... tried every build of Windows 10 typically available.
Liked much of it, but the drive to go full desktop mode only is a deal breaker.
Like someone said, the start screen has been neutered in Windows 10
and is apparently not available in build 10041.
It is clear that many Windows 10 users have already chosen to go with the Classic Shell or any other type of 3rd party start menu. Desktop icons are apparently popular again.
A deal breaker for me was that oblytile no longer works properly in 10041.
... don't see the point to revert to an earlier build of 10 since it is only temporary.
The start menu in 10 still has issues. Expanding to full screen moves all the tiles.
What was on the left side of the screen is now on the top or right side of the screen.
If Microsoft wants to go all desktop with Windows 10 technologies, a.k.a. new "code" and secure functionality, why not just implement a traditional Windows 7 style start menu for the desktop and offer a choice to go with 8.1 metro interface - tablet mode.
(probably most have issues with the 8.0 style)
In 10, Where is the metro IE? It works beautifully in 8 / 8.1 ! Is Spartan going to be a Maxthon clone or will it be another desktop only browser?
Will there be a metro Spartan?
The desktop only is fine if that is what you like, fine for business, fine for work, fine for productivity and fine for everything else.
Personally, I find Windows 8.0 to be a gem. It does so much that 8.1 cannot do.
Others would disagree and say 8.1 fixes what 8.0 was.
Still other believers think Windows 7 is a gem and the perfect OS.
That's ok by me.
The customization options in Windows 7 are awesome
and it is a total Microsoft fail to have removed them from the Win32 explorer shells of 8 / 8.1 and 10.
Why did they mess up the XP and Vista start menus with the Windows 7 box?
Why not offer options like "click here" for XP style, "click here" for Vista style, "click here" for Windows 7 style start menus.
The Windows 10 mix of live tiles transparency or no transparency, it doesn't matter, linked to a desktop menu is nonsense. How does anyone profit from a live tile that can only be seen if the start menu is running? (and it runs on top of the desktop) - whether transparent or not, it will still cover the desktop and must be clicked to go away so that the desktop can be used.
So toolbars return as another option because the 10 menu (as seen by many) is not an efficient and useful tool.
Purely for UI comfort, tiles that were squishy - soft - when pressed with a mouse pointer was a friendly gesture.
Now, in build 10041, tiles are as hard as stone and probably intended for a touch UI anyway.
From what I have read about the Surface Pro 3,
much of Windows 10 is designed to be used on the Surface Pro 3 or whatever the next model is.
For this user that exists in a microscopic minority, Windows 8.0 is the perfect blend of metro and desktop. ... having no need for viewing the desktop on the start screen / apps view background, (which can happen with 3rd party stuff), ... having no need for Close X buttons or options in the Win X menu to shut off etc..., having no need for metro apps to run in a desktop Window (also available with 3rd party),
the Windows 8.0 UI works in a way that Windows 7, 8.1, and Windows 10 cannot.
I thought, geez, the Windows 7 UI is awesome, but where are my thumbnailed full screen only metro apps?
Where are my huge soft pressed customized 3D tiles?
I could name 27 full screen metro apps that I love and use, but who cares!
With a personal preference for build 9200, edge UI thumbnails that can be dragged out in the same manner as a touch swipe, full screen only scenarios that eliminate the need to move, minimize or resize desktop windows, tiles that can be made huge and easy to read that flex when pressed, file location changes to tiles that are applied immediately, everything installed is automatically pinned (easily unpinned), ... having no need for tile groups, ... having no need for a start button and enjoying the appearance of the desktop as a large live tiled thumbnail (not the pinned tile) etc ... of course it has been said before that the opposite view on all of this exists with desktoppers and 8.1 users.
There is also opposition to 8.0 by 8.1 people but not as strong as the opposition by 7, XP, Apple and Linux types.
Windows 10 works fine if you like it (unless one has technical issues).
Windows 10? What happened to the resizable menu or the start screen?
Since there is no possibility that the Windows 8.0 UI will ever return, I plan to make all kinds of system images and thumb drive iso backups so that the Operating System will remain saved for future use for as long as possible. For this user, Microsoft support is not needed. Out of the Box use works fine. Disabling updates in group policy is about as controversial as the elimination of the unneeded pagefile. Haven't used a pagefile for 15 years. My system has received no updates for years and scans out as clean and healthy using various tools and is protected by programs that are far more aggressive than what is supplied by Microsoft.
The system does not need the net to function.
The Operating System can function as a multimedia center only.
For normal network (internet) use by this user only,
regular clean installations onto wiped unallocated space is standard practice as a housekeeping chore.
There are any number of tools to keep a system healthy and safe without the need for endless unwanted updates.
... got out my original 8.0 pro that cost 15 bucks (US dollars),
entered the key on a clean install into unallocated space,
and goodbye Windows 10.
- server 2012
- Computer type
- System Manufacturer/Model
- self assembled
- Graphics Card(s)
- intel onboard
- Sound Card
- hdmi tv to external sound system
- Monitor(s) Displays
- Hard Drives
- Addonics Quad mSATA PCIe SSD - various SSD