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[alphanumeric]

It would seem that your drive is toast.

Maybe, maybe not. It could just be the USB interface in the enclosure that failed. I don't think the OP has removed the drive from the enclosure yet. That would be my next move. A lot of those uitilities may actually work with the drive connected in a PC and removed from the enclosure.

I read this in earlier post "Yes I have pulled it out of the casing but it doesn't do anything better.
The model of the hard drive is WD Blue (EIDE) WD1600BEVE. "
so I assumed it's connected directly to IDE port. To connect 2.4" HDD to desktop PC it would need an adapter from micro (laptop ) connector to full size IDE for Desktop PC.

I am sorry if I misunderstood your sentences. Did you mean the pins?

The pins are soldered intact with IDE to USB 2.0 circuit.

That circuit card should detach from the hard drive if you pull it. There is another set of pins on the hard drive that are plugged into the header on that circuit board.

 

[alphanumeric]

Yes, I thought that the drive itself is independent of the adapter and housing itself, I have couple of them like that. HDD can actually be disconnected and placed in a laptop or suitable adapter to ordinary, full size IDE connector. LGH 2.5" HDD to 3.5" HDD Adapter with IDE Interface, Notebook HDD to Regular 40-Pin adapter or with this to USB Mini USB to ZIF/IDE 1.8" Adapter -- XRP International Co., Limited.

Man, I have got to learn to read all the posts in the tread before replying. lol, I didn't see that post where the circuit card was still attached until after I made my other post. I think its going to be one of those days.

EDIT: It does look like a laptop IDE drive so he will need an adapter to connect it in a desktop PC.

 

[MelissaM]

I read this in earlier post "Yes I have pulled it out of the casing but it doesn't do anything better.
The model of the hard drive is WD Blue (EIDE) WD1600BEVE. "
so I assumed it's connected directly to IDE port. To connect 2.4" HDD to desktop PC it would need an adapter from micro (laptop ) connector to full size IDE for Desktop PC.

Yes, I see that now, missed it before somehow, sorry. Yeah it sounds like the drive died.

I think so too what a shame. I thought I could use it at least for some document files for my work to carry around.

Yes, I thought that the drive itself is independent of the adapter and housing itself, I have couple of them like that. HDD can actually be disconnected and placed in a laptop or suitable adapter to ordinary, full size IDE connector. LGH 2.5" HDD to 3.5" HDD Adapter with IDE Interface, Notebook HDD to Regular 40-Pin adapter or with this to USB Mini USB to ZIF/IDE 1.8" Adapter -- XRP International Co., Limited.

If the problem lies there, it could have been better if the pins weren't soldered so I could easily remove it and try it with other functional converters.

EDIT: Refer to my next reply. What a slow realization I just had. LOL.

 

[MelissaM]

Maybe, maybe not. It could just be the USB interface in the enclosure that failed. I don't think the OP has removed the drive from the enclosure yet. That would be my next move. A lot of those uitilities may actually work with the drive connected in a PC and removed from the enclosure.

I read this in earlier post "Yes I have pulled it out of the casing but it doesn't do anything better.
The model of the hard drive is WD Blue (EIDE) WD1600BEVE. "
so I assumed it's connected directly to IDE port. To connect 2.4" HDD to desktop PC it would need an adapter from micro (laptop ) connector to full size IDE for Desktop PC.

I am sorry if I misunderstood your sentences. Did you mean the pins?

The pins are soldered intact with IDE to USB 2.0 circuit.

That circuit card should detach from the hard drive if you pull it. There is another set of pins on the hard drive that are plugged into the header on that circuit board.

OH WOW! I just felt like an idiot and slap myself! I kept on thinking the ports are THE pins so I didn't dare to pull it. After thinking it for a while... I was like: "Wait, it should be a set of PINS and I should be able to pull it out!".

