Don't mess with certificates and your UEFI boot files because it can render your install unbootable.
 

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    Windows 10 x64
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    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Envy DV6 7250
    CPU
    Intel i7-3630QM
    Motherboard
    HP, Intel HM77 Express Chipset
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD4000 + Nvidia Geforce 630M
    Sound Card
    IDT HD Audio
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    15.6' built-in + Samsung S22D300 + 17.3' LG Phillips
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    120W adapter
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amoled

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#12
So until someone finds the way it is not possible to change the W8 boot logo YET.
 

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  • OS
    W8 Pro 9200
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    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Y460
    CPU
    Intel core i3 M350 2.27Ghz
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
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#13
Hi,

I bought a machine with windows 8 installed on it from hp. After putting in my details, I noticed that the boot logo shows the hp logo



I've looked at youtube videos on windows 8 booting and they show the windows 8 logo.

Is there a way to change it back to the windows 8 logo or am I stuck with it?

Al
Hello, I have just registered with the forum to help you with this. Turns out the boot logo resides in (C://Windows/Boot/Resources) you WILL NEED to take ownership of the Resources folder in order to make changes (or in this case RENAME your existing bootres.dll to hpbootres.dll then drop and paste the new bootres.dll), after that you can reboot and you should boot with the new Windows 8 logo. If you are ready to do this I can send you the file you need if you would be so kind to SEND ME the file with the HP logo (hpbootres.dll or before you rename it bootres.dll, as previously explained) . Let me know, for I want the same as you but with the HP logo instead.

:cool:
But can i put a logo of my choice. I know that's possible because I have senn that some people change it with a different logo on Asus G75-VX Boot - YouTube.
 

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amoled

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#14
Hi,

I bought a machine with windows 8 installed on it from hp. After putting in my details, I noticed that the boot logo shows the hp logo



I've looked at youtube videos on windows 8 booting and they show the windows 8 logo.

Is there a way to change it back to the windows 8 logo or am I stuck with it?

Al
Hello, I have just registered with the forum to help you with this. Turns out the boot logo resides in (C://Windows/Boot/Resources) you WILL NEED to take ownership of the Resources folder in order to make changes (or in this case RENAME your existing bootres.dll to hpbootres.dll then drop and paste the new bootres.dll), after that you can reboot and you should boot with the new Windows 8 logo. If you are ready to do this I can send you the file you need if you would be so kind to SEND ME the file with the HP logo (hpbootres.dll or before you rename it bootres.dll, as previously explained) . Let me know, for I want the same as you but with the HP logo instead.

:cool:
But can i put a logo of my choice. I know that's possible because I have senn that some people change it with a different logo on Asus G75-VX Boot - YouTube.
On the newer computers with UEFI support users will see an OEM boot logo whenever they boot W8;
On the link you provided you can see a ROG version boot screen :
G75VX - The Ultimate Fighting Machine
 

My Computer

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  • OS
    W8 Pro 9200
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Y460
    CPU
    Intel core i3 M350 2.27Ghz
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
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    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender

amoled

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#16
I have the same problem with my HP Windows 8.1 laptop. would that file work for me too?
If booting on UEFI it will show custom bootscreen if one is provided by OEM.
When booting non UEFI you should be looking at a normal Windows 8 logo bootscreen.
 

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System One

  • OS
    W8 Pro 9200
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Y460
    CPU
    Intel core i3 M350 2.27Ghz
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender

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