Solved Got my Nokia Lumia 920 Windows 8 phone last night...

Hi there
Glad you like it
I was considering a Windows phone - but at the time I got my Galaxy IIIs the Windows 8 phones weren't out yet - and I didn't really like the older Windows phones based on W7.

Not only had the OS not matured enough some of the handsets looked pretty dreadful compared with what was on offer when I got my Samsung.

However I do need a SECOND phone. I have - my main one and I need another one I need when travelling and will use a Local "Pay as you Go" SIMCARD so I'll probably opt of one of the new Windows phones for my second phone --have heard a lot of good things about them --I don't think they'll be the dismal flop others predict -- but the PHONES themselves must also look good -- NOKIA seems FINALLY to be learning this truth as well.

Fortunately in a lot of Europe "Locked phones" are illegal so even if you DO take a contract you can always put another SIM in it and contracts can be for as short as 30 days. Most of the EU stuff coming from the commission is total Bol---ks but they seem to have got it right on mobile phones.

I'm surprised that in the US nearly all the phones are "Locked" --- Bang goes my chance of a cheap phone when I'm next in the USA. :mad:


Cheers
jimbo

It's illegal in the EU to have locked phones? Bullocks right now! I'm starting to think the EU is more consumer conscious then here in the US where the average consumer gets gypped before finishing breakfast....

:rolleyes:

Samsung has a Windows Phone 8 handset that is basically the GSIII with the required Windows Phone touch buttons. The Lumia 920 is BY FAR the best Windows Phone in the world. The Lumia 820 is a good cost effective handset, removable battery and microSD card storage, along with interchangeable shells with different colors and one has a wireless charging circuit in it.



Hi there
please BEFORE POSTING PLEASE ENGAGE BRAIN a bit AND READ what the poster has said.

I said it's illegal in MOST of the EU -- Not ALL of it to lock phones.

You are implying that this statement is incorrect.


your words : It's illegal in the EU to have locked phones? Bullocks right now!

Chapter and verse please for this -- or just tell me which Telecomm provider in one of these countries issued you with a Locked phone.

D, NL, BE for starters don't lock phones -- as for Poland don't even start me on what's available there as anything goes.
Germany itself (D) is by far the largest economy and population size in the EU so by any decent measure at all the statistic is correct.

Cheers
jimbo
Oh, my bad, I mean by that is I find it preposterous that in the EU, it is actually illegal have to locked phones, as this is surprising to me. But you didn't read the rest of what my words said...

"I'm starting to think the EU is more consumer conscious then here in the US where the average consumer gets gypped before finishing breakfast...."

As in, in the US, we're strapped down to locked down contracts and can't carry over a phone from Verizon to Sprint EVEN though they are both CDMA devices, or we can't easily take over a phone from att to T-Mobile or vice versa EVEN though they are both GSM. Handsets here are carrier locked and therefore certain carriers can charge rates that are absurd for phone and data service.

I'm just really more upset at that than anything as over where you're at, there are better consumer protections than here in the US, where no one really pays attention to the fact that they're being exploited, specifically by wireless carriers. Bullocks right now!
 

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I noticed you didn't give details how to save that much money.

Hi there, LADYPINKtomato1. Did Cokie answer your question sufficiently? The only thing I can add is that some of my non-techie friends have basic flip or slide phones without data capabilities that are prepaying $40 to $50 a month. These are locked phones that will only work on that carrier's particular network. Of course this techie one and my daughter has to have the best technical smart phone. :D

One of the problems here is that phones are locked. The other is that carriers demand you buy a data plan if you purchase a smart phone that has data capabilities. Why should I have to if I have WiFi at home or live in an area that has WiFi on just about every corner? The only time I really use their data is when I use the phone for navigation, which is not often enough to justify the data plan cost. I can purchase another separate unit for that.

I am paying Vz $163.00 a month on average for two Droid X2s on a family plan (one for my daughter) with two data plans, unlimited text (of which I got that grandfathered in for that wasn't included under the new contract), and 700 shared minutes. Taxes and insurance are included. I must needs get rid of contracts for sure!