Yes, I thought that the drive itself is independent of the adapter and housing itself, I have couple of them like that. HDD can actually be disconnected and placed in a laptop or suitable adapter to ordinary, full size IDE connector. LGH 2.5" HDD to 3.5" HDD Adapter with IDE Interface, Notebook HDD to Regular 40-Pin adapter or with this to USB Mini USB to ZIF/IDE 1.8" Adapter -- XRP International Co., Limited.

Man, I have got to learn to read all the posts in the tread before replying. lol, I didn't see that post where the circuit card was still attached until after I made my other post. I think its going to be one of those days.

EDIT: It does look like a laptop IDE drive so he will need an adapter to connect it in a desktop PC.

Haha. I think we are so efficient in replying that we didn't notice there are new replies when we submitted ours. I really enjoy this discussion somehow.

 

[alphanumeric]

I read this in earlier post "Yes I have pulled it out of the casing but it doesn't do anything better.
The model of the hard drive is WD Blue (EIDE) WD1600BEVE. "
so I assumed it's connected directly to IDE port. To connect 2.4" HDD to desktop PC it would need an adapter from micro (laptop ) connector to full size IDE for Desktop PC.

Yes, I see that now, missed it before somehow, sorry. Yeah it sounds like the drive died.

I think so too what a shame. I thought I could use it at least for some document files for my work to carry around.

Yes, I thought that the drive itself is independent of the adapter and housing itself, I have couple of them like that. HDD can actually be disconnected and placed in a laptop or suitable adapter to ordinary, full size IDE connector. LGH 2.5" HDD to 3.5" HDD Adapter with IDE Interface, Notebook HDD to Regular 40-Pin adapter or with this to USB Mini USB to ZIF/IDE 1.8" Adapter -- XRP International Co., Limited.

If the problem lies there, it could have been better if the pins weren't soldered so I could easily remove it and try it with other functional converters.

Just in case you missed my other post. That circuit card plugs into the drive and can be removed. The pins you see soldered into the card are for the header that is part of the card. That header connects to a mating header, or plug, on the hard drive. There is another set of pins on the hard drive that plug into the header on the circuit card. If hold the drive and you pull the circuit card away they will detach from each other.

 

[alphanumeric]

lol, it looks like everybody is finally getting in sync. I see that the OP figured it out and separated the hard drive from the adapter.

Anybody else noticing that the forum is slow today? I'm noticing delays when I'm posting.

 

[MelissaM]

Yes, I see that now, missed it before somehow, sorry. Yeah it sounds like the drive died.

I think so too what a shame. I thought I could use it at least for some document files for my work to carry around.

Yes, I thought that the drive itself is independent of the adapter and housing itself, I have couple of them like that. HDD can actually be disconnected and placed in a laptop or suitable adapter to ordinary, full size IDE connector. LGH 2.5" HDD to 3.5" HDD Adapter with IDE Interface, Notebook HDD to Regular 40-Pin adapter or with this to USB Mini USB to ZIF/IDE 1.8" Adapter -- XRP International Co., Limited.

If the problem lies there, it could have been better if the pins weren't soldered so I could easily remove it and try it with other functional converters.

Just in case you missed my other post. That circuit card plugs into the drive and can be removed. The pins you see soldered into the card are for the header that is part of the card. That header connects to a mating header, or plug, on the hard drive. There is another set of pins on the hard drive that plug into the header on the circuit card. If hold the drive and you pull the circuit card away they will detach from each other.

Ahaha! Yes. I just realized it (what the heck, brain) and made a reply on top of yours
So the next move is to find a new EIDE to USB port and test it again, correct?

Not to disrespect CountMike's advice. Please excuse me as I am not good in this field.
Do EIDE port and IDE port the same? Are they like USB 2.0 (EIDE) vs USB 3.0 (IDE) kind of generations?

lol, it looks like everybody is finally getting in sync. I see that the OP figured it out and separated the hard drive from the adapter.

Anybody else noticing that the forum is slow today? I'm noticing delays when I'm posting.

Yes, finally we are in sync!
I can't really feel it, maybe because I sure take my time making replies.

 

[CountMike]

lol, it looks like everybody is finally getting in sync. I see that the OP figured it out and separated the hard drive from the adapter.

