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Vince53

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Before I post this on an XP forum, I might need to run a reality check. To someone running XP, what does 7 have that he doesn't have?

1) gadgets--although he can get similar ones
2) Windows 7 themes
3) libraries
4) Aero--which his computer probably can't handle anyway.

If he installs the 8 Preview and sticks with the classic desktop, he gets all this. He can download free apps for everything else.

Am I hallucinating?
 

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windude99

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The only thing that I've seen that doesn't work for me is Office 2010. I tried to install the 60 Day trial and the installer quit.
 

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Phone Man

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I have Office 2010 Standard installed and working fine.

Jim :cool:
 

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thatmanbrian

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Over all the forums, I've not heard of much in the way of compatibility issues with Win 8. Often a glitch just needs a bit of thought or a post on a forum and all is well. I can't think of any underlying reason why Office would'nt install for sure. What error did you get windude99?
 

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Coke Robot

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App compatibility is right back to how it was with Windows 7, literally anything from 7 works in the Consumer Preview. In the Developer Preview, some didn't always work. Windows 8 is still a work in progress. Microsoft has furthered development and we'll see that come May-Junish with the Release Candidate. Until then, that's how the cookie crumbles.
 

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Jav

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App compatibility is right back to how it was with Windows 7, literally anything from 7 works in the Consumer Preview. In the Developer Preview, some didn't always work. Windows 8 is still a work in progress. Microsoft has furthered development and we'll see that come May-Junish with the Release Candidate. Until then, that's how the cookie crumbles.

I dare you to install Macrium reflect free in Windows 8 CP ;)

P.S. Please don't, I am just kidding. It will just send you into BSOD loop. (unless they have already fixed it, have reported it the day CP has came out. But as far as I can see on the Internet it sill has not been fixed).
What I am trying to say is: "anything from 7 works in the Consumer Preview" is a wrong assumption. It is still a beta product, so one should treat it accordingly.

"if an XP user switched to the free 8 Preview version and then stayed with the classic desktop, would he effectively have a free copy of Win 7?"
Yes, and the right to be a Guinea pig.

I am just saying, that you should not assume that it will be as stable as Windows 7. And if you have something to lose (like productivity), just be prepared that you may have to spend some time troubleshooting.
 

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Phone Man

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I dare you to install Macrium reflect free in Windows 8 CP ;)

P.S. Please don't, I am just kidding. It will just send you into BSOD loop. (unless they have already fixed it, have reported it the day CP has came out. But as far as I can see on the Internet it sill has not been fixed).

I am just saying, that you should not assume that it will be as stable as Windows 7. And if you have something to lose (like productivity), just be prepared that you may have to spend some time troubleshooting.

I am running Macrium Reflect Free just fine. About a week ago I used it to restore my Windows 8 partition when another program (which worked fine on Windows 7) crashed my system. Just got a new update to 5354.

I agree with your statement that you can't bet on Windows 8 being stable with everything you install.

Jim :cool:
 

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Vince53

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Yes, if you install the Windows 8 Preview version, you will effectively have a free copy of Windows 7 if you stick with the classic desktop. Sort of. This is true in the sense that you will have the libraries (which I really like), the ability to install Windows 7 gadgets and themes, and a more powerful system than 7. Unfortunately, it will expire on January 15, 2013.

So far, almost everything that runs well on 7 runs well on the 8 Preview, but there are a few problems. If you are using XP and want to try out the Win 8 Preview, I strongly advise you to partition your hard drive or use a virtual machine. Also, a machine designed from the ground up for XP might not be powerful enough to run 7 or 8 too well.
 

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thatmanbrian

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I have been running Win 8 CP as my main OS (I can afford to take the risk) with just two crashes (both hangs) from which it recovered fine on a forced reboot. (No Windows closed unexpectedly message or safe mode asked for). I'm also running betas of two major applications from Adobe with no probs.

I have dual monitors and was surprised to find Win 8 can put the task bar on both screens if required. This is handy as my main screen has my heavily customised Start screen for instant access, and my secondary screen has the task bar. Best of both worlds.
 

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jimbo45

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W8CP also has compatibility issues with some programmes. I wouldn't use it as my main OS.

??? as well -- I haven't found ANYTHING that it can't run which worked on W7

And I've got some strange apps that normal users wouldn't usually have such as SAPGUI connecting to large SAP systems etc.

I do have one or two programs that I still need XP for -- old legacy EXPENSIVE hardware such as Plotter, Glass cutting machine etc, but these run just fine on an XP VM using vmware on W8.

In fact on one of my laptops (Sony VAIO) W8 even managed to get the built in DUAL card reader to work for both slots --SD and Sony Sticks -- on W7 I could only get the SD half to work.