Overall, I think Americans have been blinded to the rip-off carriers have pulled over their heads. I, for one, was one of them. Not no more!
This is true!

Walmart is apparently testing out their prepaid plan with the iphone 5. It's a 650 dollar upfront purchase and other prepaid carriers that sell the iphone have difficulties because people don't see the long term savings. They see 600 dollars for a prepaid phone and revert over to a locked carrier for a 50 dollar phone, with an 80 dollar monthly bill. If they saved those 80 dollars a month for less than a year, they would be able to buy said phone. Or even just save 100 monthly for six months...

Which is the whole problem I see with smartphones on prepaid plans. Up until recently, the average American wasn't saving as much versus, for example, Europeans. If you don't have much money saved up for something like that, you're not likely to buy a smartphone out of a contract. But for the rest US that realizes this, more wireless spectrum for really low prices! :D
 

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It's illegal in the EU to have locked phones? Bullocks right now! I'm starting to think the EU is more consumer conscious then here in the US where the average consumer gets gypped before finishing breakfast....

:rolleyes:

Samsung has a Windows Phone 8 handset that is basically the GSIII with the required Windows Phone touch buttons. The Lumia 920 is BY FAR the best Windows Phone in the world. The Lumia 820 is a good cost effective handset, removable battery and microSD card storage, along with interchangeable shells with different colors and one has a wireless charging circuit in it.



Hi there
please BEFORE POSTING PLEASE ENGAGE BRAIN a bit AND READ what the poster has said.

I said it's illegal in MOST of the EU -- Not ALL of it to lock phones.

You are implying that this statement is incorrect.


your words : It's illegal in the EU to have locked phones? Bullocks right now!

Chapter and verse please for this -- or just tell me which Telecomm provider in one of these countries issued you with a Locked phone.

D, NL, BE for starters don't lock phones -- as for Poland don't even start me on what's available there as anything goes.
Germany itself (D) is by far the largest economy and population size in the EU so by any decent measure at all the statistic is correct.

Cheers
jimbo
Oh, my bad, I mean by that is I find it preposterous that in the EU, it is actually illegal have to locked phones, as this is surprising to me. But you didn't read the rest of what my words said...

"I'm starting to think the EU is more consumer conscious then here in the US where the average consumer gets gypped before finishing breakfast...."

As in, in the US, we're strapped down to locked down contracts and can't carry over a phone from Verizon to Sprint EVEN though they are both CDMA devices, or we can't easily take over a phone from att to T-Mobile or vice versa EVEN though they are both GSM. Handsets here are carrier locked and therefore certain carriers can charge rates that are absurd for phone and data service.

I'm just really more upset at that than anything as over where you're at, there are better consumer protections than here in the US, where no one really pays attention to the fact that they're being exploited, specifically by wireless carriers. Bullocks right now!

Indonesia is very free.
You got the phone and SIM Card (R-UIM Card for CDMA) then you're ready to go!
No such thing as contracts in Mobile phone usage, although there are phones that are locked, usually BlackBerry.
Once the phone unlocked, you can use it on any network/carrier you want.
 

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Darn it! My dad, my Sister, and Me bought my mom a Lumia 800 on NOVEMBER.
Why did Indonesia takes so long to get WP8 phones here?
 

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My phone is working great an no more "bugs" since the Portico OTA update a few weeks ago.
 

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My phone is working great an no more "bugs" since the Portico OTA update a few weeks ago.

What issue does the Update resolves?
Also, since Windows Phone 8 and Windows RT share kernels with Windows 8, I'm curious what did C: contains in WP8.
 

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I kind of was waiting to use this one. I took a screenshot a while ago of an app that was installing and happen to catch it's technical directory. This is Windows.
 

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I had rapid battery discharge" issues, heating up, dropping bluetooth connections and problems playing videos. After the Portico OTA update, none of these issues have returned!
 

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I received my Windows Phone Insider email today. It had a buy-one-get-one-free at&t promo in it, but doesn't show up online which is odd.

Nokia Lumia 920 - Matte Black cell phone from AT&T

I chatted with an online rep about prepay plans. I would still be paying the same amount as I am now with Vz all because of the dad burn data plans. :(
 

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