Anybody else noticing that the forum is slow today? I'm noticing delays when I'm posting.

Yeah we might be all over the world and who knows where the server is. Anyway by the time I am writing this, just noticed another post coming from gmail.

 

[alphanumeric]

I think so too what a shame. I thought I could use it at least for some document files for my work to carry around.


If the problem lies there, it could have been better if the pins weren't soldered so I could easily remove it and try it with other functional converters.

Just in case you missed my other post. That circuit card plugs into the drive and can be removed. The pins you see soldered into the card are for the header that is part of the card. That header connects to a mating header, or plug, on the hard drive. There is another set of pins on the hard drive that plug into the header on the circuit card. If hold the drive and you pull the circuit card away they will detach from each other.

Ahaha! Yes. I just realized it (what the heck, brain) and made a reply on top of yours
So the next move is to find a new EIDE to USB port and test it again, correct?

Not to disrespect CountMike's advice. Please excuse me as I am not good in this field.
Do EIDE port and IDE port the same? Are they like USB 2.0 (EIDE) vs USB 3.0 (IDE) kind of generations?

lol, it looks like everybody is finally getting in sync. I see that the OP figured it out and separated the hard drive from the adapter.

Anybody else noticing that the forum is slow today? I'm noticing delays when I'm posting.

Yes, finally we are in sync!
I can't really feel it, maybe because I sure take my time making replies.

The deal is the laptop drives, the 2.5 inch form factor drives, have a different IDE connector than desktop drives, the 3.5 inch form factor drives. One is not compatible with the other without an adapter. If it had been a SATA drive it wouldn't matter, laptop and desktop drives use identical SATA ports.
Your options are to try another enclosure that is compatible with that drive or get an adapter that converts it to the desktop IDE or SATA. The second option may be cheaper. You need to know if your desktop PC has an IDE bus.

Something like this may also be an option, Newegg.ca - Rosewill RCW-608 USB2.0 Adapter For IDE/SATA Device (Include Protection case) I have one and have found it very useful. It may be overkill though if you think you will only ever use it once.

 

[CountMike]

I think so too what a shame. I thought I could use it at least for some document files for my work to carry around.



If the problem lies there, it could have been better if the pins weren't soldered so I could easily remove it and try it with other functional converters.

Just in case you missed my other post. That circuit card plugs into the drive and can be removed. The pins you see soldered into the card are for the header that is part of the card. That header connects to a mating header, or plug, on the hard drive. There is another set of pins on the hard drive that plug into the header on the circuit card. If hold the drive and you pull the circuit card away they will detach from each other.

Ahaha! Yes. I just realized it (what the heck, brain) and made a reply on top of yours
So the next move is to find a new EIDE to USB port and test it again, correct?

Not to disrespect CountMike's advice. Please excuse me as I am not good in this field.
Do EIDE port and IDE port the same? Are they like USB 2.0 (EIDE) vs USB 3.0 (IDE) kind of generations?

lol, it looks like everybody is finally getting in sync. I see that the OP figured it out and separated the hard drive from the adapter.

Anybody else noticing that the forum is slow today? I'm noticing delays when I'm posting.

Yes, finally we are in sync!
I can't really feel it, maybe because I sure take my time making replies.

E (Ehanced)IDE port is he full name and practically same thing as far as connectors are concerned. Don't want to make more confusion but it all falls under S.C.A.S.I standards. All IDE (EIDE) pins are compatible with 40 pins to each side but ATA 33 (UDMA 33) cables have 40 wires in the cable and ATA 66, 100, 133 and 150 (UDMA66 etc...) have 80 wires but still only 40 pins because every wire has a shielding for less interference at higher speeds.
Ugh, shouldn't have started this, it gets even more complicated from there.
Anyway if this HDD is really removed from that adapter, then to conect it again would requier one of those adapters I was talking about before because on 2.5" drives IDE (ATA) connectors are much smaller than on 3.5" drives. Those smaller ones are found in laptops and larger ones in the desktops but are electrically and logicaly compatible, in this case it's size that matters.