As for Macrium Free -- can't say but ACRONIS works --and in any case if you want Free backup on W8 try the built in Recovery version

follow the threads in this post

http://www.eightforums.com/installa...ng-your-own-data-etc-no-need-acronis-etc.html


BTW even on the Windows to Go I managed to get some large apps like PHOTOSHOP CS5.5 to work without any fuss whatsoever.


To JAV : I was at "The Bridge" on Sat Lunchtime -- Chelsea were very very lucky -- I reeckon Tottenham could have won that game by about 3 clear goals - especially in the 2nd half. Still Good luck for Tue night in CL v Benfica.


Cheers
jimbo
 

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Jav

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I am running Macrium Reflect Free just fine. About a week ago I used it to restore my Windows 8 partition when another program (which worked fine on Windows 7) crashed my system. Just got a new update to 5354.

I agree with your statement that you can't bet on Windows 8 being stable with everything you install.

Jim :cool:

I guess they have fixed it, which is very nice.
I received almost immediate response (within an hour) saying that they were looking into it and now you are reporting that you have been using it for a some time, means that they were really quick to fix bug in offcialy non-supported OS. :thumb:

I have been running Win 8 CP as my main OS (I can afford to take the risk) with just two crashes (both hangs) from which it recovered fine on a forced reboot. (No Windows closed unexpectedly message or safe mode asked for). I'm also running betas of two major applications from Adobe with no probs.


W8CP also has compatibility issues with some programmes. I wouldn't use it as my main OS.

??? as well -- I haven't found ANYTHING that it can't run which worked on W7

And I've got some strange apps that normal users wouldn't usually have such as SAPGUI connecting to large SAP systems etc.

I do have one or two programs that I still need XP for -- old legacy EXPENSIVE hardware such as Plotter, Glass cutting machine etc, but these run just fine on an XP VM using vmware on W8.

In fact on one of my laptops (Sony VAIO) W8 even managed to get the built in DUAL card reader to work for both slots --SD and Sony Sticks -- on W7 I could only get the SD half to work.

Don't get me wrong.
I am not saying that it is unstable, crashes all the time and will destroy your computer while eating your souls.

I like it and I love it as much you guys do.

The thing is claiming it is very stable is just inaccurate.
If person is asking whether they should use it, (which OP probably didn't ask, and I am just saying something I have been thinking for a some time already) they are not ready to use beta product as their main OS.

I am same as you guys. I am a geek, I tweak a lot and I use beta as my main OS. I can troubleshoot and fix a lot of things myself, but I am just getting bored of doing it. Windows 8 is just not stable for me and therefore I am just showing other side of life in Windows 8 for people who are wondering whether they should switch to it or not.

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Apparently not everyone has the same system and use it the same way.
Btw, most of them are flash crashes, so it is not as bad as it looks. But it is still very annoying. I tweak a lot because I like things to work the way I want, I could easily do it with Windows 7, with Windows 8 it is freaking annoying... :mad:

Even the metro apps are unstable. Just try configuring AppLocker and turn on Application Identity service. Restart and half of the Metro apps will break. It doesn't matter how you configure it, eventhough Event log will show you that it was allowed to run, it will just freeze for 10 sec and then crash. (Believe me, I DO know how to use AppLcoker)
I think, it is not even AppLocker, but merely turning on Application Identity service will create instability.

And then this Windows Defender: since the first version of MSE we have reported it so many times that it is very buggy when opening folders with many files for the first time, but it still hasn't been fixed.

I am just tired and I am not professional, I am just a hobbyist. I guess I will go back to my super fine tuned Windows 7.
And I am not sure when I will come back, maybe week off and I will start dual-booting again or maybe RTM.

Anyway thank you guys.
And sorry for this rant, I just need to get this off my heart...


To JAV : I was at "The Bridge" on Sat Lunchtime -- Chelsea were very very lucky -- I reeckon Tottenham could have won that game by about 3 clear goals - especially in the 2nd half. Still Good luck for Tue night in CL v Benfica.


Cheers
jimbo

I know.. The whole season was really bad :(

But hopefully Champions League!
Anyway, Thank you! :thumbsup:
 

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GMan

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Jav

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To fix Flash from crashing, clear the LSOs:

AdobeClearFlash

Thank you.
If it was this easy.. I already tried it.

The thing is my system is configured in a very unusual way and culprit it either chrome's sandbox, flash, my gpu, integrity levels (sometimes flash wants to tun under medium integrity of rundle32, instead of chrome's low integrity sub-process. I tried to find why, but got distracted with something), the fact that I have system-wide chrome (program files, though it should not matter), EMET or the combination of it all...
 

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