 

[alphanumeric]

I have two of these that haven't given me any issues, Newegg.ca - SABRENT SBT-ESU25 Aluminum 2.5" USB 2.0 External Enclosure I put a couple of old IDE laptop drives in them. I have my Windows To Go install on one of them.

 

[alphanumeric]

Just in case you missed my other post. That circuit card plugs into the drive and can be removed. The pins you see soldered into the card are for the header that is part of the card. That header connects to a mating header, or plug, on the hard drive. There is another set of pins on the hard drive that plug into the header on the circuit card. If hold the drive and you pull the circuit card away they will detach from each other.

Ahaha! Yes. I just realized it (what the heck, brain) and made a reply on top of yours
So the next move is to find a new EIDE to USB port and test it again, correct?

Not to disrespect CountMike's advice. Please excuse me as I am not good in this field.
Do EIDE port and IDE port the same? Are they like USB 2.0 (EIDE) vs USB 3.0 (IDE) kind of generations?

lol, it looks like everybody is finally getting in sync. I see that the OP figured it out and separated the hard drive from the adapter.

Anybody else noticing that the forum is slow today? I'm noticing delays when I'm posting.

Yes, finally we are in sync!
I can't really feel it, maybe because I sure take my time making replies.

E (Ehanced)IDE port is he full name and practically same thing as far as connectors are concerned. Don't want to make more confusion but it all falls under S.C.A.S.I standards. All IDE (EIDE) pins are compatible with 40 pins to each side but ATA 33 (UDMA 33) cables have 40 wires in the cable and ATA 66, 100, 133 and 150 (UDMA66 etc...) have 80 wires but still only 40 pins because every wire has a shielding for less interference at higher speeds.
Ugh, shouldn't have started this, it gets even more complicated from there.
Anyway if this HDD is really removed from that adapter, then to conect it again would requier one of those adapters I was talking about before because on 2.5" drives IDE (ATA) connectors are much smaller than on 3.5" drives. Those smaller ones are found in laptops and larger ones in the desktops but are electrically and logicaly compatible, in this case it's size that matters.

The pin out is different, aside from being smaller. Power is fed in on the laptop IDE along with data. On the 3.5 inch drives the power connector is separate. Sorry if it sounds like I'm nit picking, I'm an electronic technician by trade so stuff like this interests me more than most.

 

[CountMike]

I have two of these that haven't given me any issues, Newegg.ca - SABRENT SBT-ESU25 Aluminum 2.5" USB 2.0 External Enclosure I put a couple of old IDE laptop drives in them. I have my Windows To Go install on one of them.

Have exact one like that, worked good until it died on me. Anyway, it all could be a moot point if that drive is no good. So it should be checked first, preferably on a laptop with IDE so nothing has to be bought before hand and make things even more complicated.
Got to whach another thing, SATA is part of IDE standard (Serial ATA) the other one is PATA (Parallel ATA), that's the one with wider data cable and 40 pins.
Alpha, I was just writing this post when yours got updated (darn this lag). Yes that's a bit different wiring but that adapter takes that into account. Uuuups there comes another massage.

 

[alphanumeric]

I have two of these that haven't given me any issues, Newegg.ca - SABRENT SBT-ESU25 Aluminum 2.5" USB 2.0 External Enclosure I put a couple of old IDE laptop drives in them. I have my Windows To Go install on one of them.

Have exact one like that, worked good until it died on me. Anyway, it all could be a moot point if that drive is no good. So it should be checked first, preferably on a laptop with IDE so nothing has to be bought before hand and make things even more complicated.
Got to whach another thing, SATA is part of IDE standard (Serial ATA) the other one is PATA (Parallel ATA), that's the one with wider data cable and 40 pins.
Alpha, I was just writing this post when yours got updated (darn this lag). Yes that's a bit different wiring but that adapter takes that into account. Uuuups there comes another massage.

Testing it in a laptop could be tricky. I haven't seen too many with dual drive bays. Yeah the adapter will give you the wide IDE connector that will accept the IDE cable found in your desktop PC plus the molex power connector.

 

[CountMike]

Haven't heard from OP for awhile, guess that HDD is in the garbage by now.

 

[alphanumeric]

I have two of these that haven't given me any issues, Newegg.ca - SABRENT SBT-ESU25 Aluminum 2.5" USB 2.0 External Enclosure I put a couple of old IDE laptop drives in them. I have my Windows To Go install on one of them.

Have exact one like that, worked good until it died on me. Anyway, it all could be a moot point if that drive is no good. So it should be checked first, preferably on a laptop with IDE so nothing has to be bought before hand and make things even more complicated.
Got to whach another thing, SATA is part of IDE standard (Serial ATA) the other one is PATA (Parallel ATA), that's the one with wider data cable and 40 pins.
Alpha, I was just writing this post when yours got updated (darn this lag). Yes that's a bit different wiring but that adapter takes that into account. Uuuups there comes another massage.

True, enough. Most people know right away what your referring to when you say IDE. Mention PATA though? Not so much. Just about everybody know what SATA is. It can get very confusing though, that's for sure.

 

[alphanumeric]

Haven't heard from OP for awhile, guess that HDD is in the garbage by now.

He's still reading our posts and trying to catch up.

 

[CountMike]

I have two of these that haven't given me any issues, Newegg.ca - SABRENT SBT-ESU25 Aluminum 2.5" USB 2.0 External Enclosure I put a couple of old IDE laptop drives in them. I have my Windows To Go install on one of them.

Have exact one like that, worked good until it died on me. Anyway, it all could be a moot point if that drive is no good. So it should be checked first, preferably on a laptop with IDE so nothing has to be bought before hand and make things even more complicated.
Got to whach another thing, SATA is part of IDE standard (Serial ATA) the other one is PATA (Parallel ATA), that's the one with wider data cable and 40 pins.
Alpha, I was just writing this post when yours got updated (darn this lag). Yes that's a bit different wiring but that adapter takes that into account. Uuuups there comes another massage.

True, enough. Most people know right away what your referring to when you say IDE. Mention PATA though? Not so much. Just about everybody know what SATA is. It can get very confusing though, that's for sure.

Throw in there old standards like MFM and BFI with 2 cables (before IDE) and a dozen of other SCASI standards and you do get a mess. To say nothing about optical HDD connections.

 

[MelissaM]

Ahahaha. So sorry for the slow reply. Yeah, as alphanumeric guessed, I am catching up slowly (I must learn!) and wow, you guys are so helpful and thanks for willing to explain so much in detail! Definitely not gonna throw it into garbage bin until I can confirm it toasted.

I remember my brother is still having his PATA hard drive with USB 2.0 to IDE. Will it work if I test it with that?
Also my brother might still have his old desktop around that probably has IDE bus. I think I can only check it out tomorrow (it's midnight here, by the way )

 

[alphanumeric]

Have exact one like that, worked good until it died on me. Anyway, it all could be a moot point if that drive is no good. So it should be checked first, preferably on a laptop with IDE so nothing has to be bought before hand and make things even more complicated.
Got to whach another thing, SATA is part of IDE standard (Serial ATA) the other one is PATA (Parallel ATA), that's the one with wider data cable and 40 pins.
Alpha, I was just writing this post when yours got updated (darn this lag). Yes that's a bit different wiring but that adapter takes that into account. Uuuups there comes another massage.

True, enough. Most people know right away what your referring to when you say IDE. Mention PATA though? Not so much. Just about everybody know what SATA is. It can get very confusing though, that's for sure.

Throw in there old standards like MFM and BFI with 2 cables (before IDE) and a dozen of other SCASI standards and you do get a mess. To say nothing about optical HDD connections.

I can remember messing with those old hard drives. A data cable and a control cable. The good old days when the motherboard had onboard nothing. A big old keyboard connector and a row of ISA slots, lol.